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Old 04-28-2013, 10:17 PM   #181
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Wow! Reading these posts makes me feel like I am in police school, with all the soon-to-be cops weighing out the scenarios! Everyone here is so clever, I love it!!!!!!!

It's been a WHILE since I have seen this segment, but I do believe it was one of the first ever segments I saw when I was about 9 or 10. I'll give my thoughts, but I haven't seen the segment in at least three years, so I may not have all the details straight!

Okay, the issue of the mom not hearing the knock at the door. Well, let's face it kids, she just got home from the bar. She was probably pretty drunk, probably came home and had a few more drinks, and passed out. Sadly, children who have parents who are drug or alcohol abusers often take on adult roles, like doing laundry, preparing meals, etc. So it might have been quite normal for the child to answer the door at any time, including the middle of the night, not realizing the potential danger. However, my belief is that there is more going on with this than we know.

Next, the sister's sudden epiphany. As children, we all want to please. We want to give the right answer, we want to do good, and we are easily influenced to do so. In my opinion, the sister's memory could be fabricated or pushed upon her, or maybe she actually believes something that never in fact happened. Let's not forget the case of Clarence Elkins, who went to jail for raping his niece and killing her grandmother, all because the child said "It was uncle Clarence" and he was innocent but spent years in jail. When you are 6 years old, how many adults are you exposed to? You might only have one family member or family friend who is a blone guy, for example, so if a blond guy attacks you, you think it's him because they look alike, he's the only blond man you've ever seen! Or maybe you are thinking "the person reminds me of" but you are a child (children sometimes can't articulate this sort of thing). My point it, it's easy for children to get confused (like someone earlier mentioned about the goldfish pond in their own childhood).

Next, the sighting. I don't believe it. I believe it was probably some kid getting kicks by pissing off the waitress. I don't think the sighting was credible (imo).

I'm really not sure what to believe, but as some of you have pointed out, why were the FBI wanting to talk to mama on her deathbed?? Something is UP with that!
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:42 AM   #182
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I'm not sure if this is relevant but here's a link to an interesting case about a ten year old English girl who was kidnapped but found alive 24 days later hidden under a bed in a house owned by the uncle of her mothers boyfriend, apparently her mother thought they could make money by faking a kidnapping and then finding the child alive, this was the biggest missing person search for thirty years her mother is now in prison and the child is in care. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon_Mathews
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:30 AM   #183
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Does anyone know why the police think she's dead? It sounds to me like they know more then they are saying...
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Old 07-02-2013, 07:04 AM   #184
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Does anyone know why the police think she's dead? It sounds to me like they know more then they are saying...
I think they do know more than they are saying too. It's not like it's just because of the passage of time, because other young women/children have been found alive years after they disappeared.
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:50 AM   #185
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I think Anthonette's mother had something to do with her disappearance. I think she either sold her for drug money or maybe they were being negligent one night and Anthonette did something to cause herself to die by accident and they covered it up. I don't believe the "Uncle Joe" story of coming to the door in the middle of the night (unless it would tie into him/them being the people that her mom sold her too, but that would be risking Anthonette not answering the door, so I doubt that story is true).
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Old 07-02-2013, 09:18 AM   #186
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prob. bc most such occurances are linked to family members,spec. sometimes the mother.
I also think she knew more,but perhaps they would have questioned her anyway,regardless.
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Old 07-02-2013, 09:53 AM   #187
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I feel like when an eyewitness describes something that probably--or definitely did not--happen regarding a kidnapping or the like, he or she tends to describe the criminal element as "dirty" or "unkempt". It's like we associate bad morality with literal physical uncleanliness or neatness.

