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Old 04-02-2011, 06:15 PM   #16
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If you read the article written by Keith's mother (the link is in my post before this one), you'll find that apparently Keith had become friends with "disreputable people" who "may have been involved in drugs". The article also details the woman calling saying a suicide occurred in her basement, that tidbit was left out of the UM broadcast. The way the UM segment was filmed it kind of made it seem like Keith was the clean cut All-American type who would never hang out with drug users. But after reading the article by his mother it kind of makes sense to think that something accidental happened and there was an attempted coverup.

EDIT - Just thought of this...if at least one member of the police department was involved in this coverup, this very well could have been some sort of "sting" operation that went wrong. That would put the police at the scene of Keith's death and also give them a reason as to why they would want it covered up.
Ah, thats a good one. I never considered a possible sting operation gone wrong. That happened to a girl in my city a few years ago and it was a huge scandal. They shouldnt be using any civilian,especially young kids (the girl here was 21) in dangerous operations that have a huge chance in leading to someone's death. But how would the chemicals get in his system? Especially if they were inhaled.
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If you read the article written by Keith's mother (the link is in my post before this one), you'll find that apparently Keith had become friends with "disreputable people" who "may have been involved in drugs". The article also details the woman calling saying a suicide occurred in her basement, that tidbit was left out of the UM broadcast. The way the UM segment was filmed it kind of made it seem like Keith was the clean cut All-American type who would never hang out with drug users. But after reading the article by his mother it kind of makes sense to think that something accidental happened and there was an attempted coverup.

EDIT - Just thought of this...if at least one member of the police department was involved in this coverup, this very well could have been some sort of "sting" operation that went wrong. That would put the police at the scene of Keith's death and also give them a reason as to why they would want it covered up.
It wouldnt suprise me if the four boys mentioned by his friend and the new friends were petty drug dealers.
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Ah, thats a good one. I never considered a possible sting operation gone wrong. That happened to a girl in my city a few years ago and it was a huge scandal. They shouldnt be using any civilian,especially young kids (the girl here was 21) in dangerous operations that have a huge chance in leading to someone's death. But how would the chemicals get in his system? Especially if they were inhaled.
He very well could have ingested them himself. Then in a panic the elaborate "suicide" was staged in the woods behind the house he was in.
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If you go to www.keithwarrenjusticesite.com posted are official documents from the case. There is a new movement to get the death certificate changed from suicide to homicide. The friends and family have proven with verifiable evidence that Keith could not have put himself on the tree. The Montgomery County police department and the State of Maryland cannot prove with verifiable evidence that Keith put himself on the tree. There is also evidence in the police files that proves that the body was embalmed before the family id it. There is a movement on Facebook as well as a petition http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/hel...-find-justice/. The only way the family will see justice is to in the court of public opinion.
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He very well could have ingested them himself. Then in a panic the elaborate "suicide" was staged in the woods behind the house he was in.
Inhaled it by himself how though? it would burn alot.
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Perhaps he inhaled something that was laced with the chemical.
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I feel that there is a possibility that Keith and Mark tried to rip off or not pay a drug dealer that they were involved with. If they were dealing, maybe they tried to skim some off the top and thought it wouldn't be a big deal. I feel something explosive happened, based on some information someone had...Mark tried to warn Keith that he/they were in trouble.

