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Old 12-13-2012, 04:31 PM   #16
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Maybe it was just wishful thinking on their part (one perpetrator, not as much work).
I believe the investigators were pretty adamant that Angela Hammond's case was not related to Trudy Darby. That's what's so confusing to me. At first their were adamant that it was, now they're saying it's not.
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They might have been trying to "save face".
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And maybe in the beginning, they just went on the basis of an assumption. "Hmm, similar disappearance not too far away around the same time, probably same guy(s)", without any real evidence outside of just assuming because of the timing, MO and whatnot that the same people or group was responsible for both disappearances. The Clinton PD in those days may not have been the best funded or been the best staffed in 1991. And I don't think the FBI ever got involved with either the Darby or Hammond disappearance. Local PDs, especially in tiny towns like Clinton, could make mistakes and just assume.

It still strikes me as weird that at least 3-6 serial killers were "hunting" in the Missouri area during the late '80s/early '90s. They say at any given moment there are about 30 serial killers nationwide. That so many would be in one region of the country in a small period of time is incredibly weird.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:20 AM   #19
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I know a guy like Hall probably has no soul, but since I am assuming he is in jail for his many other crimes what is stopping him from confessing to Angela's disappearance? Surely he would have remembered a highly publicized case like this and said "Oh yeah, I remember that one, got a break there." Why not just admit to the murder and give the family some closure?
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I know a guy like Hall probably has no soul, but since I am assuming he is in jail for his many other crimes what is stopping him from confessing to Angela's disappearance? Surely he would have remembered a highly publicized case like this and said "Oh yeah, I remember that one, got a break there." Why not just admit to the murder and give the family some closure?
From what I understand, Hall supposedly doesn't remember a lot of his crimes to well, its been speculated that he killed in an altered state. I don't really buy it, I have always been dubious about the altered state theory, to me its just something used by killers to try to deflect some responsibility for the crimes they commit. But its possible.

His case is strange, mostly because he has never actually been convicted f murder, he is serving life in North Carolina for a Federal kidnapping charge. But it is belived he was involved in a number of murders.

Hall's resemblance to the abductor and the fact that Angela Hammond resembles his victims is very telling, only thing precluding him is the fact that he was never known to own a pickup truck. I don't think is a deal breaker though.

I hope this is the solution, because Hall has expressed remorse for his crimes and there is always a chance if it was him he could give Angela's family closure.

This may shed some light on the whole thing:
http://www.truecrimediary.com/index....e=cases&id=174

It is unclear whether or not Hall has been directly questioned in Angela Hammond's dissappearance, or many of the murders he's been suspected of.
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Hall's resemblance to the abductor and the fact that Angela Hammond resembles his victims is very telling, only thing precluding him is the fact that he was never known to own a pickup truck. I don't think is a deal breaker though.
Just really strange that the only two people who claim it was a pick up truck were Angela and then Rob from second hand information. Yes I know other "eyewitnesses" saw a truck, but we all know it isn't always the most reliable method. Is it possible there have been rabbit holes chased this entire time?
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Just really strange that the only two people who claim it was a pick up truck were Angela and then Rob from second hand information. Yes I know other "eyewitnesses" saw a truck, but we all know it isn't always the most reliable method. Is it possible there have been rabbit holes chased this entire time?
The whole abduction story has never made any sense...

Why would Angela go to payphone at midnight when she could have just drove down the street to Rob's house?

Why would Angela stay at the payphone for several minutes describing the creepy man and his truck in great detail, giving Rob moment by moment updates on what the man was doing?

How could Rob have heard Angela scream his name while he and the truck passed each other at such high speeds?

It seems the main reason people believe the abduction story is because Rob appears distraught in his interviews and his friends and family believe him. If you simply read about the case and take away Rob's video interview, the story is a lot harder to swallow.

Then again, Rob was heard talking on the phone at the time of the alleged abduction, and apparently ran off the toilet with his pants halfway down to chase after Angela...

Several articles say Angela was pregnant at the time of her disappearance, and Rob was NOT the father... yet UM didn't mention any of this. Who knows what else was going on in Angela's personal life... Is it possible Angela set this whole thing up and ran off to start a new life with another man?

