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Old 04-14-2015, 08:46 AM   #91
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I still think the gang theory is very possible. The pictures of the perp sort of looks like a homeless person. This might also explain the failed withdrawal attempts. A homeless person is probably nave of such limits, and probably doesn't know much more about ATM's, other than that they are machines that give out cash.

Interestingly, the initials on the bandana didn't appear until the update, and even then, they weren't actually mentioned, just displayed on the screen. I always wonder why more wasn't done with them.

The car thing is weird though. Why did the perp leave it abandoned? Since robbery was obviously the motive, why didn't he just have it broken down for parts or something? That would net more cash. I always thought the car was part of the motive (unfortunate since Matt usually walked - Teresa convinced him to take her car that time), but who knows?

I sort of got the impression this was a bad neighborhood. Matt's parents make mention of seeing a lot of unsettling things.

I always thought it was weird Steven Dahl called the bank, pretending to be Matt and asked about the transactions. If he was Matt, he would have known whether or not there had been transactions. It was a lie and just a very weird one at that. I understand he was trying to do good and have the card cancelled to prevent further robbery, but perhaps the robber got pissed about the freeze on the card and did Matt in because of it?

You could just tell this wasn't going to be a "good case."
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So the suggestion that the suspect or suspects held Chase for a couple of days before murdering him?
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I still think the gang theory is very possible. The pictures of the perp sort of looks like a homeless person. This might also explain the failed withdrawal attempts. A homeless person is probably nave of such limits, and probably doesn't know much more about ATM's, other than that they are machines that give out cash.

Interestingly, the initials on the bandana didn't appear until the update, and even then, they weren't actually mentioned, just displayed on the screen. I always wonder why more wasn't done with them.

The car thing is weird though. Why did the perp leave it abandoned? Since robbery was obviously the motive, why didn't he just have it broken down for parts or something? That would net more cash. I always thought the car was part of the motive (unfortunate since Matt usually walked - Teresa convinced him to take her car that time), but who knows?

I sort of got the impression this was a bad neighborhood. Matt's parents make mention of seeing a lot of unsettling things.

I always thought it was weird Steven Dahl called the bank, pretending to be Matt and asked about the transactions. If he was Matt, he would have known whether or not there had been transactions. It was a lie and just a very weird one at that. I understand he was trying to do good and have the card cancelled to prevent further robbery, but perhaps the robber got pissed about the freeze on the card and did Matt in because of it?

You could just tell this wasn't going to be a "good case."
Yea if we get pissed off when our ATM card does not work or gets taken away just think how a bad person is going to feel! I never knew ATMs can confiscate a card by sucking it into their machine lol. Would that block future cards that night from going in and being used? In the 80s at our small shopping mall there was an ATM machine. Funny how back then ATM cards were the thing, today the term 'debit card' is in.

Maybe if it was not a gang person that explains the car not being stolen for parts. If it is just a homeless person from the area they may be afraid of being seen in it or later picked up by a cop. I don't think it was a homeless or gangster, probably just a young man from the bad part of town who lives with his friends or his parent(s) in a crappy home. Just some street guy from the hood who lives in a house, but steals cash or things for drug money.

And the sketch of the mysterious man at ATM was creepy due to him being completely unrecognizable and the old UM scary music. In fact I caught this segment days ago on Farina and it sucked w/o the music. It is hard to catch someone from a fake cartoon drawing lol. The only thing they seemed to pick up was the thief/killer's big nose. So police are going off of a gangster or homeless man with a big nose? It is a good selling point, but otherwise no one knows the color of his eyes, hair, etc.
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I went back and watched this segment today. For many years, people here have pointed out the man standing at Matt's side is one of the creepiest images ever shown on UM. And while I don't disagree, the more haunting image to me is the expression on Matt's face. In the first shot, he's staring at the ATM screen looking very serious. In the next shot with the man at his shoulder, it's the same serious look but his head and eyes are now lowered. The picture is grainy and not perfect quality but it's just enough to look unsettling, as if Matt is trying to keep cool under pressure.

There's a 30 minute time frame between Matt's successful deposit and withdrawal and the next attempt to withdraw $280.00. He was abducted some time during those 30 minutes. Stack said the police suspected Matt was abducted right after that first deposit/withdrawal (ala-Gretchen Burford) but I have a hard time believing that. I don't think a sicko is going to abduct a guy from an ATM and then wait 30 full minutes to force him to withdraw money from that same ATM.

It was never mentioned if Matt made it to the convenience store to buy the cat food. I'm assuming he never made it because had he been there, it would have been a crucial piece of the timeline that UM would not have left out. But I think he could very well have been abducted in the parking lot of the store (ala-Kathy Hobbs) and then have been forced to drive back to the ATM, which would explain the time lapse between the transactions.

