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Old 01-12-2011, 03:11 PM   #151
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That's because she interrupted him mid-abduction. That's what makes it so creepy!
Eh, I'm doubting.

Are you in support of the theory that Deborah was behind the counter throughout the entire exchange between Megadeth and the customer? I've always found that to be a little on the incredible side. It's just an opinion, but I think most perpetrators interrupted in the middle of an abduction would:

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B) Eliminate the (potential) witness
C) Indicate very, very strongly through a number of behavioral cues that something was not at all right


I just don't see someone--especially someone that young--remaining calm and collected enough to maintain his composure completely during that exchange.
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If this was an interruption mid-abduction, where exactly was Deborah and why didn't she cry for help?
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Old 01-13-2011, 02:19 PM   #153
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If this was an interruption mid-abduction, where exactly was Deborah and why didn't she cry for help?
Bound and gagged in the back, obviously.

Not sure what you're trying to do here, but I subscribe to the "It was Megadeth" theory, and nothing you do is going to change my mind. You're wasting your time.
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Bound and gagged in the back, obviously.

Not sure what you're trying to do here, but I subscribe to the "It was Megadeth" theory, and nothing you do is going to change my mind. You're wasting your time.
Since there was never evidence uncovered that a struggle occurred in the store nor that anyone was ever "bound and gagged" at any point, there's really no basis to believe that it happened.

If wish to believe something because it matters to you, then that's your right. The evidence actually points in a different direction.
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Old 01-13-2011, 02:59 PM   #155
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Bound and gagged in the back, obviously.

Not sure what you're trying to do here, but I subscribe to the "It was Megadeth" theory, and nothing you do is going to change my mind. You're wasting your time.
I'm not trying to sway you one way or the other. Just asking a logical question to your theory of "Megadeth is guilty" that must be answered. Which you have chosen to ignore, BTW.
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I'm not trying to sway you one way or the other. Just asking a logical question to your theory of "Megadeth is guilty" that must be answered. Which you have chosen to ignore, BTW.
Can you not read? I did give you an answer---she was bound and gagged in the back.

People like you piss me off. You want to take all the fun out the mysteries!
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Can you not read? I did give you an answer---she was bound and gagged in the back.

People like you piss me off. You want to take all the fun out the mysteries!
Yes I am the Murky & Lurky to this board's Rainbow Brite. I'm here to take the fun out of every mystery.

As a matter of fact, I'll call the Orlando PD and tell them to consider "Megadeth" a suspect again because it'd be more fun for you.
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There is nothing "fun" about contorting a tragic event involving a real, living human being into some sort of scary campfire story.
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Oh please. Unsolved Mysteries is an entertainment program. Deal with it!
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There was no signs of a struggle anywhere inside the convenience store. If someone tried to strangle you, there would be signs of a struggle. If someone tried to stab you with a knife, there would be signs of a struggle...as well as a ton of blood everywhere. However, if someone pointed a gun at you, there is not likely to be any signs of a struggle.

Most likely, Deborah was behind the counter and her kidnappers pulled out a gun. It's 3:00 in the morning so there are not going to be many customers around. There are no surveillance cameras (stupid, stupid, stupid!). If she's got a gun pointed at her, there is nowhere for her to run and she can't fight back.

It's possible that Megadeath guy was one of the kidnappers. His accomplice could have been the one that was holding a gun to Deborah's head (either in the back room or behind the counter) to keep her quiet while Megadeath helped the customer so she wouldn't think anything was wrong. His job might have been to make sure the coast was clear so they could leave the store without anyone seeing them.

If Megadeath guy had nothing to do with the kidnapping and simply walked in to the store, found it empty and attempted to rob it, he would have taken some money. But no money was missing. Yet he went to the trouble of going behind the counter and pretending to be an employee of the store. That doesn't add up to me.

Just my thoughts. I could be way off.
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There was no signs of a struggle anywhere inside the convenience store. If someone tried to strangle you, there would be signs of a struggle. If someone tried to stab you with a knife, there would be signs of a struggle...as well as a ton of blood everywhere. However, if someone pointed a gun at you, there is not likely to be any signs of a struggle.

Most likely, Deborah was behind the counter and her kidnappers pulled out a gun. It's 3:00 in the morning so there are not going to be many customers around. There are no surveillance cameras (stupid, stupid, stupid!). If she's got a gun pointed at her, there is nowhere for her to run and she can't fight back.

It's possible that Megadeath guy was one of the kidnappers. His accomplice could have been the one that was holding a gun to Deborah's head (either in the back room or behind the counter) to keep her quiet while Megadeath helped the customer so she wouldn't think anything was wrong. His job might have been to make sure the coast was clear so they could leave the store without anyone seeing them.

If Megadeath guy had nothing to do with the kidnapping and simply walked in to the store, found it empty and attempted to rob it, he would have taken some money. But no money was missing. Yet he went to the trouble of going behind the counter and pretending to be an employee of the store. That doesn't add up to me.

Just my thoughts. I could be way off.
There's just no evidence that there were any other people in the store when "Megadeth" was in there except the customer that just came in. If there was, then by now I'm certain that the police would have found that evidence and released it to the public.

Assuming that Ms. Poe was abducted at gunpoint, it would been a very rapid affair: The abductor draws and points his weapon, gives Ms. Poe instructions and then they leave the store. The killer was unlikely to bind her in the store as there may not be the necessary equipment to do so. He may also want to avoid a struggle that he might lose or having to use his weapon.

