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Old 12-11-2019, 02:12 PM   #16
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Sounds like the bottom line of all of this is that a complete series DVD set of all 435 episodes in complete uncut form won't be happening which is unfortunate.
I don't want DVD's with cut up/edited episodes, I won't waste money on that junk. My O & H viewing has been limited to You Tube as I've found some uncut episodes on there.

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Old 12-11-2019, 08:34 PM   #17
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I'd be happy if they did anything. If you can't get the early seasons, get the later ones.

No law says you can do season sets starting with S8 for example.

Oh, and include Ricky's songs. I'd pay extra, and so probably would others.
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Heck, I'd be happy to buy a lousy looking public domain version of the entire series, all episodes no matter if they're restored or not. Most important thing is to be able to see them and the public domain versions I've seen are certainly watchable and and certainly very enjoyable. The RTV versions of old and the current EZ Living or whatever that channel is called they only show those public domain versions and I certainly haven't a problem watching them. Most important is to GET ALL of THEM OUT on DVD beautiful or lousy, get them out and available on DVD. I'd be happy.
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It's too bad that Sam's project will apparently never reach fruition, but from a fan's point of view, between the DVD sets that were released about a dozen years ago and all of the episodes that are on Youtube (many posted by O&H crew member Jack Iannarelli's nephew, Mike Iannarelli [BandstandMike]), fans of the show certainly have plenty of O&H to watch.

Mike has even posted the 1981 KTLA O&H Christmas special featuring Dave, Harriet, and other cast members (but no Rick, who according to biographers refused to participate) and old clips. I had read about this but never saw it until he posted it. Mike also has posted the 1998 A&E Biography about the Nelsons, which David, Rick's kids, and Ozzie's brother Don all participated in.

At any rate, the DVD era, while not quite over, certainly has passed its heyday, much like with CDs. I am glad that I have the O&H DVDs that I do, but I don't need to use them to watch O&H. Much like with Rick's records--I have a lot of CDs, but even a lot of Rick's lesser known later recordings can be heard for free on YouTube, and many of his O&H performances (albeit almost always mimed) can be found on there too.
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It's too bad that Sam's project will apparently never reach fruition, but from a fan's point of view, between the DVD sets that were released about a dozen years ago and all of the episodes that are on Youtube (many posted by O&H crew member Jack Iannarelli's nephew, Mike Iannarelli [BandstandMike]), fans of the show certainly have plenty of O&H to watch.

Mike has even posted the 1981 KTLA O&H Christmas special featuring Dave, Harriet, and other cast members (but no Rick, who according to biographers refused to participate) and old clips. I had read about this but never saw it until he posted it. Mike also has posted the 1998 A&E Biography about the Nelsons, which David, Rick's kids, and Ozzie's brother Don all participated in.

At any rate, the DVD era, while not quite over, certainly has passed its heyday, much like with CDs. I am glad that I have the O&H DVDs that I do, but I don't need to use them to watch O&H. Much like with Rick's records--I have a lot of CDs, but even a lot of Rick's lesser known later recordings can be heard for free on YouTube, and many of his O&H performances (albeit almost always mimed) can be found on there too.
Between all the DVD sets I bought, and YT! I probably have at least 300 of the eps. While it would have been great to get all 435, 300+ is good enough, chopped up or not.

And I know I have at least 20+ uncut eps, which is nice.
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Between all the DVD sets I bought, and YT! I probably have at least 300 of the eps. While it would have been great to get all 435, 300+ is good enough, chopped up or not.

And I know I have at least 20+ uncut eps, which is nice.
To me the nice thing about the first Shout DVD set is the commentary on four of the episodes...although Sam did not add a whole lot (I would've preferred Tracy, who knew more about the show and knew more of the people involved in the show)...but having Dave offer his commentary on those episodes was great...good thing it got done, because not long after, he was gone.
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To me the nice thing about the first Shout DVD set is the commentary on four of the episodes...although Sam did not add a whole lot (I would've preferred Tracy, who knew more about the show and knew more of the people involved in the show)...but having Dave offer his commentary on those episodes was great...good thing it got done, because not long after, he was gone.
Yes I liked the Shout sets a lot too.

