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Old 05-02-2021, 11:44 PM   #61
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No blacks on Three's Company but they had a VERY funny Mexican character named Felipe but the actor who played him was Italian. They did have some black extras though.

Hollywood has gone completely INSANE! There is no need for EVERY single show to have minority characters as part of its regular cast!

Just like there is no need for a black show like Fresh Prince to have any white regular cast members & it DOESN'T!
Is the “token black character” racist? I have been watching WKRP lately and was thinking about that with Tim Reid who played Gordon “Venus Flytrap” Sims. He was mostly on that show because the show needed a black face, but the show was intelligent enough to address Venus being black in an all white workplace, and Venus along with Andy (and Jennifer and Bailey) were the most intelligent and mature characters.

But some traditional black shows had a token white person on it also, mostly a recurring character. The doorman on The Jeffersons or the white cop(s) on Sanford and Son.

Blacks make up 14 percent of the population so they should represent 14 percent of the characters but it depends on the place and even the time.
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No blacks on Three's Company but they had a VERY funny Mexican character named Felipe but the actor who played him was Italian. They did have some black extras though.

Hollywood has gone completely INSANE! There is no need for EVERY single show to have minority characters as part of its regular cast!

Just like there is no need for a black show like Fresh Prince to have any white regular cast members & it DOESN'T!
Is the “token black character” racist? I have been watching WKRP lately and was thinking about that with Tim Reid who played Gordon “Venus Flytrap” Sims. He was mostly on that show because the show needed a black face, but the show was intelligent enough to address Venus being black in an all white workplace, and Venus along with Andy (and Jennifer and Bailey) were the most intelligent and mature characters.

But some traditional black shows had a token white person on it also, mostly a recurring character. The doorman on The Jeffersons or the white cop(s) on Sanford and Son.

Blacks make up 14 percent of the population so they should represent 14 percent of the characters but it depends on the place and even the time.
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Is the “token black character” racist?
I don't think so. But it is likely trying to address something that might not be needed, to say the show has a diverse cast, by way of utilizing a black or minority character with the marginal role, either ignoring race of the character (which might be ok, but sometimes questioned especially with kids) or not portraying it well.

In the past, token black character critics have mentioned Tootie from the Facts of Life, even though she didn't have a marginal role. She was one of the four girls, but there were issues on the race episodes they didn't address well.

More recently, I've been watching Home Economics, a show starring Topher Grace, with him narrating a character about his life and his involvement with a millionaire brother and a lesbian sister, and his parents. The lesbian sister is married to a Black woman. The Black woman, the actor, is pretty funny and is a good cast addition. I've seen her on a few shows/movies elsewhere. But the writers added the lesbian couple having like 3 kids. Way too many kids and these black kids are more or less token kids on the show. The show is pretty new, but I kind of have doubts there will be much of a storyline for the lesbian sister and her Black family and raising 3 kids. The focus is still more on Topher Grace's character.

On The Conners, I have mentioned about DJ and his Black wife and Black kid. The writers had DJ's wife off on tour in Afghanistan pretty much since the Roseanne revival started, and not really had any story of the kid. The wife returns to the series for the last episode or last two.

Since The Conners started with a bi-racial family, hopefully next season, we will see more story of them, otherwise the show is just writing it in to say the show is diverse. Laurie Metcalf has a cushy salary on the show - higher than Lecy Goranson (Becky), but there is no Aunt Jackie story. She isn't a Conner even. I have no idea why an aunt is still lingering on the show, and hasn't moved on with a life of her own, after Roseanne died. It'd be sensible to have storylines on the sister-in-law, DJ's wife, and her interactions with The Conners, than so much screen time to Aunt Jackie and her interactions with Dan, Becky and Darlene.
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Is the “token black character” racist? I have been watching WKRP lately and was thinking about that with Tim Reid who played Gordon “Venus Flytrap” Sims. He was mostly on that show because the show needed a black face, but the show was intelligent enough to address Venus being black in an all white workplace, and Venus along with Andy (and Jennifer and Bailey) were the most intelligent and mature characters.

But some traditional black shows had a token white person on it also, mostly a recurring character. The doorman on The Jeffersons or the white cop(s) on Sanford and Son.

Blacks make up 14 percent of the population so they should represent 14 percent of the characters but it depends on the place and even the time.
I don't know if you are serious or what???

There were many African American radio station DJs in the USA during the 1970s/80s. WKRP didn't need an African American face as a token series character. Tim Reid was one of the main series characters. He brought a lot of positive attributes to the show in his role.

The Jeffersons had Tom Willis as one of the main series characters as well as Bentley the Jefferson's next door neighbor besides the doorman character.

Sanford & Son had a pair of cops on the show in reoccurring roles. One was Caucasian and the other was African American. They were partners on the police force and showed up at the Sanford's residence together.

The make up of a sitcom cast should reflect the nature of the sitcom.





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