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Old 08-28-2006, 11:10 AM   #91
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Michael Tracey's documentary recently shown on CourtTV clearly shows evidence overlooked by the Boulder Police Department and The Boulder County Sheriff's Office. The evidence includes. . .

One pair of Hi-Tec hiking boots
One Tazer weapon, this was one of at least five owned by one of the killers, MICHAEL HELGOTH.
Michael Helgoth who has a direct line to the Ramsey family.
Michael Helgoth WROTE the ransom note!
Michael Helgoth owned a pair of Victory pants. Victory!
Michael Helgoth owned a shirt with S.B.T.C. on it.
S.anta B.arbara T.ennis C.lub is what S.B.T.C. means.
Michael Helgoth DREW Draft Quality drawings of SEVERAL floors of the Ramsey home and the drawings MATCHED EXACTLY!
The partner and roommate of Michael Helgoth attempted to rape JonBenet Ramsey and he MURDERED HER! The Boulder County Sheriff's Office pursed him through THREE STATES only to lose him in the town of SILVERBIRD, UTAH.
He had a job waiting for him, but he lost that job when he was caught STEALING FROM THE RESORT'S GUESTS! THE SAME THING HE WAS DOING IN
BOULDER, COLORADO.
This man also MURDERED MICHAEL HELGOTH! A MURDER THAT TO THIS DAY IS STILL CONSIDERED A SUICIDE! TRAVEL VOUCHERS, EXPENSE VOUCHERS, AND 97 INTER-OFFICE MEMEOS WITH 97 DIFFERENT SHERIFF OFFICES TELL ME THEY WERE LOOKING FOR AND THEN LOST JONBENET'S KILLER, A SECOND TIME!
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KUSA out of Denver is reporting that Karr's DNA does NOT match the DNA found at the scene.
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KUSA out of Denver is reporting that Karr's DNA does NOT match the DNA found at the scene.
What a shock. I also heard there will be no charges filed.

As I indicated in a previous post, perhaps this will be a down the road benefit since we've never had a high profile false confession until now.

Defense counsel who argue that point on behalf of their client will be using this example for decades, guaranteed.
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Old 08-28-2006, 07:25 PM   #94
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KUSA out of Denver is reporting that Karr's DNA does NOT match the DNA found at the scene.
That's not suprising to me. As much as I wanted to believe that Jon-Benet Ramsey's murder was coming close to being solved, I felt that I had to reserve judgment until there were further developments.
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CNN is reporting that Karr's DNA did not match and that charges will not be filed against him.

Interesting twist of events. He's not a murderer, he's just obsessed with JonBenet... that's so messed up.
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Well, Karr isn't exactly out of the woods yet. Reportedly, they will send him back to California so that he can answer to those child porn charges.

Here's another reason I don't think Patsy did it. JonBenet, as most of us are aware, was a beauty queen. However, what some people might not know was that Patsy herself was a beauty queen too, winning Miss West Virginia in 1977 or thereabouts. For Patsy, JonBenet was a chance to relive her childhood. I'm sure Patsy really enjoyed entering JonBenet in the pageants and such. If Pasty were to have killed JonBenet, it would be almost like killing herself.
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The authorities spent so much time focusing on the parents that they let the sleazey culprit get away. Patsy did not kill that child - should she have accidently have harmed her or in a rage harmed her - she would have made her peace with God and her family prior to her death.

Cancer patients have a lot of anger and they usually resolve that anger before the end comes, unless they are taken unexpectantly. There are those who take their secrets to their grave to spare their families - I simply just do not believe she did that...she loved her children.

I can say without a doubt that Patsy did NOT kill JonBenet. If she did, the last thing she would have done would have been to tell the truth for the sake of her husband and other children, so that they would be able to go on with their lives and not have someone doubting them. She would have set them free.
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There's no doubt in my mind that it was an intruder who did this. They were unable to prove that the Ramseys did it and all the evidence points to an intruder.
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As I indicated in a previous post, perhaps this will be a down the road benefit since we've never had a high profile false confession until now.

Defense counsel who argue that point on behalf of their client will be using this example for decades, guaranteed.
This should help the false confession. I forget the guy but Unsolved Mysteries profiled it with the cop getting the confession out of him. The cop emptied his gun and layed the bullets down one by one, the guy's confession didn't match the facts.

That will be a benefit down the road, confessions are going to be looked at even more now.

Hopefully just like the Martha Moxley case, the killer is ultimately brought to justice.
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This should help the false confession. I forget the guy but Unsolved Mysteries profiled it with the cop getting the confession out of him. The cop emptied his gun and layed the bullets down one by one, the guy's confession didn't match the facts.

That will be a benefit down the road, confessions are going to be looked at even more now.

Hopefully just like the Martha Moxley case, the killer is ultimately brought to justice.
The one difference, of course, is the false confessions are often coerced, which this one was not. But even a voluntary and bizarre false confession like this one will help since lawyers can refer to it by name and people will have a reference point.

