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Old 09-06-2014, 05:45 PM   #136
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I know of families who would sleep in the back of vans/suburbans/pick-ups with caps on the great DisneyWorld road trip back then. Usually the kids would sleep at night while a parent drove, they'd stop at some crappy tourist trap like South of the Border for the kids to run around like idiots and the driver would sleep in the car. I even know people who would toss a mattress in the back of a capped pick-up, toss in some blankets and pillows and pile an insanely illegal (nowadays) mess of kids in the back for the ride.
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South of the Border is extremely cringe-worthy on multiple levels.
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This recent discussion made me remember a trip my family took when I was in my early teens. We rented a van (though, not the oft-maligned "child molester" type) and drove from our home in Florida to Washington DC, then to Minnesota and back to Florida. That was one long trip. Although we did not sleep overnight in the van, I know I sure as Hell did sleep while my parents were driving during the day because...there wasn't anything else to do. In anticipation of this, we did have extra blankets and pillows that we kept in the van in the event one of us did want to doze off.

Ergo, assuming the photo is a hoax, I can see perfectly legitimate reasons for the sheets and blankets being there, and for reasons that do not completely preclude the possibility of staying in hotels/motels.

One question I do have (okay, maybe two)....

to those who think this photo is real and that these are actual child abduction victims....

what do you think the purpose of taking the photo was? Along those lines, was its being left there intentional?
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I have made the trek through this area many times from Florida to the Carolinas and back. I have seen all the advertising and the hype and the hundreds of ridiculous billboards they have every few miles. In spite of this, I have never once had a desire to visit this place.
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South of the Border is extremely cringe-worthy on multiple levels.
for a minute there, I thought you were talking about Taco Bell Didn't "South of the Border" used to be their nickname?
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what do you think the purpose of taking the photo was? Along those lines, was its being left there intentional?
As sickening as this sounds, one possibility was that he intended to send the picture to their parents as a way of taunting them. (as in like the Nyleen Kay Marshall segment and other ones that had something similar to this). In that case, it wouldn't be intentional. Interestingly, in addition to that, it would suggest someone that traveled alot. If he was from Port Joe, for example, he surely wouldn't mail it from there.
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I have made the trek through this area many times from Florida to the Carolinas and back. I have seen all the advertising and the hype and the hundreds of ridiculous billboards they have every few miles. In spite of this, I have never once had a desire to visit this place.
I stopped at South of the Border last fall on a drive back from North Carolina to Miami after a Canes football game in Chapel Hill. Needed a break from the highway so I parked briefly and took the overhead walkway from one side of the street to the other. The place was nearly barren, which has been the case every time I've stopped there in recent decades. I don't know how they keep it going.

Overall it's not bad. The steakhouse is actually pretty good. I've stayed at the campground a couple of times. Once I made it an overnight destination.

The place I've never visited is Ron Jon Surf Shop. Drive through Florida and you're bombarded with their billboards from every direction and distance. The babes on their billboard aren't bad but nothing as memorable as, "Pedro's Weather Report: Chili today, hot tomale!"
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for a minute there, I thought you were talking about Taco Bell Didn't "South of the Border" used to be their nickname?
I think it was like "Run to the border" or something like that. And it used that bell sound a that sounded pretty much exactly like that which was used in the music in the Bicycle Bandit segment. For all we know, that could'very been where he was puffing off to next.

Overall, SOTB is a godawful, tacky place. You really have to see it to believe it.
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I had no idea what you guys were talking about. I thought it was some kind of low rent strip club or something. lol

Then I looked them up.

C'mon guys, those authentic Mexican sombreros made in China are pretty darn awesome! Check 'em out on IG:


http://instagram.com/p/jFLdAjxooF/
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I had no idea what you guys were talking about. I thought it was some kind of low rent strip club or something. lol

Then I looked them up.

C'mon guys, those authentic Mexican sombreros made in China are pretty darn awesome! Check 'em out on IG:


http://instagram.com/p/jFLdAjxooF/

Don't worry, last time I was there, there was in fact a low rent strip club on the premises. Strippers, fireworks and ethnic stereotype crap souvenirs. Fun for the whole family!
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For Michael Henley. I encourage you to look up David Paulides. He wrote a book on people who have disappeared in plain view in national parks across North America, but primarily in the U.S. Most of these missing person cases are still unsolved and are very chilling. Some of his work can be seen (or heard, they're recorded podcasts) on the forbidden site. Henley's case is a perfect example of some of the more notable cases featured in Paulides's book.

Person disappears in plain view in a national park. There is a massive search for the missing person for no more than 10 days. National Park services quit the search. Case gets put in a file. No one sees the file. Paulides has found thousands of cases that fit this scenario and in some cases has been stonewalled by the National Park Services into seeing the files. Some going back to the early 80's. Even under FOIA he's been stonewalled into not getting the missing persons case files and has even had some files redacted.
Ive totally read about his cases or actually listened to several of his podcasts. Creepy stuff!! I think its interesting to note that 6-7 miles for a kid is quite a long distance. I wonder what the terrain was like. According to Paulides, these kids are found so far away, and up terrain that would be nearly impossible.
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I think that this is vital and I think that this threw the investigation way off from the beginning. If I were looking into this case when it happened I have to ask myself which scenario is more likely: Tara was the victim of a hit and run or that she was abducted and held against her will, driven 1500 (more? I think more) miles away, had her photo taken and the abductors carelessly decided to drop the incriminating photo out of their pocket right outside the vehicle where she's being held. This seems to be exceedingly unlikely.
If people actually think the van the witness saw was the same one the boy and girl were photographed in, why in the hell would the "abductor" take his abducted kids out for a ride in public? It makes no sense. And then to just drop his photo off on the ground serves absolutely no purpose. There was no note, there was no type of "message", so what was the point?
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Ive totally read about his cases or actually listened to several of his podcasts. Creepy stuff!! I think its interesting to note that 6-7 miles for a kid is quite a long distance. I wonder what the terrain was like. According to Paulides, these kids are found so far away, and up terrain that would be nearly impossible.
That is a long distance but also remember that the cold and hunger drove him as well. Folks that have been lost have said that they felt driven, almost like they were being chased to become 'unlost'. This was also the last walk he would ever make and his life depended on it. If the boy thought his family and safety were up over the next ridge or hill he'd walk it and terrain or distance be damned.
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That is a long distance but also remember that the cold and hunger drove him as well. Folks that have been lost have said that they felt driven, almost like they were being chased to become 'unlost'. This was also the last walk he would ever make and his life depended on it. If the boy thought his family and safety were up over the next ridge or hill he'd walk it and terrain or distance be damned.
Very true, I would have loved to found out how his feet looked, was he still clothes, were clothes nearby, what terrain he went through. Some amazing stuff. I couldn't find any info on his remains.
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Very true, I would have loved to found out how his feet looked, was he still clothes, were clothes nearby, what terrain he went through. Some amazing stuff. I couldn't find any info on his remains.
Henley's remains had deteriorated so much they weren't able to determine a cause of death. I don't think they were able to determine much of anything from his remains.
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As sickening as this sounds, one possibility was that he intended to send the picture to their parents as a way of taunting them. (as in like the Nyleen Kay Marshall segment and other ones that had something similar to this). In that case, it wouldn't be intentional. Interestingly, in addition to that, it would suggest someone that traveled alot. If he was from Port Joe, for example, he surely wouldn't mail it from there.

Hold the phone... That letter and the phone calls were proven to be linked to Nyleen Kay Marshall? Last I heard most LE disregard them as a sick joke/hoax.
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