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Old 03-20-2020, 11:36 AM   #1
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When did the show jump the shark?

For me, when they changed the settings, first from Eastland to Edna's Edibles, then from Mrs.Garrett's store to Over Our Heads, and when Mrs. Garrett left.

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Same. When Mrs. Garrett's character was minimized to the point where she was just a character coming in and dispensing good advice and delicious quiches, the show lost its way. It became a different series, far from its roots as a show about Edna Garrett and her seven girls at Eastland.
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When Mrs. Garrett left.
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Same. When Mrs. Garrett's character was minimized to the point where she was just a character coming in and dispensing good advice and delicious quiches, the show lost its way. It became a different series, far from its roots as a show about Edna Garrett and her seven girls at Eastland.
True, the show changed a lot from the beginning. If we compare Rough Housing with The Beginning of the Beginning, it seems that we are watching two different shows. The main setting (Eastland) gone and replaced with a house, the main character (Edna Garrett) gone and replaced by her sister, new characters. I miss so much Eastland and the cafeteria, open Over Our Heads was a mistake.
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When Mrs. Garrett left.
Agree with MA. Everything else in the show was fine, but the loss of Mrs. Garrett was too much of a hole to ignore. Not to say the show was bad after her departure, but her loss was always felt through to the end of the series.
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Jo playing piano! lol
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Agree with MA. Everything else in the show was fine, but the loss of Mrs. Garrett was too much of a hole to ignore. Not to say the show was bad after her departure, but her loss was always felt through to the end of the series.

True, as retro once said: MRS G was the heart of the show, and it was never the same again after her departure.....
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Trimming down the cast, but many would call that "Growing the beard" as its called when a show finds its stride.
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Season 1 and 9 are the worst seasons so anything from those years. Season 1 had awful writing and characters that weren't needed. Thankfully they got rid of the characters not working and started a trend. At the beginning of season 2, networks were able to see that a female cast show can work. The Facts of Life would not have been a hit if they kept the format from season 1 so that was definitely a jump the shark season that saved itself by retooling for the rest of the series. However season 9 had the girls drifting apart and acting weird, so that's another jump the shark moment for them.
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They couldn’t have avoided jumping the shark throughout the entire series, imo. Groups of friends don’t often live together through high school AND college (college and beyond maybe). Even if they had stuck to the season 1 premise, they would have eventually had to refresh with new characters, which also would have been jumping the shark.
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Season 1 and 9 are the worst seasons so anything from those years. Season 1 had awful writing and characters that weren't needed. Thankfully they got rid of the characters not working and started a trend. At the beginning of season 2, networks were able to see that a female cast show can work. The Facts of Life would not have been a hit if they kept the format from season 1 so that was definitely a jump the shark season that saved itself by retooling for the rest of the series. However season 9 had the girls drifting apart and acting weird, so that's another jump the shark moment for them.
I dont think a first season can be jumping the shark, it has to be a certain point in the series where it cant be redeemed again. As I said above Season 2 was growing the beard.
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Season 1 and 9 are the worst seasons so anything from those years. Season 1 had awful writing and characters that weren't needed. Thankfully they got rid of the characters not working and started a trend. At the beginning of season 2, networks were able to see that a female cast show can work. The Facts of Life would not have been a hit if they kept the format from season 1 so that was definitely a jump the shark season that saved itself by retooling for the rest of the series. However season 9 had the girls drifting apart and acting weird, so that's another jump the shark moment for them.

I strongly disagree with you regarding season 1: the set looked like a real boarding school and the actresses did just fine with their lines (especially SUE ANN was the best one out of the 'Lost girls').
It also had 2 great episodes such as 'Rough housing' and 'Like mother like daughter', where we see a lot of interaction between MRS G and CINDY vs BLAIR in one episode, and BLAIR + MRS G in the next.
Whats more: the pilot of DS 'The girl's school' was what first introduced us to FOL lol!
Nevertheless, i strongly agree with you regarding season 9: with MRS G gone by then and the girls acting weird, the writers wrote unbalanced stories, so it is no surprising the show ended....
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In my opinion, the cafeteria looked like a real boarding school, the dorm seems more like a house. I'm not a hater of a season 1 but I prefer s2-4 and 8 (although Mrs. Garrett was gone)
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I agree with the fellow season 1 fans. Most of the girls were needed. They all had individual personalities and characteristics, and therefore a place in the show, except arguably Nancy. The series of course became something wonderful, but it could also have been wonderful with a tomboy athlete, a midwest conservative, and an activist/feminist along for the ride (but a phone-glued girlfriend, maybe not so much).

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the actresses did just fine with their lines (especially SUE ANN was the best one out of the 'Lost girls').
I think Julie Ann and Felice were much better. Molly may not have been "better", but she was cuter.
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