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Old 10-02-2010, 08:09 AM   #91
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I have to disagree about Michael Martin, McBeavis. He seemed to me to be a downright, flat-out liar. I could understand Doyle's attitude after all he had been through and actually really liked him and found him sincere. I definitely agree with your "do not believe" list, except for Ziegler, who I'm still pretty on the fence about.

And I absolutely agree about Colleen Ritter. She's one of my favorite interviewees. I found her to be incredibly strong and inspiring and believed her 100%. I've heard some people mention they didn't find her to be "upset" enough, but some people are able to handle their emotions very well. I found her to be quite impacted by all that had happened, yet she was strong enough to handle the interview.
Well, we do all have our opinions, but I really do not like Doyle. I thinks he seems like a hothead with an attitude problem.
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Well, we do all have our opinions, but I really do not like Doyle. I thinks he seems like a hothead with an attitude problem.
For sure. I'm glad on this forum most of the time we can all discuss our different views without having huge fights (though I have heard of some pretty bad threads in the past).

Sarah Powell is a very intriguing case. When I was younger I tended to believe her, but I've become more "on the fence" recently. If anything, I believe that she is withholding some info.
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Old 10-18-2010, 08:21 PM   #93
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I've always believed Tommy Zeigler was telling the truth...although at first when I was reading the book "Fatal Flaw" about his case I thought he was guilty about halfway through and it wasn't until the end that it all started to click and make sense. Also always thought Stuart Heaton really came off as honest and would have no motive to murder someone as far as I could tell based off of the segment. Curtis Heck was another one who I thought was pretty honest. I also believed the guy who was accused of attempting to murder his wife in a church office with a hammer. The wife survived and said something to the effect of, "Even if he isn't guilty he deserves to rot in jail for cheating on me!" Always found that kind of funny.
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The husband in the Caylor dissapearance (forget their names). The wife supposedly went on a train....and was never seen again.

That dude is SO guilty and I have no doubts in my mind he killed his wife. 100% sure about this.
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The husband in the Caylor dissapearance (forget their names). The wife supposedly went on a train....and was never seen again.

That dude is SO guilty and I have no doubts in my mind he killed his wife. 100% sure about this.

Oh yeah... Dottie and Jule Caylor. If you do a search on the forum here, you will find tons and tons of info on that one. It seems that most of us think the husband is responsible for her disappearance, but there are others who make a pretty good argument that points toward his innocence.
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Betty Cash (from the Cash Landrum UFO incident)

I really feel bad for her because of the radiation poisoning she suffered from after the incident. This is good enough evidence for me that the incident really happened, that she, Vickie and Colbie really saw some strange flying object that when they came into contact, harmed them. I also belive them when they said they saw military choppers flying overhead, as if searching for something.

What I really didn't agree with was how Betty wanted to blame the incident on the Air Force by suing them. She failed to show proper evidence in court, and I agreed with the court's decision. I saw some problems with her reasoning:
1) Even though there were military aircraft present, it doesn't mean it belonged to the Air Force, they aren't the only branch of the military with aircraft. In fact, some branches have more aircraft.
2) Just because there were military aircraft present, it doesn't mean the diamond-shaped object they came across belonged to the military.
3) If the object were military, it could have been some spycraft sent from some foreign nation such as the Soviet Union or Cuba. Don't forget, a similar UFO incident happened thousands of miles away at a USAF base near London, England around the time of the Cash-Landrum incident. There has to be some kind of connection, in my opinion.

I don't rule out the possibility that the object came from our own military, but there is no solid evidence that makes me focus on that sole possiblity.
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Here's whom the producers (and maybe law enforcement) expected us to believe that I did NOT believe- Melody's friend who drove the get away car! I can't think of her last name but remember Melody from Texas whose boyfriend was in prison who kept making collect calls to her house (that she supposedly was unable to stop?) and who got her to 'persuade' a friend to drive up to the prison wall? Well, according to the friend, Melody persuaded her to drive her car up to the prison wall and wait there for the boyfriend (Chad?) even though there was really no legitimate reason for the friend to drive a car up to the prison wall nor wait around for someone to jump over a fence! Anyway, according to the friend, Chad immediately shoved her out of the car and drove away with Melody and Melody supposedly had a 'helpless' look to her. First off, why would someone not wanting to help someone escape prison drive up to a prison wall and wait for them to jump off the wall? That makes absolutely no sense! Secondly, even she somehow was tricked into driving her car to that spot , why wouldn't she immediately lock their car doors,drive away, honk the horn and try to alert the guards to the escaped prisoner if she in fact had no interest in helping a prisoner escape? Third, considering how this person did a great deal TO help Melody and her boyfriend with the escape, why would anyone think she has any credibility re Melody's role- much less her own instead of trying to shift the blame entirely to a known prisoner even though she wound up dumped out of her own car? Sorry, of all the witnesses on Melody's behalf, she came across to me as the least credible even less so than Melody's seemingly ostrich-headed dad!
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Here's a fairly long list of people, some already mentioned and some not, split up into three parts (people I definitely believe, people I definitely don't believe, and people I'm not sure about, along with explanation as to why I think what I do).

