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Old 06-09-2017, 06:52 PM   #76
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Watched this for the first time on Amazon and it never says whether Christie was involved or not
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Christie Mutzfeld is the type of girl who's not satisfied making only one man miserable, it has to be multiple men. She was definitely a witness to this murder. I totally understood Todd's family's disdain for her, with her "poor me, they're so mean to me" B.S. I'm sure she's actively ruining some other guy's life to this day
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Christie Mutzfeld is the type of girl who's not satisfied making only one man miserable, it has to be multiple men. She was definitely a witness to this murder. I totally understood Todd's family's disdain for her, with her "poor me, they're so mean to me" B.S. I'm sure she's actively ruining some other guy's life to this day


I have to say that I definitely think she was a witness to the murder. As to her propensity to make more than one man at a time miserable, I cannot say...

I definitely do not blame Todd's family for being as angry as they were, though. The whole thing was just senseless.
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Old 06-12-2017, 01:38 PM   #79
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I have to say that I definitely think she was a witness to the murder. As to her propensity to make more than one man at a time miserable, I cannot say...

I definitely do not blame Todd's family for being as angry as they were, though. The whole thing was just senseless.
I was about 18 when that movie came out - I was in love with her!
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I was about 18 when that movie came out - I was in love with her!
We're close in age, then. I was a sophomore in high school. I think I was just about to turn 16 the summer Clueless came out.
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We're close in age, then. I was a sophomore in high school. I think I was just about to turn 16 the summer Clueless came out.
In Summer of '95 I was 17. My job that summer was at a movie theater, I remember selling tickets to this. I'm turning 40 this year!
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In Summer of '95 I was 17. My job that summer was at a movie theater, I remember selling tickets to this. I'm turning 40 this year!

Crazy, I'm also turning 40 (also named Jon). When Clueless came out, I went with friends to see it at midnight and my one friend wanted a refund. I watched it a couple years ago and it didn't quite hold up as much as I hoped. Still great, just not as much as other movies from the era.

Back on topic, I always had a weird, uneasy feeling about Christie.
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Crazy, I'm also turning 40 (also named Jon). When Clueless came out, I went with friends to see it at midnight and my one friend wanted a refund. I watched it a couple years ago and it didn't quite hold up as much as I hoped. Still great, just not as much as other movies from the era.

Back on topic, I always had a weird, uneasy feeling about Christie.
Nice to see other 70s babies/80s kids on this board!

Christie was just scandalous. I don't feel bad bashing her because she is in no way a victim in this case. Once Mafuz snapped, the situation was out of control and she was powerless to stop it. Her only reaction was to cover her own butt.
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I don't know why it's a big deal that a woman her age juggled two lovers. "Promiscuous" or not (and would you call a man "promiscuous"?), that's college life, even if the young woman's living at home.
This. Just because someone has different morals doesn't mean that they weren't victimized. I've had women friends who were stalked by former lovers, and you can't underestimate the fear that this creates. Huq chose to stalk Mutzfeld and said that he would kill anyone who dated her; he didn't snap, he made the choice to murder Kelly because he was jealous of him.
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This. Just because someone has different morals doesn't mean that they weren't victimized.
Ok, fine, but why didn't she tell the truth about what happened?
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I have nothing to add in this thread other than the actor who played Huq was a hunk...the real Huq, not so much.
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Ok, fine, but why didn't she tell the truth about what happened?
Only Huq knows what the truth is; he still claims he killed Kelley in self-defense by the doorstep. Alternative facts and BS. I could imagine a scenario where he threatened her to the extent that she was a forced participant and/or was too terrified to reveal information, even years later, considering his whereabouts were unknown and he didn't have any hesitation about stalking her or stabbing her new boyfriend to death. Those two possibilities still don't make her a horrible person. He's never claimed that Mutzfeld was present at the murder or assisted him in the aftermath and there's never been any evidence that has turned up to support that theory. He apparently had access to a car and the cleanup and moving of Kelley's body *might* have resulted from an attempt to build a self defense claim or an abortive plan to remove the body from the house. This wasn't an impossible task to do by himself, even if he wasn't a body builder.

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I have nothing to add in this thread other than the actor who played Huq was a hunk...the real Huq, not so much.
Worth it's own thread. I nominate Megadeth guy and the actor who portrayed Richard Minns (Minns' ego won't allow anyone to be more attractive or smart than him).

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I have nothing to add in this thread other than the actor who played Huq was a hunk...the real Huq, not so much.
Its ok I love Jamieson Price. He played Leonard Dirikson.
He's got a **** ton of acting roles like The Patriot, but mainly LOTS of voiceover roles and his voice....my ovaries!
He's older but I guess im Lana del Rey and have daddy issues
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I am sure I am not alone thinking Christine came off as very unlike able and whiny. Also damn he lost his life for that!!!! Se that birds nest on her hair and that neediness in her voice. Tragic for the Kelly family. She probably did not do it but she should have dumped huk after finding out his shady past. Also Todd should have moved on after she just dumped him the first time.
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