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Old 06-01-2018, 08:42 PM   #136
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And here? You mean trolls on this forum?
Sorry...there aren't tons of trolls here. Out of line comment.
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Occasionally we will get trolls but they are promptly banned. Props to the moderating team for that.
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Sorry...there aren't tons of trolls here. Out of line comment.
I mean, there are some cruel and insensitive jerks on here who don't care about trampling on other people's feelings and being general a-holes but thankfully there are only a couple of those and don't post frequently. I can't put up with those kinds of posters. And those are ones I wonder why they haven't been placed on suspension or permanent ban...
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Old 06-01-2018, 09:11 PM   #139
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"entire white race"? Don't put words in my mouth. Try again.

And no, Jarrett isn't black. She is Iranian.

I don't do drugs either. You've failed on all counts in your ignorant post and not worth any more of my time.
I wonder if that poster was on drugs...
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Oh, and yes, Valerie Jarrett is black.
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Jarrett was born in Shiraz, Iran, during the Pahlavi dynasty, to American parents James E. Bowman and Barbara T. Bowman. Her parents are both African-American. On the television series Finding Your Roots, DNA testing indicated that Jarrett is of 49% European, 46% African, and 5% Native American descent.
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"entire white race"? Don't put words in my mouth. Try again.

And no, Jarrett isn't black. She is Iranian.

I don't do drugs either. You've failed on all counts in your ignorant post and not worth any more of my time.
She was born in Iran, but that doesn't mean she isn't black. Both her parents are black. There was an episode of Finding Your Roots, which showed through DNA testing indicating that Jarrett is of 49% European, 46% African, and 5% Native American descent. So, yeah, she is black.

I don't even know why I'm talking about this because regardless if she was or wasn't black, she still was called an ape, which obviously was racially motivated.
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My opinion is that while cancelling the show was inevitable, yanking the reruns off everywhere is the extreme. What about the other actors who are counting on the royalties from Roseanne in syndication? Nobody factors that in, but they should.
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I wonder if that poster was on drugs...

Probably...but I put him/her on ignore so I never have to find out.
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Probably...but I put him/her on ignore so I never have to find out.
One thing I'm very proud I did...I just saw it because you quoted it.
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One thing I'm very proud I did...I just saw it because you quoted it.

I had to because the discussion was veering to quickly into political/racial territory (I know due to the topic, it's kind of hard not to), but I come here to this sitcom place to escape all of that nonsense.

Perhaps I shouldn't have even posted my feelings on the whole Roseanne fiasco, but i've always been a fan of her and felt compelled to weigh in on it.

But once it gets too heated, it's time to back away. This is a fun place to come to and I want to keep it that way.
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I had to because the discussion was veering to quickly into political/racial territory (I know due to the topic, it's kind of hard not to), but I come here to this sitcom place to escape all of that nonsense.

Perhaps I shouldn't have even posted my feelings on the whole Roseanne fiasco, but i've always been a fan of her and felt compelled to weigh in on it.

But once it gets too heated, it's time to back away. This is a fun place to come to and I want to keep it that way.
Yes, I totally agree. I'm for discussing, but when the discussion gets to a bashing frenzy , it's time to back out. Yes, it was racist. Yes, it was wrong. Can we just move on from that and enjoy the sitcom she was in before the tweets happened? I know I'd love to. It's getting ridiculous. It's a one-sided "am not, are too, am not" type of immature level of arguing that I don't ever want to be part of. And when you resort to putting words in other people's mouths...than you just lose friends. There's no other way to put it.
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"entire white race"? Don't put words in my mouth. Try again.

And no, Jarrett isn't black. She is Iranian.

I don't do drugs either. You've failed on all counts in your ignorant post and not worth any more of my time.
Actually, no. She was born in Iran to American parents who were African American.
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Excellent. Then you might not want to compare GW Bush to the white race being called monkeys. YOU are the one who made the comparison to GW Bush, not me, sweets.
True story but in 2006 a coworker reported me for making a "racist" comment. I asked what I allegedly said and supposedly I called them monkeys. The idiot wasn't listening because in fact I was talking about a record store (Tower) going out of business and buying CDs and the TV series from the Monkees! The coworker was trying to start crap with me.
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Yes, I totally agree. I'm for discussing, but when the discussion gets to a bashing frenzy , it's time to back out. Yes, it was racist. Yes, it was wrong. Can we just move on from that and enjoy the sitcom she was in before the tweets happened? I know I'd love to. It's getting ridiculous. It's a one-sided "am not, are too, am not" type of immature level of arguing that I don't ever want to be part of. And when you resort to putting words in other people's mouths...than you just lose friends. There's no other way to put it.

Sadly, I think this whole debacle will wind up overshadowing her legacy and be what people will remember of Roseanne. It's really sad and unfair especially when most of Hollywood today is so hypocritical.
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Actually, no. She was born in Iran to American parents who were African American.

I stand corrected. I thought she was Iranian descent. I believe her mother was white. At least she appears to be in her pictures. But i'm not going to continue a racial discussion here.

Bottom line is yes I think what Roseanne tweeted was wrong, insulting and hurtful towards Ms. Jarrett. However, it's the hypocrisy blatantly being displayed by Hollywood and her peers I find despicable.
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