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Old 06-17-2017, 11:24 AM   #91
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I've never felt the need to tip the haterade on Christie Mutzfeld.

I can understand the suspicion the Kelly family felt toward her and it's certainly problematic if she withheld any information about the early morning in question, but that's about where the problems begin and end.

She didn't want to marry her boyfriend right out of high school and started dating somebody else at college, then rekindled a relationship with said high school boyfriend later on. Sounds pretty ****ing unremarkable to me.
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Christie knew Huq was a serious criminal.

Huq told her more than once that if was with another man, he'd kill him.

She chose to see two men at the same time. That's a risky powder keg under any circumstances. But considering the first two facts above, it's reckless, irresponsible, and plain stupid.

I agree with others who've said that what truly happened is simple and obvious.

That whole business about Huq walking, Christie coming and going, the short time frame to clean up, etc, Huq at her house, the dog....it's all too complex, convoluted, and far-fetched.

She was involved somehow.

And I was disgusted at her "Bambi" act regarding Todd's family. "Oh my oh dear I don't know why they're blaming poor lil ol' me!"

She took no responsibility for dating two men at the same time, one of whom was a convicted criminal who threatened to kill anyone else she dated. What could possibly go wrong?
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Christie knew Huq was a serious criminal.

Huq told her more than once that if was with another man, he'd kill him.

She chose to see two men at the same time. That's a risky powder keg under any circumstances. But considering the first two facts above, it's reckless, irresponsible, and plain stupid.

I agree with others who've said that what truly happened is simple and obvious.

That whole business about Huq walking, Christie coming and going, the short time frame to clean up, etc, Huq at her house, the dog....it's all too complex, convoluted, and far-fetched.

She was involved somehow.

And I was disgusted at her "Bambi" act regarding Todd's family. "Oh my oh dear I don't know why they're blaming poor lil ol' me!"

She took no responsibility for dating two men at the same time, one of whom was a convicted criminal who threatened to kill anyone else she dated. What could possibly go wrong?
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I've never felt the need to tip the haterade on Christie Mutzfeld.

I can understand the suspicion the Kelly family felt toward her and it's certainly problematic if she withheld any information about the early morning in question, but that's about where the problems begin and end.

She didn't want to marry her boyfriend right out of high school and started dating somebody else at college, then rekindled a relationship with said high school boyfriend later on. Sounds pretty ****ing unremarkable to me.
I sometimes feel like men who've been burned in relationships project those relationships onto the women on UM. The guy who called Colleen Ritter a narcissistic b**ch in another thread comes to mind.

Mahfuz Huq was obviously mentally unhinged, but Christie bears no fault in that whatsoever. And regarding Huq's proclamation that he would kill her if she was with anyone else, I'm sorry, but people say a lot of stupid things when they're young. And Christie, Todd, and Mahfuz were all young. I had a girlfriend when I was their age who told me she would kill herself if I ever broke up with her. Today, she is happily married to someone who is not me because I broke it off with her.

Also, Mahfuz Huq wasn't the hardened criminal people would present either. Unsolved Mysteries used the word robbery for his crimes, but based on the facts of the crime, theft would have been more accurate (but it doesn't sound as thrilling on TV). These weren't gun-toting armed robberies. He and a friend stole some things from some people. There's a big leap between theft and murder.
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I sometimes feel like men who've been burned in relationships project those relationships onto the women on UM. The guy who called Colleen Ritter a narcissistic in another thread comes to mind.
No. It's a whole lot more complicated than you describe.

My take on Christie Mutzfield is that her behavior was at best highly deceptive. I think Colleen Ritter was a very strong, poised and courageous for the way she handled herself before, during, and after her ordeal, and if someone actually described her that way I would disregard that comment as insane.

There are certainly women on UM who deserve to be regarded with contempt (Ida Prewitt, Bonnie Wilder). Others should be regarded as heroes (Colleen Ritter, Su Tarakiewicz, "Laurie").

I view women on UM the same way as everyone else: as individuals. That probably comes across as trite but it is not meant that way.
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I've always felt she was involved or knew more than she was letting on. Either way she's definitely not my style (not that it makes a difference in the case) but if I got killed over a woman I wouldn't want it to be over her
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Christine did the wrong thing for the right reason, she saw two men because she loved them both.

Huq did the wrong thing for the wrong reason, he killed a man because he considered Christine his property.

People cheat. Half my friends wouldn't have ever been born if people didn't cheat as they are products of 2nd marriages when the first one ended because of adultery. Lots of people get their hearts broken. Very, very few kill because of it. Even if she helped Huq clean up, which I'm not sure that I believe she did, he had just made the fact that he would kill over her and was likely scared for her life.