Definitely believe:

Alfredo Newball - There just didn't seem to be much that pointed to him being involved, and the other theories presented did not seem at all far-fetched.

Glen Consagra - I haven't seen this case that many times, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of truly damning evidence against him, and at least I thought he seemed pretty sincere in his interview.

John Branion - I've always been pretty staunch about this one. About 90% of the evidence and testimony presented in the segment strongly argues against him being the killer, and I think that a lot of people who probably don't really know what happened probably had it in for him just because he was a doctor for members of the Black Panthers. You have to remember that racially-motivated hatred was through the roof at the time.

Stuart Heaton - I know I'm swimming against the tide on this one, but I just didn't get a killer vibe off of him, I think his claim that someone in his profession would regularly end up cutting themselves is a perfectly legitimate one, it didn't seem to be made clear why some of the people against him seemed to not like him, I thought that his mother seemed sincere, and I thought that both the victim's stepmother and the prosecuting attorney seemed a little too sure of themselves despite several circumstances that might cast reasonable doubt.

Johnny Lee Wilson - The circumstances here are saddening but unfortunately all-too common. Basically a classic case of "respected pillar of the community is murdered. Police having difficulty finding a good suspect, so they figure, let's say that this retarded guy did it. He'll be too damn scared of us to fight it, and maybe we can even trick him into actually believing that he did it."

Michael Self - Out of all the inmates I've seen on the show who claim innocence, he's definitely among the top 5 most believable.

Jeff Oberholtzer - I never understood why this guy was ever considered a suspect in the first place, and I can't say that I was in any way surprised when the no-solve update was shown stating that he was no longer a suspect.

The Dowalibys -They just seemed like genuinely nice people, and some of the evidence used to initially convict David Dowaliby was weak at best to purely laughable at worst (especially the "large nose" incident). Plus, I didn't like that prosecuting attorney or police chief or whoever that guy at the end was. He seemed unwilling to accept the fact that he might be wrong.

Colleen Ritter - As one person said before, why in the world was her name even brought up in this forum in the first place?

The Tallmans - I know ghost stories can be hard to believe, but in most ways, they seemed like a pretty normal family. Though, to the credit of someone who was less forgiving of them, a ghost story does seem like one of the least likely type of segments where people would want to keep their faces hidden.

Curtis Heck - I believe that Curtis may have been indirectly responsible for Kenneth Ingy's death, however I don't believe that he had any murderous intentions, I believe he probably felt bad about having knocked Kenneth unconscious, and I think it's probably likely that he was the one who turned off the truck's engine in a possible attempt to keep him from dying.

Michael Martin - He may not be perfect, but he's one of the first people to admit that about himself, and as I often say, just because you broke the law once doesn't mean you did it again, and I think that the evidence pointing to innocence in this case is much stronger than that which might indicate otherwise, and the victim, Doyle, is, at least in my opinion, one of the most hateful and dislikeable people ever on the show.

Paul Freshour - I know that it's impossible to read people's minds unless you're a psychic, but I personally think that after having seen and heard this guy in his interview, it's really hard not to believe him.

Rob Shafer - This guy just seemed really genuine to me, and out of all the "boyfriends possibly suspected of killing their girlfriends" that I've ever seen on the show, there wasn't a single thing about him or his story that seemed the least bit odd or pretentious.

Frederick Young - Another guy who seems very sincere, even with his past legal troubles, and I thought quite the opposite about his brother. His brother's emotions on the talk show seemed wooden and pretentious, and even the accomplice (who would likely have nothing to gain since he got a 20 year sentence) insists that Frederick Young is innocent.