In the past you've had hundreds of false confessions in high profile cases like the Lindbergh kidnapping, yet when you watch the jurists after a case many of them will say things like, "why would someone falsely confess?" At least this John Karr story puts it out there as not impossible at all.
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Overlooked Clues
Stolen light blue van found parked AGAINST the traffic on the SIDEWALK!
Stolen license plates on van, stolen from another van.
TWO DIFFERENT SET OF FOOT PRINTS FOUND IN RAMSEY YARD!
ONE SET HI-TEC HIKING BOOTS, SECOND SET MOTORCYCLE BOOTS.
KILLER OF JONBENET RAMSEY SEEN 5:30 P.M. "KNITTING" HE WAS TYING ROPE TOGETHER TO FORM A NET. THIS NET WAS LATER FOUND ON THE ARMS OF JONBENET RAMSEY
CORONER REPORT MENTIONS THE NET AND THE FACT IT WAS TIED BY A LEFT HANDED MAN.
MICHAEL HELGOTH WRITES RANSOM NOTE, THIS CAN BE PROVEN, HE LEFT BEHIND AMPLE AMOUNTS OF HIS HANDWRITING BEHIND.
STOLEN VAN CONTAINS SHORT PIECES OF ROPE.
PARTIAL COIL OF ROPE MATCHES ROPE USED ON JONBENET
ROLL OF DUCT TAPE TESTED AND MATCHED BY FBI IS SAME TAPE FOUND ON JONBENET.
RANSOM NOTE HAS S.B.T.C. ON IT. A WITNESS WAS QUESTIONED IN THIS CASE HE REMEMBERS GIVING SHIRT TO MICHAEL HELGOTH. MICHAEL HELGOTH ALSO OWNED VICTORY PANTS, THEY ARE MADE IN BRITAIN. bOTH THE SHIRT AND THE PANTS WERE FOUND IN THE VAN. BOULDER POLICE OFFICER FINDS THE VAN AND THE EVIDENCE AND TRIES TO REPORT IT, HE IS IGNORED.
S.B.T.C. MEANS S.ANTA B.ARBARA T.ENNIS C.LUB
MAN WHO GAVE THE SHIRT TO MICHAEL GOT IT FROM A MEMBER OF THIS CLUB.
MICHAEL HELGOTH TOOK DRAFTING IN HIGH SCHOOL, HE OWNS A DRAWING PAD THAT HAS SEVERAL DRAWINGS IN IT FROM FLOOR PLANS TO STAIR WELLS. THEY MATCH THREE LEVELS OF THE RAMSEY HOME, EXACTLY!
MICHAEL HELGOTH HAS A DIRECT CONNECTION TO THE RAMSEY FAMILY. HE WORKS AS A DECKHAND FOR THE CAPTAIN OF THE SAILBOAT JOHN RAMSEY RENTS FOR A HARMLESS FAMILY OUTING FOR SON BURKE, IT IS HIS TURN TO CHOOSE AND HE CHOOSES TO GO SAILING. SUMMER OF 1996.
MICHAEL HELGOTH IS SEEN BY PEOPLE IN THE SLIP OPPOSITE THIS SAILBOAT GETTING A LITTLE TOO FAMILIAR WITH JONBENET RAMSEY.
GETTING THE YOUNGEST CHILDREN TO CONFIDE IN HIM IS HOW HE "CASES" THE HOMES OF SOME OF BOULDER'S WEALTHEST FAMILIES. THIS IS HOW AND WHO HELGOTH COULD STEAL FROM WITHOUT UNFORESEEN TROUBLE.
MAN SEEN IN VAN DESCRIBED BY WITNESS AS LOOKING LIKE A HOMELESS SANTA CLAUS, AT THAT TIME HE WAS! BOTH KILLERS WERE LIVING IN THE VAN UNTIL THE BRAKES FAILED. HOMELESS AGAIN!
SANTA CLAUS (SUSPECT 3 ACCORDING TO PROFESSOR MICHAEL TRACEY) ALSO WORKS IN THE SAME MARINA.
THE GARROTE HAS COMPLICATED KNOTS THAT ARE TIED TOGETHER INSTANLY.
JONBENET IS HEARD SCREAMING AT 10:15 P.M. BY A NEIGHBOR. SHE WAS HIT WITH TAZER WEAPON. MICHAEL HELGOTH OWNED AT LEAST FIVE OF THESE.
CRIME SCENE PHOTOGRAPHS OF MICHAEL HELGOTH "SUICIDE" SHOW HI-TEC HIKING BOOTS AND ONE OF THE TAZER WEAPONS NEXT TO HIS CORPSE.

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Default Professor Michael Tracey knows the name of the killer.

Professor Michael Tracey knows the killer of JonBenet Ramsey.

He said there was a small list of "5 possible suspects". Suspect 3 is the rapist/killer of JonBenet Ramsey. He was a known associate of the late Michael Helgoth whom he later murdered. Professor Michael Tracey knows his name! And all we have to do to get it, is simply to ask him! Michael left two pieces of his clothing in the light blue van that was stolen. Victory! was taken from the brand name of his pants. S.B.T.C. was taken from a shirt he owned. S.anta B.arbara T.ennis C.lub from Santa Barbara, California. Both were from the stolen van. Michael Helgoth WROTE the strange ransom note.
Suspect 3 is the killer of BOTH JonBenet Ramsey AND Michael Helgoth, accomplice. I see the trail of clues EVERYONE ELSE MISSED OR I SEE THE MISTAKES THEY ARE COVERING UP.

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Professor Michael Tracey knows his name! And all we have to do to get it, is simply to ask him!
This is a less complicated case than I thought
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Default Michael Tracey's Suspect Number 3 is the killer.

Boulder County D.A. Mary Lacy only has to ask the name of the person Michael Tracey mentioned as Suspect Number 3. He was noted as an accomplice of Michael Helgoth. He is the rapist/killer of JonBenet Ramsey. Both men worked at the Marina where John Ramsey rented a sailboat. The Boulder County Sheriff's Office pursued the man through three states only to lose him in Silverbird, Utah. This embarrassing mistake among others is why nobody wants to see this case looked into. Michael Helgoth wrote the ransom note and drew up the floor plans to the Ramsey home all of this told to him by a rather naive JonBenet Ramsey. The poor thing didn't know how dangerous he was.
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