Christine is a victim. Did she make some less than stellar choices? Yes. Doesn't everyone? Huq is the one who killed. This is all on him.
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Christine did the wrong thing for the right reason, she saw two men because she loved them both.

Huq did the wrong thing for the wrong reason, he killed a man because he considered Christine his property.

People cheat. Half my friends wouldn't have ever been born if people didn't cheat as they are products of 2nd marriages when the first one ended because of adultery. Lots of people get their hearts broken. Very, very few kill because of it. Even if she helped Huq clean up, which I'm not sure that I believe she did, he had just made the fact that he would kill over her and was likely scared for her life.

Christine is a victim. Did she make some less than stellar choices? Yes. Doesn't everyone? Huq is the one who killed. This is all on him.
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Christine did the wrong thing for the right reason, she saw two men because she loved them both.

Huq did the wrong thing for the wrong reason, he killed a man because he considered Christine his property.

People cheat. Half my friends wouldn't have ever been born if people didn't cheat as they are products of 2nd marriages when the first one ended because of adultery. Lots of people get their hearts broken. Very, very few kill because of it. Even if she helped Huq clean up, which I'm not sure that I believe she did, he had just made the fact that he would kill over her and was likely scared for her life.

Christine is a victim. Did she make some less than stellar choices? Yes. Doesn't everyone? Huq is the one who killed. This is all on him.
Thanks for your social commentary on this case. I'd like to know your opinion if the roles were reversed. You sound like a card carrying man-hater. Christine should have been sent to prison as an accessory after the fact. No ifs ands or buts about it. To those that argue otherwiese
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Necco's post is absolutely reasonable. Not sure where Necco comes off as a "card-carrying man hater."
Huq was the murderer, not Christine. She wasn't perfect, but she was no murderer.
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Necco's post is absolutely reasonable. Not sure where Necco comes off as a "card-carrying man hater."
Huq was the murderer, not Christine. She wasn't perfect, but she was no murderer.
I don't think anyone accused her of being a murderer? And no one said Huq is not responsible for his crime, and that's why he's paying for it. I don't think that's the source of the controversy in this thread.
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My gripe about her was that her story doesn't add up and she didn't tell the truth to the police. And then putting on the "poor me" act in the UM interview. Would also add that Todd's family was completely justified in their general attitude towards her.

That's why I can't join the "oh, she's full of ****, but who cares it's not like she killed anyone" chorus.
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I don't think that's the source of the controversy in this thread.
The source of the controversy in this thread is that Christie Mutzfeld represents the whore when she was expected to be the Madonna. A western problem of old.

She rebuffed her boyfriend's marriage proposal because "there were other things she wanted to do". She started dating another man--a dark-skinned, foreign man in majority-white northeast Indiana, at that. She broke up with same to reconcile with the boyfriend whose earlier marriage proposal she rebuffed, and in fact--gasp--had sex with him in a lakehouse after midnight.

Christie's story doesn't make sense if the coroner's determination that Todd was murdered around 3:15 AM is correct. But remember, this a coroner--not a medical examiner. A coroner need not be a board-certified forensic pathologist. Indeed, most of them absolutely are not even healthcare workers (let alone physicians), which has been a source of media attention and controversy over the past several years, and rightly so.

The coroner's assertion is the only thing that conflicts with Christie's story, as there exists no other evidence to suggest her story isn't true. Even the sheriff himself stated that there was "no hard evidence" to support Christie's involvement in the murder.

Christie Mutzfeld is still suspect in this thread because her sexual ethics are questionable under the traditional dictates of American society. It's the same reason why men like Larry Race are automatically assumed guilty--especially by women--before he even tells his story (despite what you believe on the veracity of that account): he cheated on his wife, multiple times. He must be guilty, because he's immoral. Oh, the judgemental hellfire that rains down, then, on the young woman who ends and begins relationships as easily as she changes underwear.
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Thanks for your social commentary on this case. I'd like to know your opinion if the roles were reversed. You sound like a card carrying man-hater. Christine should have been sent to prison as an accessory after the fact. No ifs ands or buts about it. To those that argue otherwiese
I think it's entirely possible that Larry Race is innocent of his wife's murder. Crappy husband? sure. Calculating murderer? I'm not convinced.

After reviewing my cards, I can confirm I am a card-carrying member of AAA, my health insurance plan, and a yacht club. I let my Man-Hater club membership lapse decades ago when I realized I didn't actually hate men.
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