They then leave the store (apparently before the arrival of "Megadeth") and get into a waiting vehicle. They leave at least a minute or two before "Megadeth" arrives. Why do I think it happened like this? Because Megadeth seemed (from the customers description) to be somewhat confused about the store and its layout. He definitely was unfamiliar w/ the cash register.

Also, I believe that "Megadeth" actual was somewhat honest as he didn't clean out the store after the customer he served left and apparently didn't steal any money. Perhaps he was frightened or leery about additional customers or thought that maybe the police would arrive. In this, he seems to be more of a "customer" than the perpetrator of a crime.

Finally, why (if he was a abductor/killer) would he have let the customer that saw him escape? If he had wanted, he could have kidnapped her as well or simply killed her as she was (apparently) the only witness that saw him. There certainly wasn't anything stopping him from doing this.

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There's just no evidence that there were any other people in the store when "Megadeth" was in there except the customer that just came in. If there was, then by now I'm certain that the police would have found that evidence and released it to the public.

Assuming that Ms. Poe was abducted at gunpoint, it would been a very rapid affair: The abductor draws and points his weapon, gives Ms. Poe instructions and then they leave the store. The killer was unlikely to bind her in the store as there may not be the necessary equipment to do so. He may also want to avoid a struggle that he might lose or have to use his weapon.

They then leave the store (apparently before the arrival of "Megadeth") and get into a waiting vehicle. They leave at least a minute or two before "Megadeth" arrives. Why do I think it happened like this? Because Megadeth seemed (from the customers description) to be somewhat confused about the store and its layout. He definitely was unfamiliar w/ the cash register.

Also, I believe that "Megadeth" actual was somewhat honest as he didn't clean out the store after the customer he served left and apparently didn't steal any money. Perhaps he was frightened or leery about additional customers or thought that maybe the police would arrive. In this, he seems to be more of a "customer" than the perpetrator of a crime.

Finally, why (if he was a abductor/killer) would he have let the customer that saw him escape? If he had wanted, he could have kidnapped her as well or simply killed her as she was (apparently) the only witness that saw him. There certainly wasn't anything stopping him from doing this.


Why is it so hard to believe that someone who knew Deborah was responsible? Aren't most homicides committed by people who know the victim? I agree that it would be unlikely for "Megadeth" to stick around after the lady who bought the cigarettes left, especially if he was up to something nefarious. If two low lifes somehow went to the store to abduct Deborah, and one had her in the back at gunpoint, they obviously didn't mind taking their time since "Megadeth" decided to wait on a customer. After she left, he had plenty of time to empty the register and steal some other goods from the store since Deborah was already detained at that point. The fact that no money was missing tells me "Megadeth" was startled by the cigarette lady, and since he was up to no good, decided to get out of dodge before she called the police or another customer wandered in.
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There was no signs of a struggle anywhere inside the convenience store. If someone tried to strangle you, there would be signs of a struggle. If someone tried to stab you with a knife, there would be signs of a struggle...as well as a ton of blood everywhere. However, if someone pointed a gun at you, there is not likely to be any signs of a struggle.

Most likely, Deborah was behind the counter and her kidnappers pulled out a gun. It's 3:00 in the morning so there are not going to be many customers around. There are no surveillance cameras (stupid, stupid, stupid!). If she's got a gun pointed at her, there is nowhere for her to run and she can't fight back.

It's possible that Megadeath guy was one of the kidnappers. His accomplice could have been the one that was holding a gun to Deborah's head (either in the back room or behind the counter) to keep her quiet while Megadeath helped the customer so she wouldn't think anything was wrong. His job might have been to make sure the coast was clear so they could leave the store without anyone seeing them.

If Megadeath guy had nothing to do with the kidnapping and simply walked in to the store, found it empty and attempted to rob it, he would have taken some money. But no money was missing. Yet he went to the trouble of going behind the counter and pretending to be an employee of the store. That doesn't add up to me.

Just my thoughts. I could be way off.
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There was no signs of a struggle anywhere inside the convenience store. If someone tried to strangle you, there would be signs of a struggle. If someone tried to stab you with a knife, there would be signs of a struggle...as well as a ton of blood everywhere. However, if someone pointed a gun at you, there is not likely to be any signs of a struggle.

Most likely, Deborah was behind the counter and her kidnappers pulled out a gun. It's 3:00 in the morning so there are not going to be many customers around. There are no surveillance cameras (stupid, stupid, stupid!). If she's got a gun pointed at her, there is nowhere for her to run and she can't fight back.

It's possible that Megadeath guy was one of the kidnappers. His accomplice could have been the one that was holding a gun to Deborah's head (either in the back room or behind the counter) to keep her quiet while Megadeath helped the customer so she wouldn't think anything was wrong. His job might have been to make sure the coast was clear so they could leave the store without anyone seeing them.

If Megadeath guy had nothing to do with the kidnapping and simply walked in to the store, found it empty and attempted to rob it, he would have taken some money. But no money was missing. Yet he went to the trouble of going behind the counter and pretending to be an employee of the store. That doesn't add up to me.

Just my thoughts. I could be way off.
Kind of my thought too. One thing we know for sure is that this guy was NOT an employee of the store. Since there is such a mystery surrounding what happened all we have to work with is the "Megadeth" guy. If you ask me, he was involved only because it makes the most sense.

I am surprised more people haven't questioned the eyewitness statement. In my mind this is one of those situations where the desription of what happened seems too real to ignore so I am guessing we all pretty much believe this woman that there was a man behind the counter?
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There is nothing "fun" about contorting a tragic event involving a real, living human being into some sort of scary campfire story.
Absolutely, Meg. Absolutely.
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