There is a possibility that someone involved was also an informant for the police - I've heard of stories where the police protect informants. I'm reading that there may also have been jealousy about a girlfriend involved. Someone heard that Keith had done something with this girl behind someone's back, but I think the information was false. This episode was very creepy.
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Whether or not Keith and or Mark were involved with drugs... it does not explain the inactiveness of the police, state of maryland, and maryland state official. Keith could have been the Manuel Noriega of Wheaton, MD that does not explain away the lack of an investiagation. Whatever Keith was involved in prior to his death does not excuse MCPD for not doing there jobs and for their actions after his death that could have possibly allowed someone to get away with murder. You can find official documents and video on www.keithwarrenjusticesite.com
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Whether or not Keith and or Mark were involved with drugs... it does not explain the inactiveness of the police, state of maryland, and maryland state official. Keith could have been the Manuel Noriega of Wheaton, MD that does not explain away the lack of an investiagation. Whatever Keith was involved in prior to his death does not excuse MCPD for not doing there jobs and for their actions after his death that could have possibly allowed someone to get away with murder. You can find official documents and video on www.keithwarrenjusticesite.com
I don't think anyone on this website doesn't believe there was a cover up of some kind done by the police in this case. I still think this may have been an accidental death set up to look like a suicide. But that does not justify the actions taken by the police department.
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I don't think anyone on this website doesn't believe there was a cover up of some kind done by the police in this case. I still think this may have been an accidental death set up to look like a suicide. But that does not justify the actions taken by the police department.

....you actually think that the police would go to those lengths to cover up an accidental death? And if his death really was an accident, why did those photos have to be sent to Keith's mom with such an ominous note, and why did Mark Finley have to be killed?
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..and why did Mark Finley have to be killed?
First off, i feel the same way i felt years ago on this case. It smells of cover up and wish higher ups would take control of this case and solve it and break through the cover up. Now, why did Finley die, likely due to the fact that the people who killed keith feared that Finley would tell, there were 2 names though. i wonder if the other guy was killed.
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....you actually think that the police would go to those lengths to cover up an accidental death? And if his death really was an accident, why did those photos have to be sent to Keith's mom with such an ominous note, and why did Mark Finley have to be killed?
If the police were involved in some type of sting operation which resulted in Keith's death, then yes they would cover it up. Or the police could have bungled the initial investigation, didn't want to admit their errors, and decided to stick with there "suicide" ruling at all costs. Finley, obviously, was going to tell Keith's mom what really happened which may have been why he was murdered. Although, there still is the possibility (albeit very miniscule) that Finley's death wasn't a murder and he accidentally died from a fall from his bike. Finley died one month after telling Keith's mother he had to "unload" IIRC, which seems like a long time to wait before actually talking to Keith's mother. Had he died a few days after leaving the message, then yeah, you could say he was silenced before he talked. But a whole month went by, which is why I think it's possible that his death was nothing more than an unfortunate accident. And there was another person who was singled out in the letter and I don't think they ever died. The pictures sent to Keith's mom definitely suggest someone from the police department sent them, who else would have access to them?
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it maybe someone from the police department or someone who could get their hands on those pictures and likley got them in the police department. like i said, this smells of cover-up and why is the answer we need, but will not likely get unless someone opens up and unloads.
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Knowing Montgomery County I'd buy it. No offense to anybody who lives there but it is one of the more corrupt county governments and has a rather large bureaucracy (as is often the case with affluent counties). It is entirely possible that the part of the police force that isn't corrupt simply has no resources to go after those who are. With no real public pressure, Keith Warren's death just got swept under the rug.
True. Just do a Google search for "Montgomery County corruption" and it will bring up several stories about government and law enforcement employees who have been charged with bribery and other corrupt acts. I live in Harford County and like Montgomery, we are an affluent area with a large bureaucracy so we're a bit similar. Montgomery has also been in the news since last year for several murders, something of an epidemic apparently since the majority of the violent crime occurs in Baltimore City.
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it maybe someone from the police department or someone who could get their hands on those pictures and likley got them in the police department. like i said, this smells of cover-up and why is the answer we need, but will not likely get unless someone opens up and unloads.
The police admitted they were the official pictures taken at the scene by the police. The issue is that Stevie Wonder can see that this was not a case of suicide. After 25yrs and a change of guard, the current police officers, detective etc should make this a priority and do right by Keith Warren and his family and reopen this case. Sherri has a very simple request... Change the death certificate from suicide to either undetermined or homicide. Thru the efforts of the family, it has been proven that Keith could not have physically put himself on the tree. The State of Maryland and Montgomery County police department need to prove their case of Keith hanging himself. Since they cannot prove their case they need to change the death certificate.
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