Larry Race - Another guy who admits he's made some mistakes, but seems sincere in his insistence that he's not guilty of murder, and has support from both sides of his family, and the prosecutor in this case is another one of those major hard-heads that I just can't bring myself to like.

Darlie Routier - I know this is one of the more controversial cases, with strong argument on both sides, but it seems to me that she would have had to do an awful lot (as well as know an awful lot about crime scene investigation) to stage such an incident herself (and her husband is not a suspect in the case). And a question that was posed in the segment that keeps coming up for me over and over again is why, if she was after life insurance money, didn't she kill her husband, who was worth hundreds of thousands of dollars more than the kids? And the hair that was determined to belong to a Rowlett police officer; I'm wondering how she would ever come into possession of that in the first place?

Wayne Hecker - I know I'm probably one of his few supporters, but at least from viewing the segment, the case against him doesn't seem that strong, and I think that his cocky attitude is probably out of some anger and annoyance about having the finger pointed him.
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People I definitely DO NOT believe:

Chad Noe - The guy really makes me want to smash the TV when I see him on it. He practically confesses and then has the nerve to say, "not me. I wouldn't ever do something like that." I think his mother was also involved. To be honest, however, I've always kind of been on the fence about his grandmother. I'm not saying she's absolutely innocent, but if she was dropped off at home prior to Wendy, Cynthia and Lisa Renee being kicked out at the Wal-Mart, it kind of seems unclear as to what, if any part, she might have had in the disappearance.

Stephen Marfeo - In all honesty, the first bunch of times I saw this segment, I was actually leaning more towards him not being guilty, but then when I first saw the text update from 1999, it pretty much changed my opinion of him right away.

Mark Nichols - Another scumbag who practically confesses to something during the interview and then tries to make light of it. I wonder if they ever did do any digging at the town dump. Might not be a bad place to look.

Tommy Zeigler - I know this guy has some supporters, but I honestly think his account of what happened is so pathetic that I actually surprised that he's still alive at this point.

Larry Gibson - At first, I was leaning the other way, but with repeated viewings of this segment, I began to realize just how utterly emotionless he was. However, one thing that I still believe in strongly in this case is that the actual death was not pre-meditated and most likely not even intentional.

Sam Patel - Creep with a capital C. Much of his behavior is disturbing, and he seems almost taunting about giving up the shirt. "If they just ask reeeeeeel nice, I be sooooo glad to hand it over.

Franklin Floyd - Without question, one of the most sick and twisted people ever to appear on the show, and the question of what happened to Michael Hughes is honestly not even the most disturbing aspect of the case in my opinion. To me, I think discovering the origins of his so-called daughter/wife would be even scarier.

Paul Pollis - Not only a liar, but not a very good one, either. I just like a clean house - WTF? By the way, I did read something a few years ago that I found kind of disturbing. It might not change the fact that he's most likely guilty, but I was still shocked. Apparently, Charlotte Nagi (Charlotte Pollis's mother, interviewed in the segment) was arrested a few years ago for abducting the Pollis children.

Judy Groezinger - Seen buying the murder weapon. Fingerprints found at the scene. "Comes out" not long after. Definitely doesn't point to somebody being innocent.

Leonard Rizzo - Like someone said before, if everything that this guy has going against him (and might I add, beating up another woman he started seeing) isn't enough to get him put away forever, then what the hell is?

Joe Wampler - How a sherriff can do what he did and then have the guts to appear on the segment smiling and acting all casual is very beyond me.
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People I'm honestly not sure about:

Jule Caylor - Without question, this is one weird dude that you probably wouldn't want to be friends with, but, at least from viewing the segment, it also doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of hard evidence that actually points to him being the killer, either.

Bob Hall - In all probability, based on the facts presented in the segment, he probably had something to do with his wife's death, but he seemed nice in his interview, and he often spoke positively of his wife. To me, it seemed like they were a couple who had their share of problems, but seemed to have their share of good times as well.

Sarah Powell - I don't think that this girl had any evil intentions, nor am I absolutely discounting the possibility that what she said happened actually happened, but there's just something a bit odd about the whole thing that makes me wonder what exactly is at the center of it all.

Curtis Croft - I believe that he probably knew more than he was telling, but I also have no reason to believe that he was in any way involved in the attack itself.

Christie Mutzfeld - This is one where I think the truth lies somewhere between what she's saying and what Todd Kelley's parents are saying. I don't think that she was in on any plot to kill him, nor do I believe that she was a willing participant in any part of it, and if she did have any after-involvement, I'm guessing that she was probably intimidated into it by her other boyfriend.

