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Old 03-12-2021, 05:11 PM   #16
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Jawarhalal on Head of the Class- Jory Husain who sometimes posts here on the Head of the Class board was a good actor. But the writers just had too many characters to give good stories to everyone, I don't recall Jawarhalal ever being the main focus or even B plot of an episode. He was the only student that happened to, barely had any lines in many episodes.


It was really cool to get to "meet" Jory here, and as you say, he never had his own episode, which he must have been disappointed about. But he was a cool character, one of the first south Asian actors regularly played on television, and it's sad they didn't give him more to do. Surely they could have, given the number of episodes they dedicated to Simone/Eric.


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Judy Winslow on Family Matters- I had thought Jaimee Foxworth's demanding stage mother was the main reason she appeared less and less until not at all. But after hearing about how her acting was mocked by Jaleel White and Darius McCrary, it seems like a lot of the cast was cruelly out to get her. As immature as Urkel always was, I had assumed Jaleel White was naturally better than that in real life, I had liked his guest appearance on Psych. Mocking her is awful enough, but if he really did lock her in the closet what shameful behavior.
I couldn't agree more about Jaleel's terrible behavior. Jaimee asked Darius, on the phone, to just not discuss if he can't say anything nice, and they seem to have a relationship where they can talk on the phone. I felt like Darius' comments were mostly respectful to her (not so much to her mom), but Jaleel's comments were horrific. Absolutely horrific. I will never watch him in anything, ever again.

The character of Judy Winslow was very mistreated, but I feel bad for Jaimee. I'm sure proud of her for standing up to bullies.
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Every comedy act from time immemorial has had a 'stooge'.
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It was really cool to get to "meet" Jory here, and as you say, he never had his own episode, which he must have been disappointed about. But he was a cool character, one of the first south Asian actors regularly played on television, and it's sad they didn't give him more to do. Surely they could have, given the number of episodes they dedicated to Simone/Eric.
Simone is my favorite, the only character I like more than Mr. Moore. Maybe less Alan. He was their attempt at an Alex P. Keaton but Tony O'Dell doesn't have the natural charisma of Michael J. Fox.
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Every comedy act from time immemorial has had a 'stooge'.

That comedy act becomes a lot funnier when you have three of them!!
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Simone is my favorite, the only character I like more than Mr. Moore. Maybe less Alan. He was their attempt at an Alex P. Keaton but Tony O'Dell doesn't have the natural charisma of Michael J. Fox.
Simone was awesome, and she was my favorite student as well. Just saying they could have thrown Jawarhalal a bone now and again.

Alan was okay, but you're right: he was a much weaker clone of APK.
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Well, Ted Baxter got beat up pretty good. As the show's punching bag, Ted was sort of patterned on Mel Cooley of the Dick van Dyke Show. But, only Alan Brady and Buddy really abused Mel. And, when all was said and done, Mel was still Buddy's boss. Ted was just the butt of everything, and I don't think they ever established why he stayed there, or why he was wanted.

Frank Burns: they were still hammering on him in the last scene of the last regular episode. Just seemed unnecessary and personal at that point.
Actually the character of Ted Baxter was based on a character from the series "He and She" named Oscar North. Oscar Jetman North was played by Jack Cassidy and it had been the hope of the people who put the Mary Tyler Moore Show together that Cassidy would play Ted Baxter but he turned them down.
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Stuart Bloom on The Big Bang Theory.
I thought the character of Stuart Bloom could have been a breakout character. The show had to service too many characters so Stuart was underutilized. To be honest the character of Raj really hit a wall the second half of the series run, it would have been a funnier show if Raj had been written out with Stuart becoming a fully realized character.
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I thought the character of Stuart Bloom could have been a breakout character. The show had to service too many characters so Stuart was underutilized. To be honest the character of Raj really hit a wall the second half of the series run, it would have been a funnier show if Raj had been written out with Stuart becoming a fully realized character.
Honestly, you could also add Raj (Kunal Nayyar) to this list.
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Actually the character of Ted Baxter was based on a character from the series "He and She" named Oscar North. Oscar Jetman North was played by Jack Cassidy and it had been the hope of the people who put the Mary Tyler Moore Show together that Cassidy would play Ted Baxter but he turned them down.
I'm glad Ted Knight took the role. Although Cassidy did make an appearance playing Ted's brother.
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That comedy act becomes a lot funnier when you have three of them!!
Ted Healy didn't know what he had.
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Cliff Clavin in Cheers
Half the characters of the show were harshly treated, both by the authors and other characters. He had the worst tratment I think.
Some episodes were kinda depressing, but in a cruel way.

Billy Thomas in Ally McBeal
His arc at the end was tremendous.

