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I really hope Girl Meets World doesn't fall into this trap. I have such high hopes for its success.
The main reason I don't watch/like Disney & Nick shows are because of the little teeny boppers screaming and screeching all the time...it's like nails on a chalkboard. |
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And for the record, while I wouldn't call them the greatest in the world by any means, I still like most Disney Channel sitcoms better than any show on network television now... I get what most of this article is saying and there are certainly some valid points- and there are some Disney shows that I've gotten rather annoyed with because of the values and things they portray. I think I've probably seen at least a little of all the shows mentioned here. By far, my favorite Disney Channel sitcom right now is Austin & Ally- and I also still love The Suite Life on Deck. (Which is one case where I really much prefer the spinoff show over the parent show, The Suite Life of Zack & Cody.) That formula for a Disney show is pretty accurate though. (Though I do think some of the theme songs are actually pretty good.) I've noticed a lot of the shows rely on scatological humor- and some in more abundance than others. And hey- I can enjoy a joke in good taste- yeah, poop is still funny. But though I'm okay with such jokes- it does get tired after a while. My more major concern is the way the parents are depicted. I get really tired of seeing parents that are treated like idiots (and that act like idiots), who get almost zero respect from their children- and in the case of Good Luck, Charlie- parents who encourage their children in wrongdoing. There are some horrible examples on that show and on others.... On all these counts, Austin & Ally and The Suite Life on Deck seem to be the least offensive (though I'm not saying that they're without their faults too.) |
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All of the shows since Hanna Montana on the Disney Channel have been produced by the same person (Steve Gunnell), so that explains why all of the shows follow the same format.
Same thing with Nickelodeon and Dan Schneider (since All That). Can't blame either channel/producer though. Regardless of how crappy it is, there's no sense in messing with a formula that's financially successful. |
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Disney up until say, the early 2000s (although it can be argued that Disney Channel "jumped the shark"/"boned the fish" when it stopped being a premium service around 1997) seemed to actually put much more creativity or effort in their live-action shows. Phil of the Future seems to be the last DC produced live-action show (I'm not counting Canadian imports like Life w/ Derek or My Babysitter is a Vampire) to not fall under the It's a Laugh Productions! umbrella. |
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Basically it all boils down to what you prefer. Opinions are wonderful things! |
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Saved By The Bell and Miller-Boyett shows (and/or TGIF shows, etc.)- are WAY better to me than most everything on TV now in general- including Disney sitcoms. I've already stated the few that I do like pretty well- but yeah, I agree with tlc38tlc38 about this.
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What really didn't help so to speak, was like the It's a Laugh...! sitcoms on Disney Channel or Dan Schneider's shows on Nickelodeon, is that they were for all intent and purposes, the standard bearers (in part because that's what there respective networks have been mostly promoting/pushing) for live-action kids/teen TV of their respective eras. I posted something from a message board in a previous discussion regarding Miller-Boyett's shows, which to me is pretty well on point. By the time Full House rolled around (when compared to say the first season of The Hogan Family before the show brouhaha Valerie Harper's exit and Perfect Strangers), you can make the argument that MB really sacrificed striving to make a truly quality type product in favor of having to impart their skewed view of wisdom (in not only Full House but subsequently, Family Matters, which was basically MB's version of The Cosby Show and Step by Step which used the Full House formula w/ an updated version of The Brady Bunch). What I've also noticed is that MB seems to like to use over-the-top stereotypes in their shows. For example, Cody on Step by Step is a goofy surfer/stoner stereotype. Steve Urkel from Family Matters is of course the cartoonish nerd stereotype. |
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There's room for similar ideas on the market. And particularly in the television market, networks do that all the time. I think there are enough key differences between the TNBC shows to differentiate them- and in any case, I like all of them. (Saved By The Bell, California Dreams, Hang Time, City Guys and Saved By The Bell: The New Class- as well as some others from that time period. SBTB:TNC has its own charm I think- of course, I'm just a SBTB fan in general and I like all of it- and I have seen every episode of every series...)
