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Old 05-26-2012, 04:52 AM   #31
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I believe Adam convinced Elena to help him escape by jumping off the bridge to throw police off his trail. I do not think Adam Emery is dead.
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Yes I wonder about that.I also wonder if he killed her and threw her body in the river.
either that,or the other person WAS adam with her,and,as someone said before,the coroner miscalculated the height of the bones.if it wasn't adam,I can't imagine who it would be.
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Yes I wonder about that.I also wonder if he killed her and threw her body in the river.
either that,or the other person WAS adam with her,and,as someone said before,the coroner miscalculated the height of the bones.if it wasn't adam,I can't imagine who it would be.
Yes this case is baffling as to what happened to Adam. They did certainly come across as self absorbed 'yuppies' in the segment but by all account they did seem very devoted to each other so its hard to imagine him killing her and then taking off. I do think the bones that were recovered that they said were too short to be Adam need to be re-examined. In this day and age they may even be able to get some dna from them and definitely match or exclude them as Adam's.
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This is one of the most enraging cases on UM for me. I would really like to know the fate of Adam Emery, particularly because the thought of him walking the streets is a disturbing prospect. I think he's probably in the water where his wife was found, but it would be great to have actual confirmation.
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I believe they jumped and he somehow, 1 wasn't found, 2 the bone height was miscalculated and he was there..
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I believe they jumped and he somehow, 1 wasn't found, 2 the bone height was miscalculated and he was there..
That's a good point I hadn't thought of about the bone height.

In any event, I always felt that they committed suicide together and Adam's body, for whatever reason, was missed by the search and rescue. Or, as you alluded to, the unidentified bones found might actually be his.

I think I've said before on here, and it's a controversial POV, but I think Adam Emery snapped in the heat of the moment and his killing of Jason Bass was an impulsive "crime of passion" type scenario that could have probably been avoided if Emery just took a minute to calm down and realize the consequences of his actions.

To throw his wife from the bridge or otherwise entice her to "jump first" knowing that he would not do so himself, the guy would have to be one cold SOB. Not impossible, especially given what happened with Jason Bass. Yet, considering that Elena was his wife, and that there was no other known history of violence that I'm aware of, and going by the known facts, the double suicide just always felt right to me.
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He's profiled over on the FBI's website, and they have no sightings of him since 1993. He jumped with his wife, IMO. He had far more trouble waiting for him had he not jumped. He could have been captured, tacked on additional charges (possibly even the murder of Elena), and faced even more severe jail time. It just wouldn't make sense for him not to jump.
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That's a good point I hadn't thought of about the bone height.

In any event, I always felt that they committed suicide together and Adam's body, for whatever reason, was missed by the search and rescue. Or, as you alluded to, the unidentified bones found might actually be his.

I think I've said before on here, and it's a controversial POV, but I think Adam Emery snapped in the heat of the moment and his killing of Jason Bass was an impulsive "crime of passion" type scenario that could have probably been avoided if Emery just took a minute to calm down and realize the consequences of his actions.

To throw his wife from the bridge or otherwise entice her to "jump first" knowing that he would not do so himself, the guy would have to be one cold SOB. Not impossible, especially given what happened with Jason Bass. Yet, considering that Elena was his wife, and that there was no other known history of violence that I'm aware of, and going by the known facts, the double suicide just always felt right to me.
I agree wholeheartedly on all points. Without absolving Adam Emery of what he did, the man was not a cold-blooded calculated killer. If anything this case much like the case of Richard Church proves how one snap decision can ruin many lives. I'm almost positive that Adam Emery died alongside his wife Elena. It was obviously a pact they made, for Adam never to spend a day behind bars and for them not having to be separated from one another even in death. The only thing I question is the fact that they were so calculated in the events that preceded the suicide, going shopping together, having a last meal together and things of that nature. Although that could've all been part of the process as well and maybe attaching too much weight to those sorts of things is foolish.

By the way and not to make light of a serious situation by any means, I've been to that chowder house that the Emery's frequented the night of the hit and run/homicide. They have homemade doughnuts that are in a word: incredible.
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I re-watched this case the other day. I always just assumed it was a suicide pact and they didn't locate Adam's body.

But when re-watching it ( I believe it was a ferina episode.) I remember they said that Adam and Elena went out to a fast food restaurant before they were seen on the bridge. Now, this may sound silly but if I were going to make a suicide pact with someone, my last meal wouldn't be from a fast food joint.

Now, I am thinking maybe they were planning on just making it look like a suicide. Perhaps they jumped, hoping they would be able to survive the water, swimming to shore to make a new life for themselves. Maybe Elena accidentally drowned or died on impact and Adam survived swimming away? I don't know enough details to remember if anyone looked at this possibility.
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I re-watched this case the other day. I always just assumed it was a suicide pact and they didn't locate Adam's body.

But when re-watching it ( I believe it was a ferina episode.) I remember they said that Adam and Elena went out to a fast food restaurant before they were seen on the bridge. Now, this may sound silly but if I were going to make a suicide pact with someone, my last meal wouldn't be from a fast food joint.