Willow Rosenberg in Buffy the Vampire Slayer
For totally different reasons: the authors grew too fond of her, chaned her and she simply became too much. From the most lovale character, to the unbearable one. But I'm not objective on this one.
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-On Family Ties, I think the writers made Mallory too dumb. Indirectly it kept her so far behind Alex in terms of popularity.
Appearantly, she was only dumb to make her mother the hippie feminist look smarter by comparison.



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I couldn't agree more about Jaleel's terrible behavior. Jaimee asked Darius, on the phone, to just not discuss if he can't say anything nice, and they seem to have a relationship where they can talk on the phone. I felt like Darius' comments were mostly respectful to her (not so much to her mom), but Jaleel's comments were horrific. Absolutely horrific. I will never watch him in anything, ever again.

The character of Judy Winslow was very mistreated, but I feel bad for Jaimee. I'm sure proud of her for standing up to bullies.
Wow... I missed a lot of drama here.
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When we're talking about "Family Matters" though, we have to remember Myra too.
They ruined that character just to make their precious Laura look (supposedly) better.
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I am a fan of Parks and Recreation but don’t understand why Jerry was bullied so much. That wasn’t funny. The other characters really acted liked jerks. Jerry somewhat got some of them back at his Christmas party but it didn’t really make any sense and it took away whatever fondness I had for the characters. If I was a 55 year old Jerry, I’m not going to get bullied by a 22 year old April. She is young enough to be my daughter and would put her ass in her place.

This sucks because I have been a victim of bullying in my life since kindergarten and even at work I had would occasionally be bullied. I am a big blonde guy and different people called me “Barney Rubble” which I absolutely hated (and turned me off completely from watching The Flintstones, the old show I used to like.) I worked at a casino dealing craps when someone rolled a 2 or 12 and the stockman went “Double the Bubble, Rubble.” I wanted to kill him. Even decades later I entertain fantasies of what I should have done, either assaulted him on the floor when I came back from break or follow him back to his home and do damage there. Nothing was done and I was the butt of jokes. No protection. I actually don’t want to be involved with people because of this and I went crazy and was on drugs.

I went to a drug rehab center and some fool said “You look like Barney Rubble” and I got about an inch to his face and said quietly that he spread that I will kill him. He didn’t. It sucks we live in a World like this, and I don’t have kids but if you do, you need to teach them to commit physical violence against those who disrespect you. Hurt them, make them know you won’t accept that. Even if you get beaten, more than likely you will get respect and this won’t happen again. If I could get away with it, there are some people I would torture and murder for insulting me. Which is a mystery why we don’t have serial killers who kill their torturers and insulters. To say we forgive them is so weak and a cop out. Anger is a true feeling and emotion like any other. We stuff it, drink it out or go crazy. Trust me, people who shoot up schools and shopping malls have reached their limit of society. Now you see the problem.

People are animals, never forget this.
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I am a fan of Parks and Recreation but don’t understand why Jerry was bullied so much. That wasn’t funny. The other characters really acted liked jerks. Jerry somewhat got some of them back at his Christmas party but it didn’t really make any sense and it took away whatever fondness I had for the characters. If I was a 55 year old Jerry, I’m not going to get bullied by a 22 year old April. She is young enough to be my daughter and would put her ass in her place.

This sucks because I have been a victim of bullying in my life since kindergarten and even at work I had would occasionally be bullied. I am a big blonde guy and different people called me “Barney Rubble” which I absolutely hated (and turned me off completely from watching The Flintstones, the old show I used to like.) I worked at a casino dealing craps when someone rolled a 2 or 12 and the stockman went “Double the Bubble, Rubble.” I wanted to kill him. Even decades later I entertain fantasies of what I should have done, either assaulted him on the floor when I came back from break or follow him back to his home and do damage there. Nothing was done and I was the butt of jokes. No protection. I actually don’t want to be involved with people because of this and I went crazy and was on drugs.

I went to a drug rehab center and some fool said “You look like Barney Rubble” and I got about an inch to his face and said quietly that he spread that I will kill him. He didn’t. It sucks we live in a World like this, and I don’t have kids but if you do, you need to teach them to commit physical violence against those who disrespect you. Hurt them, make them know you won’t accept that. Even if you get beaten, more than likely you will get respect and this won’t happen again. If I could get away with it, there are some people I would torture and murder for insulting me. Which is a mystery why we don’t have serial killers who kill their torturers and insulters. To say we forgive them is so weak and a cop out. Anger is a true feeling and emotion like any other. We stuff it, drink it out or go crazy. Trust me, people who shoot up schools and shopping malls have reached their limit of society. Now you see the problem.

People are animals, never forget this.
I don't believe that violence is the solution to these problems.
But it's not funny to me either to watch bullying being played for laughs in a sitcom.
And I can relate to how something seemingly innocous can make you go nuts even years afterwards.
People will not know why they shouldn't call you that and just see it as some harmless joke, but it's not.

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