I don't know if I agree with all the observations on the Miller-Boyett shows, but they are good observations to consider. In any case, I still like all those shows -Full House, Valerie/Valerie's Family/The Hogan Family, Perfect Strangers, Family Matters, Step By Step and The Cosby Show and The Brady Bunch, for that matter.) (And a number of the Disney Channel sitcoms too- but not all of them. Mainly "Austin & Ally" and "The Suite Life on Deck"- and "Lizzie McGuire" and "Even Stevens" are good too. I might watch some others while I have access to them, but I don't like them enough to actually want to own the series on DVD or anything. For the Nickelodeon shows, I do like some of Dan Schneider's series- maybe because I still remember enjoying his work as Dennis Blunden on "Head of the Class". But I particularly enjoy "iCarly" and "Victorious". I'm not as big into "Sam & Cat"- I mainly specifically watched one episode for the Laverne & Shirley reunion (Penny Marshall & Cindy Williams in original roles, that is- they weren't actually in character as Laverne and Shirley).)
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Not sure what impact that will have on the quality of the series, assuming Michael Jacobs is still involved in its production. |
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if y our missing boy meets world or the wonder years I highly recommend the middle it come on Monday thur Fridays at 5:00 pm and 6:00 pm abc family and every day at 7:00 pm on cw I also recommend the big bang theory is good too. it come on mostly Tuesdays at 7:00pm &8:00 pm on tbs 7:30 pm on fox
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http://thetwin-factor.blogspot.com/2...use-house.html
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I sooooo hope the people from The "Disney" Channel wake-up with shows like "Girl Meets World" and the new Mickey Mouse Cartoons (I wish they'd have some Donald Duck stand-alone cartoons...he's MORE funnier)!
There's sooooo much you can do with the teen comedy! If I ran The "Disney" Channels, here's how it would be... Disney Channel-Mickey Mouse is the spokesperson, the majority of shows will be aimed toward teenage girls, but have some things that have REAL Disney stuff on it! Disney XD-Donald Duck is the spokesperson, the majority of the shows will be aimed for males between 13 and 49 (Many shows will be by Marvel and Star Wars, but I thought of having shows featuring Donald Duck called "Duck Avenger" and "Double D", which are popular in Europe)! Disney Junior-Winnie the Pooh is the spokesperson, the majority of the shows will be aimed for pre-schoolers like Sprout or Nick Jr. Vault Disney Channel-This would be a new station and Oswald is the spokesperson, it will be Disney's version of Antenna TV and MeTV. There will be shows featuring Walt Disney, Disney Afternoon Shows, and sitcoms that are Disney/Touchstone owned. ABC Family-Will be revamped as a Family Station with ABC shows, Disney Movie Night, some original shows, and some cartoons that were once on ABC! ESPN-These stations are doing okay as is, but MNF would be seen on BOTH ESPN AND ABC! |
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I'm guessing that Disney keeps pushing these types of shows (i.e. having It's a Laugh! Productions pretty much have exclusive rights to their live-action content) because they're cheap and fast to produce. More to the point, Disney seems to think that they have a formula of sorts that works (thus, there's a low-risk value).
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I always wonted Disney channel they showed classic cartoon I remember when I was in elementary school & toward being of middle school I wish I would have gotten Disney back then you had to add hbo and all the other premier channels we did have an cable sever that showed Disney hbo and show time for free pre views for couple months or few weeks in special preview my aunt galay had Disney channel she would tape Disney channel cartoons and sent them to me and my brother cartoons and Disney movies for us and give it too us now that I got Disney im 33 right now I been watching girl meets worlds still not as good as boy meets world I usual don't watch any other Disney shows I do some time like suite life on deck is pretty good most of them are to kiddish to me but back in the day I wish I would have Disney channel did you know they had winne the pooh with real people dressed up as winey the pooh characters it was fake looking I remember watching it as a kid. that was on Disney channel a the time my aunt taped it for me and my brother.
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