Such incidents are rare, but if Rob truly isn't involved, it's the only way his story makes sense IMO.

I dont put much stock in eye witnesses either. The Lil Miss Lisa Marie Kimmel segment on UM is a great example. You even have a little old lady swearing up and down that she saw Lisa's vanity plate, and it made her curious, so she INTENTIONALLY got a good look at the driver and it was DEFINITELY Lisa... Turns out the woman lied through her teeth! False sightings and witnesses are a dime a dozen...

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I dont put much stock in eye witnesses either. The Lil Miss Lisa Marie Kimmel segment on UM is a great example. You even have a little old lady swearing up and down that she saw Lisa's vanity plate, and it made her curious, so she INTENTIONALLY got a good look at the driver and it was DEFINITELY Lisa... Turns out the woman lied through her teeth! False sightings and witnesses are a dime a dozen...
I totally believe this person saw Lisa. I just think she had her timeframes messed up.

...and I've already said my piece on Rob. Dude didn't do it. He's been cleared. Someone once said Kenneth McDuff may have killed her. I think it's an excellent theory.
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I didn't say Rob did it. I said I wonder if Angela set him up and ran off with the man she was pregnant by.


I'm sure phone records verified there was a payphone call. And again, Rob was seen running off the toilet with his pants down to chase after Angela. I don't think he was clever enough to fake a detail like that!

Sorry if my wording was confusing in my original post

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I didn't say Rob did it. I said I wonder if Angela set him up and ran off with the man she was pregnant by.


I'm sure phone records verified there was a payphone call. And again, Rob was seen running off the toilet with his pants down to chase after Angela. I don't think he was clever enough to fake a detail like that!

Sorry if my wording was confusing in my original post
My bad. I've defended Rob on these boards for almost a decade now... I am probably a bit hypersensitive to it.

The idea that Angela staged her own disappearance is interesting, but it doesn't account for Rob's transmission blowing. I've replayed that scenario in my head multiple times. I strongly believe had Rob not shredded his transmission, he would have caught up with Angela in the pickup.
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My bad. I've defended Rob on these boards for almost a decade now... I am probably a bit hypersensitive to it.

The idea that Angela staged her own disappearance is interesting, but it doesn't account for Rob's transmission blowing. I've replayed that scenario in my head multiple times. I strongly believe had Rob not shredded his transmission, he would have caught up with Angela in the pickup.
Even if he caught up, what could he do? There are lots of ways the guy could have gotten away still. Without a plan or backup the results would have been the same. I think IF he had caught up with them he'd just be living with a different IF ONLY all these years.

I don't think she staged her disappearance anymore than I think he did it, btw. That's an awful lot of trouble to go for something she could have just broken up with him and they would have moved on and she wouldn't have to leave her entire life behind. Why would she choose to have her child never meet her family? Just doesn't make sense.
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I have never heard if the police verified the blown transmission in the vehicle? I imagine he had to leave it on the street. But I've never heard if the police found it on the street where it died and subsequently verified that it was inoperable.
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I have never heard if the police verified the blown transmission in the vehicle? I imagine he had to leave it on the street. But I've never heard if the police found it on the street where it died and subsequently verified that it was inoperable.
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...The pursuit continued for approximately two miles before Robís transmission malfunctioned when he made a right turn, resulting in the vehicle stalling in the middle of the road, as the truck with the woman in tow quickly faded out of view.

Unfortunately, Rob had no choice but to walk back to town. Luckily, a passing motorist noticed him and picked him up and Rob asked to be taken to the police station so he could notify them of what just transpired. He arrived at the department just shy over midnight and reported the incident.

Initially, the police were skeptical of Robís story, believing it seemed too contrived and convenient. Nevertheless, as they began their investigation they uncovered Robís vehicle undrivable in the middle of the street.
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Thank you for that. That, to me at least, eliminates him as a suspect in my eyes.
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Thank you for that. That, to me at least, eliminates him as a suspect in my eyes.
She was kidnapped by a stranger.
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