Etta Smith - This was the woman whose psychic vision literally led her right to a dead body, and who went to jail for a short time because of it. She seems like a quiet, unassuming woman who probably wouldn't be mixed up in anything like that, but it's still eerie thinking about what exactly led her to finding that body.

Christina O'Donnell - Mother of abducted Lauren Jackson. There were two witnesses, one who's sure that she saw Lauren being abducted by a stranger, another just as sure that she saw Christina giving Lauren away. There has been some speculation over the years that these witnesses may have been mistaken about who the little girl was that they saw, but something about Christina herself seemed to strike me in an unusual and not necessarily good way.

Robert Webster - Marilyn "Niqui" McCown's fiancee. There didn't seem to be any truly damning evidence against him, but some of his behavior following the disappearance did seem unusual, and if nothing else, it was revealed that he's known to have a bit of a temper.

The hair that was found on the cut screen at the Routier house that people thought belonged to Darlie but was a Rowlett police officer. You said you were wondering how the officer's hair got there? I think the officer was examining the alleged exit of the intruder when hair fell off her head.


People that I believe on UM

Darlie Lynn Routier

Darlie Kee who is Darlie Lynn's mother.

Darrin Routier, he admitted being involved in insurance scams but I don't believe he hired people to kill his boys for insurance money. If he was going to have his home robbed, he would do it when the family was not home.

Wendy Camps husband Leon and Wendy Camp's mother

Patricia Stallings and her husband David

Jacklyn Dawallaby's parents David and Cynthia

Johnny Lee Wilson

John Purvis

People on UM I do not believe

Chad Noe,Beverly and Ida who is Chad's grandmother.

Stephen Maffeo

Dave Davis, to this day claims, he did not kill his wife Shannon Mohr.
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Has anyone mentioned Sheriff Wampler yet? Yeah I know Don Dixon is the main suspect here but Wampler did some crazy things as well. Burning the bed the victim was found on? I'm not a cop and I know that's the last thing you can do. Seems to me Wampler assumed his wife was screwing around and thought there was a possibility that it involved Eric.

Chad Noe is a given. He's lying through his teeth. I mean the guy admitted to it while he was drunk at one point.

Call me crazy, but I'm not totally sure Ida Prewitt was involved in the killings. Oh, I still think Chad and his mother had something to do with it. I think Ida was really dropped off and she'll obviously have the blind faith to believe her own offspring and grandson. So I believe she did not see the murders take place. She might have some assumptions, but I have a hard believing a 70 year old woman would be of much use during a murder. Things can happen, she can get cut, overpowered, she can get a bump on her head, etc. I think they dropped her off so she legitimately did not see what happened. But what a witch though.

Paul Pollis is lying. His mother I don't believe was in on it. She's another woman who will believe anything her son says. She seemed naive. So yeah Paul is guilty as sin, his mother is naive and doesn't know anything first hand.

Larry Gibson. Can anyone believe this guy?

Hmmmmm...................

Jeffrey MacDonald - 50% torn down the middle. There is a confession from a potential killer. There are witnesses that go in his favour. There is motive for the killers. Yet he's behind bars. Who to believe?

Tim McClure - If you ignore the ungodly haircut then you can focus on the case. Tim seemed like a simpleton. Too dumb to get away with a murder. He seemed close to his mother too. A lot doesn't make sense.

David Dowaliby - Okay I know a strong contingent believe he is innocent. I am not so sure. The evidence doesn't scream against him, but I would never rule out the bizarre abduction either. The grandmother not being interviewed is a warning sign too that bothers me. It just seemed like the abduction of Jackie would take an awful lot of work to do when all you had to do was follow her from school. I'm not saying David is involved, I'm just saying I don't think she was abducted from the house.

Seemed truthful...............

Larry Race - It doesn't make sense to kill your wife. Get a divorce. There just didn't seem to be any motive. He was unfaithful, but it doesn't make him a murderer.

Tommy Ziegler - If I were a betting man, he's innocent. Some people give you that "feeling" of a murderer. Tommy did not. Just an opinion.
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The person that best stands out in my mind as an individual I made my mind up about immediately after I initially saw the segment and have never wavered on is Judy Groezinger.

I'm almost certain Tim McClure is lying. I would not be surprised at all if he and his wife were implicated.

