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Old 08-19-2008, 03:25 PM   #31
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+I know I had to have seem "Ozzie's Girls", but just annnot remember anything about it.

Yes, we want David around for a very long time!
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Old 08-19-2008, 03:32 PM   #32
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As some of you may know, I recently sent a complete business proposal to David's & The Nelson Estate representation regarding licensing "Ozzie's Girls" for DVD release.....I cannot get into exact details, but the response did not go well and I doubt we will see it for many years or if ever....basically the releases do not make enough money for The estate.

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Old 08-19-2008, 03:47 PM   #33
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I guess that the way it is with a lot of the older shows, not making enough money. It's a shame, there's so many good shows I'd love to get. I do hope David Nelson is around for a very long time, even though we won't get to see the rest of the episodes.
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Old 08-19-2008, 04:23 PM   #34
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I doubt David ever authorizes the release of all the show. I I guess David is honoring his father's wishes by not releasing them.

I wonder why Ozzie wouldn't want them released? I think every fan of O&H would agree, that it would be a dream set to have. Most everything always comes down to money though.
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Old 08-19-2008, 04:47 PM   #35
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Ozzie did not want certain episodes released in syndication because he felt that some episodes were just not good enough to be reran. I guess it was a personal thing where he felt certain stories just didn't gel or were not funny enough, so that is why he only allowed 200 episodes in the initial syndication package. After Ozzie passed on and David took control, he allowed another 100 to be added when The Disney Channel purchased the series. I guess maybe David feels the remainder really doesn't measure up--after all, there have to be some turkeys in the episodes produced. Still, shouldn't we fans be allowed to decide that for ourselves? I guess we should be grateful--look at how many series from the '50s and '60s that will probably never again see the light of day in reruns, much less DVD release.
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"I guess we should be grateful--look at how many series from the '50s and '60s that will probably never again see the light of day in reruns, much less DVD release."

True, I'm still waiting and hoping for Wagon Train. I have about 50 episodes, but most are the newer ones, I want the first shows with Ward Bond.
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Old 08-19-2008, 09:15 PM   #37
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Certain RTN stations are carrying Wagon Train reruns right now--mine is, on the weekends. Just a heads' up.
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"I guess we should be grateful--look at how many series from the '50s and '60s that will probably never again see the light of day in reruns, much less DVD release."

True, I'm still waiting and hoping for Wagon Train. I have about 50 episodes, but most are the newer ones, I want the first shows with Ward Bond.

Funny you should mention "Wagon Train". I just got a 196 episode set yesterday, and have just finished watching episode one with guest star Ernest Borgnine. This is one more series I haven't seen since it originally aired, and it's a real pleasure to watch it again.
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Unfortunately, I don't have RTN, there's only one place in SC that has it,. Myrtle Beach. Makes me angry because Time/Warner is the affiliate there and I have Time/Warner too.
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Well, Honeybea, we can see if some episodes can be taped for you!
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Oh don't tempt me, I'd be a hog and want them all! LOL I'm constantly emailing Time/Warner about this. With my luck, I'd get the channel, but not the show since Ithey offer different shows for different affilliates.
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Ozzie did not want certain episodes released in syndication because he felt that some episodes were just not good enough to be reran. I guess it was a personal thing where he felt certain stories just didn't gel or were not funny enough, so that is why he only allowed 200 episodes in the initial syndication package. After Ozzie passed on and David took control, he allowed another 100 to be added when The Disney Channel purchased the series. I guess maybe David feels the remainder really doesn't measure up--after all, there have to be some turkeys in the episodes produced. Still, shouldn't we fans be allowed to decide that for ourselves? I guess we should be grateful--look at how many series from the '50s and '60s that will probably never again see the light of day in reruns, much less DVD release.
Hey Jude, (sorry for that one)

I want to add some thoughts to Ozzie's decision for episode selection for syndication and how it effects us today....I was watching "The Testimonial" yesterday and felt it was a sub-par episode...even though I enjoy all episodes even when occasionally they are not classics. "The Testimonial" features Harriet (off camera) hitting Ozzie over the head with a frying pan and it got me thinking that perhaps this is one that Oz wouldn't have selected for syndication. I want to add also that Ozzie was perhaps told to limit his selection to 200 episodes because in those days they didn't syndicate entire runs of long running series...that brings us today....since I believe all 435 episodes of O&H are in the public domain, many of the episodes that are available have original commercials from original films and are not part of Ozzies original 200. So the theory that David doesn't let out episodes that his father didn't choose, even though he did with the disney channel airings, is definatley probably true. BUT that doesn't stop us and public domain companies from seeing episodes that technically Ozzie didn't think held up. just some random thoughts....what do you think?
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You are probably correct, TeeVee. and you owe me $327 (the Hey Jude royalty fee)

I was thinking of how many episodes I've seen that were not part of the original syndication package.

Look at My Three Sons--for years, the b&W years were never in syndication.
Same thing with other long running shows--of course, Lassie was syndicated under different titles.

Ozzie could have sold at least 2 different packages--the early years as "The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet", the later years as "The Adventures of The Nelson Family".-
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You are probably correct, TeeVee. and you owe me $327 (the Hey Jude royalty fee)

I was thinking of how many episodes I've seen that were not part of the original syndication package.

Look at My Three Sons--for years, the b&W years were never in syndication.
Same thing with other long running shows--of course, Lassie was syndicated under different titles.

Ozzie could have sold at least 2 different packages--the early years as "The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet", the later years as "The Adventures of The Nelson Family".-

Funny you mention My Three Sons about the synidcation. My Three Sons went off the air the same year I was born. I use to watch re-runs of the show all the time. It wasn't until Nick at Nite started airing the B/W epiosdes in the mid/late 80's that I even realized there were Black and White episodes.

Same thing with Bewitched. Until I saw the B/W episodes on TV Land in the late 90's I had no idea Bewitched started in black in white.. and began with Sam and Darrins honeymoon. I always thought it started with a 1 year old Tabitha, And the Second Mrs. Kravitz
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Old 08-24-2008, 03:26 PM   #45
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I learned about My Three Sons b/w episodes through TV reference books and never understood why we weren't allowed to see them in reruns back then.

I knew about BW's black and white shows because the reruns from the '70s had them. It was until like '78 or '79 they stopped showing them and then the show was repackaged in the '80s by Colex as a color show only.
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