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Old 12-28-2019, 12:37 PM   #136
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So... I just rewatched this one. Iím sure itís been discussed before, but someone humor me: I know itís believed that she faked a 2.5 hour phone conversation with ďJohn,Ē but can we be sure that she didnít actually have a date with John and get stood up? I half-heartedly thought that may have been the straw that broke the camels back...
I find this way more likely than faking a 2.5 hour phone call.
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I find this way more likely than faking a 2.5 hour phone call.

I agree. Couldn't this be ascertained by looking at her phone bill? I believe phone companies provided printouts of phone calls made. If she never dialed out, no call would be recorded. If she did call somebody (John or someone else), the phone number and duration of the call would be on file with the phone company or on Gail's personal copy of the bill.
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If she did call somebody (John or someone else), the phone number and duration of the call would be on file with the phone company or on Gail's personal copy of the bill.
I think you hit the nail on the head here with "or someone else." I wonder if the John date was just a ruse. I don't doubt she was talking to someone for two and a half hours on the phone, but I think it was probably a friend or acquaintance. Sadly, I think Gail's depression was pretty severe at that point and it's likely she was already planning to kill herself. While sometimes suicide can be a little bit more spontaneous, I think Gail was planning this for a while.

The saddest thing is that I think she planned her suicide to make it easier on her kids, yet going missing only to learn the truth in the end probably made it worse. I just always felt really bad for her. She seemed like a nice lady who just was stuck in a rut without the joy she sought.
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These stories are hard to write, and newspapers can't spend resources on them, but I'd love to read one about suicide survivors. How are Delano's kids? How did the suicide change them?
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Now that I'm close to Gail's age I can say this, she was a very old looking 34 year old.
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Now that I'm close to Gail's age I can say this, she was a very old looking 34 year old.
I think it was the fashion at the time...
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I think it's more than that. I've made a game out of trying to guess the ages of people in the early seasons and I'm consistently off by a decade or two. I almost wonder if it was exposure to leaded gasoline exhaust or constant cigarette smoke or DDT or something else in the environment.
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I watch a lot of 1980s television like St. Elsewhere, Miami Vice, etc. One topic that comes up rather frequently is how younger people of the past looked much more mature than they actually were. The farther you go back, the more extreme it gets. Recent studies have suggested that adolescence now extends to age twenty-five (or beyond for some). This is gauged by the development of an individual's frontal lobe. Juxtapose these ideas with the idea that thousands of years ago we married our daughters off as pre-teens and thirty was a ripe-old age in our ancient history.

Correlation is not causation?
-Cigarette smoking was near ubiquitous in the 80's: hospitals, airplanes, etc.

-The U.S. government heavily marketed milk and dairy to 80's and 90's kids. Now we know that the milk was laced with bovine somatotropin, a growth hormone, since 1994.

-People had to mature sooner when life wasn't permeated with abundant cheap energy across the economic spectrum. Not to mention the life-improving technologies that cheap hydrocarbons enabled.

-Mediated reality has become a serious addiction among first world nations. My personal opinion: Technology makes children of men. The portable pocket pc (smart phone) has severely stunted sociological and emotional growth. If ever a 21st century, perverted Lockian definition of "property" needed to be applied, it does so here. They literally can't function with out them.

I'm not suggesting that these are actual causes, but just some thoughts that have sprung to mind about this topic.

One final thought: I was born in 1982 and identify the 80s as my childhood. Most people my age identify the 90s as their childhood. I have heard this referred to as Xillenial. Simply put, everybody's different, but every generation is different, too.
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So... I just rewatched this one. Iím sure itís been discussed before, but someone humor me: I know itís believed that she faked a 2.5 hour phone conversation with ďJohn,Ē but can we be sure that she didnít actually have a date with John and get stood up? I half-heartedly thought that may have been the straw that broke the camels back...
That's a possibility but the lengths she went to commit suicide though? I'm certain that had to be pre-planned.

Also I'm confused a bit, the trucker John who said he rode with Gail, it seemed as though that this was dismissed in the update. They said she drove to the restaurant, discarded her belongings and flew to Alabama.

Most of what John said seemed to be on the mark I thought.
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I think it was the fashion at the time...
Fashion was more conservative back then, which did indeed make some people seem older. For Gail Delano, we only got to see a few pictures in the UM segment. Also, I remember one or two of them being grainy. Maybe she looked closer to 35 in person than in the pictures.
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Ok. So if you looked old as the hills in the 1980s, you were actually young, you just looked old. Got it. Suddenly Iím questioning if Aunt Bee was over 18
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Fashion was more conservative back then, which did indeed make some people seem older. For Gail Delano, we only got to see a few pictures in the UM segment. Also, I remember one or two of them being grainy. Maybe she looked closer to 35 in person than in the pictures.
Comparable to Mary Ann Perez. She was only 36 when she disappeared...





Both Mary Ann and Gail got married and already started having babies while in their teens. During those times, that may not have been considered uncommon. But kids are going to age you no matter how old you are. So maybe they're to blame?
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I think it is the combination of many things. Unhealthy lifestyles (less exercise, lots of fatty foods, smoking, etc.), fashion that made people look older (haircuts and a lot of god-awful 80s designs), taking better care of skin, and the media of the day (pictures, videos, etc.).

I look at pictures of some of my relatives and in many cases they look way older than they were. Part of that I believe is that picture and video quality weren't as good, so naturally people look a little older because the photos look more dated. I think there is more of an emphasis now on looking younger and more fit for many people. There is a big increase in taking better care of our skin through the use of sunscreen and other products, so people don't look as aged. People are living healthier now in many ways (even though obesity is up) so I think that has a lot to do with it.

As for Gail specifically, she suffered from depression. That is a two-fold gut punch. First of all, the stress of living with depression gets you down and that stress can have physical effects which make you look and feel older. In many cases, it also takes away the desire to do healthy things like exercise and take care of yourself, and that can start a downward spiral. Gail looked older to me and I contribute it to a combination of the time and of her situation.

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In some ways kids keep you young, but it so many other ways, yes -- they make you feel prematurely old. I do agree that as a young single mother, it's likely that doing so much to provide for her kids probably did suck the life out of her emotionally. She was still a young woman but obviously a very lonely one.
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She was still a young woman but obviously a very lonely one.
Her journal entry that's read during the segment made it sound like she was 34 going on 70. Just the fact that she was so desperate to find someone before it was "too late," yet she was only 34. Just adds another layer of sadness that must not have helped her depression. She still had so many years left.
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Honestly one of the saddest stories to air on UM in my opinion. I can't begin to imagine the pain she was in. Hopefully her family has been able to deal with Gail's decisions as best as possible.
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