I don't believe Larry Gibson. A poster a while back mentioned that he/she thought that the death wasn't necessarily premeditated or intentional. I think I can definitely buy that.


I don't think I believe Darlie Routier either.


"Not Sures":

- Wayne Hecker. He definitely resonates with a resentful vibe, but I don't know whether that's because he's irritated at being viewed as a suspect in Tara Breckenridge's murder because he isn't at fault, or because he definitely is.

- Glen Consagra. Absolutely no clue.

- Tommy Ziegler. Again, no clue.

- Jeffery MacDonald. I give up on this one. There's so much finger-pointing, bungled evidence and shoddy investigation, unreliable testimony, inflated ego, and media hype permeating every area of this case I doubt we'll ever really know the full truth.
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Has anyone mentioned Sheriff Wampler yet? Yeah I know Don Dixon is the main suspect here but Wampler did some crazy things as well. Burning the bed the victim was found on? I'm not a cop and I know that's the last thing you can do. Seems to me Wampler assumed his wife was screwing around and thought there was a possibility that it involved Eric.

Chad Noe is a given. He's lying through his teeth. I mean the guy admitted to it while he was drunk at one point.

Call me crazy, but I'm not totally sure Ida Prewitt was involved in the killings. Oh, I still think Chad and his mother had something to do with it. I think Ida was really dropped off and she'll obviously have the blind faith to believe her own offspring and grandson. So I believe she did not see the murders take place. She might have some assumptions, but I have a hard believing a 70 year old woman would be of much use during a murder. Things can happen, she can get cut, overpowered, she can get a bump on her head, etc. I think they dropped her off so she legitimately did not see what happened. But what a witch though.

Paul Pollis is lying. His mother I don't believe was in on it. She's another woman who will believe anything her son says. She seemed naive. So yeah Paul is guilty as sin, his mother is naive and doesn't know anything first hand.

Larry Gibson. Can anyone believe this guy?

Hmmmmm...................

Jeffrey MacDonald - 50% torn down the middle. There is a confession from a potential killer. There are witnesses that go in his favour. There is motive for the killers. Yet he's behind bars. Who to believe?

Tim McClure - If you ignore the ungodly haircut then you can focus on the case. Tim seemed like a simpleton. Too dumb to get away with a murder. He seemed close to his mother too. A lot doesn't make sense.

David Dowaliby - Okay I know a strong contingent believe he is innocent. I am not so sure. The evidence doesn't scream against him, but I would never rule out the bizarre abduction either. The grandmother not being interviewed is a warning sign too that bothers me. It just seemed like the abduction of Jackie would take an awful lot of work to do when all you had to do was follow her from school. I'm not saying David is involved, I'm just saying I don't think she was abducted from the house.

Seemed truthful...............

Larry Race - It doesn't make sense to kill your wife. Get a divorce. There just didn't seem to be any motive. He was unfaithful, but it doesn't make him a murderer.

Tommy Ziegler - If I were a betting man, he's innocent. Some people give you that "feeling" of a murderer. Tommy did not. Just an opinion.

So glad somebody finally said something about sheriff Wampler. I'm not downplaying the involvement of Don Dixon, because I definitely believe he was involved in some way, but from the time I first saw this segment, I always thought that Wampler was the most likely of the three suspects, not only because of the whole incident with burning the most important piece of evidence, but also because of the cocky, Chad Noe/Paul Pollis-ish attitude that he had during his interview. Plus, if he was a guy with a temper, he would certainly have had a motive if indeed it turned out that his wife was seeing Eric (which, so far, is still not something that we know the truth about).

Also, I'm very much in agreement about your uncertainty regarding Chad Noe's grandmother. I think Chad and his mother are both undeniably guilty, but his grandmother just doesn't seem to fit into the scenario. First of all, if she was dropped off at her home at a time prior to Wendy, Cynthia, and Lisa Renee being left at Wal-Mart, it seems unclear just exactly how she could have been involved (at least in a hands-on kind of way), and I think that even though she seemed a bit annoyed during her interview, she still didn't actually say anything during it that could be looked at as being all that suspicious. I personally think that Chad and Beverly probably never even told her what really happened, and because of the problem that arose where the day's supposed itinerary could not have possibly fit into the time frame, what I think actually happened is that after dropping Ida at her home, Beverly did not drive Wendy, Cynthia, and Lisa Renee back to their homes, but rather back to wherever Chad was, and it was there at whatever time it may have been, that the three of them probably met their untimely end at the hands of Beverly and Chad.