Now, I am thinking maybe they were planning on just making it look like a suicide. Perhaps they jumped, hoping they would be able to survive the water, swimming to shore to make a new life for themselves. Maybe Elena accidentally drowned or died on impact and Adam survived swimming away? I don't know enough details to remember if anyone looked at this possibility.
If they really were wearing the dive weights, tho, there's no way they could have survived to swim to shore. Maybe they threw the dive weights in and then jumped hoping to make it to shore.

My opinion is that they most likely both jumped and only one has been partially recovered, but I think it is very weird that they were haggling over the price of the dive weights and had their last meal at a fast food restaurant.

If I were planning to commit suicide, I don't think food would be on my mind at all and I definitely know I wouldn't be complaining about being overcharged for the item I was going to use to take myself out with. Who cares how much it costs? Weird.

Unless Adam and Elaina figured that once their estate was settled, more money would go to their heirs if the credit card bill was cheaper, but sheesh, what's a few bucks, it's not like they were arguing over something that cost thousands of dollars. He was probably just a control freak or so self important that he wanted what he wanted on his terms, even until the end.
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I re-watched this case the other day. I always just assumed it was a suicide pact and they didn't locate Adam's body.

But when re-watching it ( I believe it was a ferina episode.) I remember they said that Adam and Elena went out to a fast food restaurant before they were seen on the bridge. Now, this may sound silly but if I were going to make a suicide pact with someone, my last meal wouldn't be from a fast food joint.

Now, I am thinking maybe they were planning on just making it look like a suicide. Perhaps they jumped, hoping they would be able to survive the water, swimming to shore to make a new life for themselves. Maybe Elena accidentally drowned or died on impact and Adam survived swimming away? I don't know enough details to remember if anyone looked at this possibility.
I've always kind of thought this might have been a faked suicide attempt a la Robert Carrado. I think I'm more open to the possibility that Adam pushed Elena from the bridge than most seem to be. I think if he was desperate enough to want to avoid prison at all costs, and violent enough to brutally murder someone over something as ridiculous as the reason he killed Jason Bass, I definitely think he could be capable of using his wife in this awful manner to cover his tracks.
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If they really were wearing the dive weights, tho, there's no way they could have survived to swim to shore. Maybe they threw the dive weights in and then jumped hoping to make it to shore.

My opinion is that they most likely both jumped and only one has been partially recovered, but I think it is very weird that they were haggling over the price of the dive weights and had their last meal at a fast food restaurant.

If I were planning to commit suicide, I don't think food would be on my mind at all and I definitely know I wouldn't be complaining about being overcharged for the item I was going to use to take myself out with. Who cares how much it costs? Weird.

Unless Adam and Elaina figured that once their estate was settled, more money would go to their heirs if the credit card bill was cheaper, but sheesh, what's a few bucks, it's not like they were arguing over something that cost thousands of dollars. He was probably just a control freak or so self important that he wanted what he wanted on his terms, even until the end.

Do you happen to know if they ever found the weights? I don't recall if they ever found them. I assumed they bought them for show for the media, to make everyone think they were committing suicide. Then after they bought them got rid of them, like you said, they wouldn't be able to swim with the weights. Perhaps they just tossed them either in the water before jumping, but wouldn't investigators search the bottom of the river? Surely if they tossed the weights in the river, they'd be found.Perhaps they tossed them in the dumpster at that fast food restaurant? It's a long shot but just a thought.
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I really like this case. I find it strangely romantic that they decided to jump together. How loyal must a wife be to stick with her husband after this awful crime.

I do love all these theories. My least favorite is that he pushed his wife off to make it appear they both died together. In the videos on UM they looked so loved up together I just cant see him turning on her like that.

I really hope that the one where they throw the weights off the bridge then jump in hoping to swim to safety, to trick the authorities. Unfortunately it appears that Ellena didnt make it.

To me Adam didnt seem like a too bad of a guy. If he did survive and go on to live a life on the run it is pretty amazing!

Like someone said earlier why would they be so fussed and haggle on the price of food / weights if you were going to kill your self? Maybe they withdrew X amount of funds from their bank to go on the run with and after they cut up they cards they needed to be tight with cash. That would explain it to me pretty perfectly.
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I really like this case. I find it strangely romantic that they decided to jump together. How loyal must a wife be to stick with her husband after this awful crime.
As she was allegedly egging Adam on in his homicidal rampage by screaming at him to run Bass down, I'd say they deserved each other.

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Adam Emery stabbed an absolutely innocent man to death after terrorizing him, then gave some half-hearted story about the whole thing being in self defense. He showed no remorse for his error, nor for Bass's family.
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As she was allegedly egging Adam on in his homicidal rampage by screaming at him to run Bass down, I'd say they deserved each other.
Yep...Elena was the one screaming for Adam to get his knife and go attack the occupants in the car...what a classy, romantic lady.

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Adam Emery stabbed an absolutely innocent man to death after terrorizing him, then gave some half-hearted story about the whole thing being in self defense. He showed no remorse for his error, nor for Bass's family.
While I have no sympathy for Adam Emery whatsoever, I do not think he was an evil person. Obviously, I don't think he intended on killing Jason Bass that night, but then again, he was the one who went for his knife, and he was the one who made the decision to leap onto Jason Bass's car. All he had to do was confront Jason Bass, and see that there was no damage to his car to know for sure that he wasn't the one who hit his car. I blame Elena equally for what happened that night.
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