But the best set I Ever got was an old VHS cassette 20 years ago from Madacy. It had 4 uncut eps on it - all fantastic(Ozzie’s Night Out, The Motorcycles, The Fraternity Pin, Wally’s Traffic Ticket)
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Heck, I'd be happy to buy a lousy looking public domain version of the entire series, all episodes no matter if they're restored or not. Most important thing is to be able to see them and the public domain versions I've seen are certainly watchable and and certainly very enjoyable. The RTV versions of old and the current EZ Living or whatever that channel is called they only show those public domain versions and I certainly haven't a problem watching them. Most important is to GET ALL of THEM OUT on DVD beautiful or lousy, get them out and available on DVD. I'd be happy.
If you know the show, would love to discuss an ep. Pick one of your favs and/ or maybe a theme and we all can discuss. While I am a A-ZGame Junkie - Id rather mainline on this!
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I met with Sam a while back. The challenge is simple: to clean up, frame by frame, each episode, then digitize each is very expensive. So expensive it most likely outweighs the revenue from sales. Why? Because the episodes are already readily available for free or very little money on DVD. How many consumers are there that would spend what it would cost to by the best quality episodes when they already have access to pretty good quality now?
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That's a great point. The fact that they're public domain would make it hard to make money. One thing that's lacking--almost all of the final season, produced originally in color, either has copies that look really bad, or are from 16mm black and white prints. A good production of the color episodes would be a definite plus.

Also if 35mm prints of the color episodes exist, I'd buy it even if it wasn't remastered, but merely run onto DVD.

One issue would be Rick's performances, but the family owns the music, as I understand it.
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I think a box set of personal videos, interviews, reminiscing, and a few very high quality eps with uncut commercials, might sell well. ,
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The complete episode, as originally produced, is something that's missing in the DVD era. You'd think they would have gone all out for Andy Griffith, for example. But really there are only some of them with the original cast commercials intact. The original closing credits are played over Andy and Opie returning from the fishing, but these are all on the DVDs playing over a plain background (as they do in videotape syndication). Old syndication film copies of some of the color episodes retained the original closing credits, some of which are on Youtube (as are some of the B/W ones).

With O&H many of the episodes on public domain DVDs are complete with original brought-to-you-bys, and the original commercials--a definite plus.
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Heck, I'd be happy to buy a lousy looking public domain version of the entire series, all episodes no matter if they're restored or not. Most important thing is to be able to see them and the public domain versions I've seen are certainly watchable and and certainly very enjoyable. The RTV versions of old and the current EZ Living or whatever that channel is called they only show those public domain versions and I certainly haven't a problem watching them. Most important is to GET ALL of THEM OUT on DVD beautiful or lousy, get them out and available on DVD. I'd be happy.
Absolutely, that would be nice. But I’ve kind of resigned myself this isn’t very likely to happen. I know hard core collectors can probably get over 400 of the 435. I’m content with access to about 300-325. Probably 25 are complete with the commercials. But yeah, a complete 435 ep set, even with flaws, would be fantastic.
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I met with Sam a while back. The challenge is simple: to clean up, frame by frame, each episode, then digitize each is very expensive. So expensive it most likely outweighs the revenue from sales. Why? Because the episodes are already readily available for free or very little money on DVD. How many consumers are there that would spend what it would cost to by the best quality episodes when they already have access to pretty good quality now?
If this is the case, then why hasn't he gone public with this information? He should just be honest and tell all those who contributed to his kickstarter campaign that "it's not going to happen, and everyone will get their money back".
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If this is the case, then why hasn't he gone public with this information? He should just be honest and tell all those who contributed to his kickstarter campaign that "it's not going to happen, and everyone will get their money back".
As much as I hate saying it, I’m always skeptical of fundraising efforts like this, and just gave an amount I’d be OK losing. I only gave $50 and did get a credit mention, a cute t shirt and a photo. So I’m not angry at all, feel more badly for Sam as I think the disappointment and difficulties hit him hard—maybe embarrassed him.

I definitely think Sam is forthright, honest and meant well, but didn’t realize this project was too difficult to actuate. And everything he said he would do, and could do, he did do—at least IMO. It was just too big and difficult of a project
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