Would that be anything like crazy people look when they crazy?
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Here's a brand new age progression photo of Anthonette Cayedito:

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I found an interesting blog about Anthonette's disappearance and learned some information I didn't know before. Apparently, Penny had a habit of staying out late and drinking and she got home late and allowed the girls to be up (a baby-sitter had been with them up til that point). So that's why the girls would have been awake at 3:30 if the Uncle Joe story is indeed true.

http://byronwolf.hubpages.com/hub/mi...nette-cayedito


According to a neighbor, visitors were known to show up at all hours of the night. This would explain why Anthonette would indeed go to the door and calmly ask who it was according to the sister's account.
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I found an interesting blog about Anthonette's disappearance and learned some information I didn't know before. Apparently, Penny had a habit of staying out late and drinking and she got home late and allowed the girls to be up (a baby-sitter had been with them up til that point). So that's why the girls would have been awake at 3:30 if the Uncle Joe story is indeed true.

http://byronwolf.hubpages.com/hub/mi...nette-cayedito


According to a neighbor, visitors were known to show up at all hours of the night. This would explain why Anthonette would indeed go to the door and calmly ask who it was according to the sister's account.
Good find! Interesting to know that Penny failed a lie detector test. That tends to lend more credibility to the "she knew more than she was saying" theory that's been brought up in this thread. And that map that shows the distance from the kidnapping, the calls, and the diner makes me think that the girl in the diner was not Anthonette but someone who resembled her.
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I found an interesting blog about Anthonette's disappearance and learned some information I didn't know before. Apparently, Penny had a habit of staying out late and drinking and she got home late and allowed the girls to be up (a baby-sitter had been with them up til that point). So that's why the girls would have been awake at 3:30 if the Uncle Joe story is indeed true.

http://byronwolf.hubpages.com/hub/mi...nette-cayedito


According to a neighbor, visitors were known to show up at all hours of the night. This would explain why Anthonette would indeed go to the door and calmly ask who it was according to the sister's account.
That's actually an old link from last year. I remember talking here about Penny's late night bar trips, including the night of the kidnapping. It might have been in another thread. I'm surprised this is the first you heard of this.
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I recently watched this case again. I honestly really believe the mother was involved in some way. She either helped stage the kidnapping or she made it up to cover something up



Either way, the mother was a terrible parent. Letting her kids stay up at 3 am and allowing them to answer the door at night. Really reflects poorly on her
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I recently watched this case again. I honestly really believe the mother was involved in some way. She either helped stage the kidnapping or she made it up to cover something up



Either way, the mother was a terrible parent. Letting her kids stay up at 3 am and allowing them to answer the door at night. Really reflects poorly on her
While this is not the only case i've heard of of a child going missing after a parent went to bed , and sertainly is not the brightest thing too do to leave kids up unatended . I still would not feel right judging this woman. Exspecailly sense the neighbors who said she frequented bars, lets kids stay up late and let people come to the house all hours of the night were not conserned enough to call child protective services on the mother. Make's me wonder if they were exsagerating.

As for the waitress sightning. If she did not recognize the girl as Annette from her picutre or aged progrssed picture , how was this sighting connected to Annette?

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Old 09-11-2013, 11:14 AM   #194
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In some low income communities most people just stay out of other peoples business. So the neighbors not calling CPS doesn't really mean anything to me other then they might have thought it wasn't there place to call.

I'm really half and half on this. A part of me thinks that oh hell yeah the mother absolutely knows what happened to her daughter because she sold her to someone.

The other part of me thinks it was more or less a crime of opportunity, someone who was in the neighborhood/close to the family or someone who frequent the bar the mother went too and knew that the children were alone and then took a chance one night.

I just, you know get this feeling that the mother wasn't at home when it occurred and returned home to find her daughter missing. She could have easily sent the babysitter home and went back out. Honestly I don't feel bad for the mother at all, she may have in her own way loved her children but her actions kinda paint a picture of neglect and drug and alcohol problems.
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That blog someone created said the kids were alloud to stay up till 3 am. On Unsolved Mysteries, the kids were asleep and the knock on the door woke them up. And I still would like ot know how the waitresses story was connected Annette?
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