Finally, regarding David Dowaliby, I do believe that he is innocent, and based on what was said about his mother during the segment, I'm not surprised that she wasn't interviewed. She sounded like some kind of floozy who probably wouldn't be able to offer anything helpful.
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Also, I've never really had a good idea on what to make of Tim McClure.

In the defense of what some people said, he came across as a quiet, unintimidating type of guy who did seem very close to his mother, but at the same time, it is rather troublesome trying to comprehend how he managed to canvass pretty much the entire area yet somehow end up missing the actual spot where his mother ended up being found. That part of the whole story is just too weird.
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The person that best stands out in my mind as an individual I made my mind up about immediately after I initially saw the segment and have never wavered on is Judy Groezinger.

I'm almost certain Tim McClure is lying. I would not be surprised at all if he and his wife were implicated.

I don't believe Larry Gibson. A poster a while back mentioned that he/she thought that the death wasn't necessarily premeditated or intentional. I think I can definitely buy that.


I don't think I believe Darlie Routier either.


"Not Sures":

- Wayne Hecker. He definitely resonates with a resentful vibe, but I don't know whether that's because he's irritated at being viewed as a suspect in Tara Breckenridge's murder because he isn't at fault, or because he definitely is.

- Glen Consagra. Absolutely no clue.

- Tommy Ziegler. Again, no clue.

- Jeffery MacDonald. I give up on this one. There's so much finger-pointing, bungled evidence and shoddy investigation, unreliable testimony, inflated ego, and media hype permeating every area of this case I doubt we'll ever really know the full truth.
I agree that Judy Groezinger is a lying scum. There is so much that points to her, and she was, like, so out of it in the interview that I can't help but wonder if she only agreed to it just to get herself on TV.

I've never had anything against Wayne Hecker, and I do believe that he was irritated at being considered a suspect.

However, I want to say in the politest way possible that I cannot agree with you on Darlie Routier. Just thinking about the whole scenario and all of the strange little circumstances involved, I think that this woman would probably have to be a well-seasoned crime scene investigation expert just to be able to pull the whole thing off without noticeably bungling something along the way. Plus, a question that comes up again and again is, if she killed for insurance money, why didn't she kill her husband, who was worth about 20 times as much as the kids were?
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Finally, regarding David Dowaliby, I do believe that he is innocent, and based on what was said about his mother during the segment, I'm not surprised that she wasn't interviewed. She sounded like some kind of floozy who probably wouldn't be able to offer anything helpful.
Yeah I know I'm usually in the minority on suspecting Dowaliby still. I'm not saying he is involved, but I don't believe Jackie was kidnapped from her house in the middle of the night. Too many things have to be perfect in that scenario. First off, NOBODY has to wake up from a broken window being smashed. Possible? Fine, I'll buy it. Then there has to be insight that the grandmother would be gone that night. Then below the window has to be undisturbed. Then the culprit would have to walk upstairs, wake up NO ONE, go into Jackie's room and remove here without a sound and walk out the front door. Why oh why go to all that trouble of having the possibility of your blood showing up on the broken window? Why roam through the house like a cat burglar when you could take her on her way home from school? It just seems like the hardest possible way to do this.

Granted there is no motive for David killing his own daughter. If I am wrong about my belief that nobody came through the window then I owe David an apology but it just gets me thinking, if this were my situation there would be precious few people that would know my house that well and my mother in law's surroundings. You get the idea that you could narrow it down this way.
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Also, I've never really had a good idea on what to make of Tim McClure.

In the defense of what some people said, he came across as a quiet, unintimidating type of guy who did seem very close to his mother, but at the same time, it is rather troublesome trying to comprehend how he managed to canvass pretty much the entire area yet somehow end up missing the actual spot where his mother ended up being found. That part of the whole story is just too weird.
I definitely agree on the assessment of his demeanor. Like you, I also find it difficult to reconcile this with the events that occured beginning the night of his mother's disappearance--the casino parking lot searches, his "discovery" of his mother's purse, and the big one for me: the credit card cancellation discrepancy. Deep down I have great doubts that company representative made that particular mistake. It seems rather far-fetched to me. Despite his seemingly gentle nature, I just can't accept his story as true--there's too much suspicion and coincidence for the span of just a few days after Teri's disappearance and death.
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