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Old 02-04-2008, 10:03 PM   #31
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Watching Jimmie Walker on reruns of "Match Game" was a clue as to how arrogant and unfunny he can be.
Totally! I truly can't stand him!!
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Old 02-06-2008, 03:15 PM   #32
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After reading some of those posts about Mr. Walker and I can't believe just how arrogant he really is?!

I always thought of Mr. Walker as a very outgoing, social person.

And like a few other posters said about his appearances on MG, he really was unfunny! Even Esther Rolle, who also appeared on MG was such a nice person on there.

I also used to have a GSN recording of Classic HS w/ Jimmy Walker on there and even on that show he was full of himself, too.
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You have to remember that John Amos was written out of the show for complaining about the J.J. character. Esther Rolle was reportedly livid over the attention that Jimmie Walker got because she thought she was the star. Walker believed the show fell apart when Amos & Rolle left and he was right. I met Walker back in 1993 and had a chance to speak with him about Good Times. For him, it was not at all "good times" behind the scenes. There was constant personality clashes, the writing fell apart, CBS moved the series around, etc.
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Old 02-22-2008, 09:27 AM   #34
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John Amos was written out of the show for complaining about what he was being paid. There were many complaints from Esther Rolle regarding the attention that Jimmy Walker was getting when he wasn't really an established actor but a comic who was cast to play this role. Esther Rolle was unhappy that the direction of the show was making it more of the Jimmy Walker show and not based on the family unit as she wanted it to be so badly. If you ever have the chance to watch the "E! True Hollywood Story" of Good Times it does bring this out. Jimmy Walker obviously could not act and his comedy was very dated.
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John Amos was written out of the show for complaining about what he was being paid. There were many complaints from Esther Rolle regarding the attention that Jimmy Walker was getting when he wasn't really an established actor but a comic who was cast to play this role. Esther Rolle was unhappy that the direction of the show was making it more of the Jimmy Walker show and not based on the family unit as she wanted it to be so badly. If you ever have the chance to watch the "E! True Hollywood Story" of Good Times it does bring this out. Jimmy Walker obviously could not act and his comedy was very dated.
Thanks for your great post. It just shows what an astute person Esther Rolle was. And the idea of her being a second banana to the (highly) untalented Jimmy Walker is just outrageous. There were many things wrong with the show but Jimmy Walker heads the list. The show just narrowly escapes my worst TV show ever list. But Jimmy makes my most untalented list hands down!
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Actually, Amos criticized the "J.J." character in Ebony magazine and the show's producers were upset. It wasn't about salary, although that was the reason that was given in order to make Amos look bad. His salary wasn't the issue. He thought the "J.J." character was a negative stereotype and his public comments about it put him in hot water.
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There was a great deal of controversy about everything that was happening with the show at that particular time. Everything began to fall apart during the last season with John Amos as a part of the cast of Good Times. The direction of the show was a major issue and the constant pushing of Jimmy Walker was not what Amos, Rolle or Du'bois wanted. Amos was asking for a salary increase to what other leading males were receiving. His salary along with comments that he made got him out of favor with the so called creative heads of Good Times . In my opinion without Amos it made the show a block of 30 minutes that wasn't entertaining or relevant.
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And it is a shame that Amos was pushed out of the show. Too bad Esther Rolle didn't put up a fight then as if to say "if John is gone, so am I". ok, maybe she couldn't, but I sure don't think Good Times at that point could have gone on--both the mom and dad gone at the same time? (yea, it happened a season later, but that was why it did survive, it WAS a season later).
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And it is a shame that Amos was pushed out of the show. Too bad Esther Rolle didn't put up a fight then as if to say "if John is gone, so am I". ok, maybe she couldn't, but I sure don't think Good Times at that point could have gone on--both the mom and dad gone at the same time? (yea, it happened a season later, but that was why it did survive, it WAS a season later).

well norman lear asked the writers-"do you think can you do a show without a mother and father"


and since the writers probably had a house and car and bills to pay, they said-"OH HELL YEAH-lol
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I don't think CBS would have gone for it at the time.

Of course, we would have missed out on one of TV most classic lines:
"DAMN, DAMN, DAMN!!"
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God that was terribly rude for Jimmie Walker to do that to a fan; I am truly sorry..and my Condolences for you ever being a fan of his...
I think it was rude of him to do that if it really was him. Sometimes the managers tell them to do that for whatever reason.
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You have to remember that John Amos was written out of the show for complaining about the J.J. character. Esther Rolle was reportedly livid over the attention that Jimmie Walker got because she thought she was the star. Walker believed the show fell apart when Amos & Rolle left and he was right. I met Walker back in 1993 and had a chance to speak with him about Good Times. For him, it was not at all "good times" behind the scenes. There was constant personality clashes, the writing fell apart, CBS moved the series around, etc.
From what I understand they gave Amos a raise and he continued to gripe so they let him go (which was an admittedly was an impulsive decision on Norman Lear's part). They should’ve reached some compromise to keep Amos on the show.
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John Amos wasn't a take crap type of person, so, at that time, compromise wasn't possible.
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