Sadly, I agree with those who say Matt probably didn't survive much longer afterward. Since the car was wiped clean of any fingerprints, no blood and then driven back to within blocks of where the entire ordeal went down (ala-Oliver Munson.). He was most likely driven to the ravine where his body was found and killed there since there were no signs of a struggle or blood found in the car. I think the bandana being left behind could be nothing more than the killer leaving it as a message, almost to tell the police, "catch me if you can.".
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There is no way that is her.
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Most robbers it seems just ask for a wallet or purse. Matt didn't actually have his wallet on him, just his bank card. I have to wonder if the wallet would have been enough to get the robber to go away. That might have worked a lot better for Matt - he would have had a limited amount of cash on him, and all but $50 from his bank card would have been recovered more importantly, he might still be alive.

a lot of "what if's" in this case.
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Really? I think it looks exactly like her.
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Says she graduated college in Tennessee.
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Her page doesn't mention Medford, OR anywhere, so I'm with you, it's probably not her. BUT, it does say she works in San Andreas, CA (which is nowhere near LA, but is in CA). Also the younger lady in the center of the profile photo doesn't appear to be Teresa (based on photo comments); I believe she is the lady to the left, who if you mentally age progress....maybe. Although, Teresa isn't "friends" with Steve Dahl...although, although, UM's Steve Dahl doesn't appear to be on facebook.

in other words, could be, but probably not. I'd say 25% chance that is the Teresa Dahl from UM.
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I wonder if there's any info on Steve Dahl. I got the impression he and Matt were lovers.
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I still think the gang theory is very possible. The pictures of the perp sort of looks like a homeless person. This might also explain the failed withdrawal attempts. A homeless person is probably nave of such limits, and probably doesn't know much more about ATM's, other than that they are machines that give out cash.

Interestingly, the initials on the bandana didn't appear until the update, and even then, they weren't actually mentioned, just displayed on the screen. I always wonder why more wasn't done with them.

The car thing is weird though. Why did the perp leave it abandoned? Since robbery was obviously the motive, why didn't he just have it broken down for parts or something? That would net more cash. I always thought the car was part of the motive (unfortunate since Matt usually walked - Teresa convinced him to take her car that time), but who knows?

I sort of got the impression this was a bad neighborhood. Matt's parents make mention of seeing a lot of unsettling things.

I always thought it was weird Steven Dahl called the bank, pretending to be Matt and asked about the transactions. If he was Matt, he would have known whether or not there had been transactions. It was a lie and just a very weird one at that. I understand he was trying to do good and have the card cancelled to prevent further robbery, but perhaps the robber got pissed about the freeze on the card and did Matt in because of it?

You could just tell this wasn't going to be a "good case."
Yeah i always thought that was strange that the was he called pretending to be Matt and asking about transactions... he would not get away with that these days. You need name, dob, password and so on....
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Her page doesn't mention Medford, OR anywhere, so I'm with you, it's probably not her. BUT, it does say she works in San Andreas, CA (which is nowhere near LA, but is in CA). Also the younger lady in the center of the profile photo doesn't appear to be Teresa (based on photo comments); I believe she is the lady to the left, who if you mentally age progress....maybe. Although, Teresa isn't "friends" with Steve Dahl...although, although, UM's Steve Dahl doesn't appear to be on facebook.

in other words, could be, but probably not. I'd say 25% chance that is the Teresa Dahl from UM.
Has anyone messaged to her and asked?
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I am still haunted by this case. I am never visiting an ATM again. I also think that the bandana was used to put off the LE. I am sure the LAPD investigated that angle and used their sources and snitches in the gang environment to find out if anyone knew anything.
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This segment was just on my mind the other day, I remember it being one of those eerie and sad original UM cases that stuck with me and made me afraid, and so I looked it up, saw this and feel compelled to give 2 cents on this whole case.

I hope that despite it still being unsolved after 28 years (my current age) I that Matt's friends and family have been able to find some closure and peace. May Matt's memory be a blessing and may his soul be elevated. I also feel that even though a lot of time has passed, this is a very solvable case. We have a picture of the scumbag who either directly killed, or was involved in Matt's abduction and murder. We also have a blue bandana bearing the insignia of the East Side Playboys mexican gang (ES PBS CLS). While the passage of time makes it seem less likely, with the advancement of technology, I disagree. Computer enhancement and dna testing (which was not nearly as effective as it is now) give this case a boost. Remember Gretchen Buford's murder also happened in 1988 (that whole case is similar to this one) went unsolved for many years, dubbed a cold case, until DNA technology matched sweat from a hat left in the car to her killer.
I think it was a misjudgment on Matt's part to go deposit and take out money at midnight in gang/ crime infested LA, but I also cannot blame the victim. We've all done things like that. In an ideal world, we should be able to do that, but we live in an often dangerous world filled with those who do evil.

This was almost definitely gang related, and there were almost definitely more than one person involved here. It seems highly unlikely that Matt could be kidnapped by one person alone. The other thing I suspect is that, considering the late 80's in LA and the crack epidemic, I highly suspected drugs were a motive in the robbery. There are many stories of people being robbed and killed either to use the stolen money either directly for drugs or to pay off debt to some serious drug dealers. I know that's all conjecture, but when I look at this case and see all the pieces of the puzzle, its more than likely that was the case.
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