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Old 03-22-2012, 09:23 AM   #46
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While researching some other stuff, I was surprised to discover that the state of New Mexico used to have a 15 year statute of limitations on even (1st degree, I think) murder. This was in recent history, maybe the 70s, early 80s?

They have since changed it to no statute of limitations on murder, which seems to be the law in most/all states now.

States are also changing their statutes of limitations on sexual assaults to either have no statute, much longer than 5 or 6 years which used to be common, or the clock starts running after they identify a suspect through a DNA match.

I started looking for info on this site: http://www.theforensicnurse.com/Rape...s_By_State.cfm and they got their stuff from The American Prosecutors Research Institute's National Center for the Prosecution of Violence Against Women, but the link provided on their site in 2006 is now bad.

The sexual assault laws are listed for each US state. From there, I looked up each state's compiled laws (websites vary by state) to find the info on statute on murders, etc.
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I think the friend was in denial. Even with medical knowledge, you can't necessarily save yourself from a botched procedure, particularly if she did have an allergic reaction or something along those lines.

I think the letter is legitimate.

The phone calls, whoever, I'm not sure. It really is creepy about the radio host's unlisted number being given out and then not long after, Omaha calls, and the "FBI" call.
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:01 PM   #48
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I've taught that phrase to my 4 year old daughter. How many toddlers do you know that know who Judy Himes is? Its nice to be raising another generation of UM fans.
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Old 04-20-2012, 02:48 PM   #49
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I think the friend was in denial. Even with medical knowledge, you can't necessarily save yourself from a botched procedure, particularly if she did have an allergic reaction or something along those lines.

I think the letter is legitimate.

The phone calls, whoever, I'm not sure. It really is creepy about the radio host's unlisted number being given out and then not long after, Omaha calls, and the "FBI" call.

Assuming the letter is legitimate, who could possibly have that knowledge of what happened to Judith Hymes?

How did he / she have come to know about this?

Unless the writer was once of those who worked in the Hadju's clinic or helped to dispose the body off the bay.

These are the only pple who could know the true fate of Judith Hymes. Who else is there?
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Assuming the letter is legitimate, who could possibly have that knowledge of what happened to Judith Hymes?

How did he / she have come to know about this?

Unless the writer was once of those who worked in the Hadju's clinic or helped to dispose the body off the bay.

These are the only pple who could know the true fate of Judith Hymes. Who else is there?
I think it definitely has to be a person working at the clinic or a friend of someone who was.
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I think the friend was in denial. Even with medical knowledge, you can't necessarily save yourself from a botched procedure, particularly if she did have an allergic reaction or something along those lines.

I think the letter is legitimate.

The phone calls, whoever, I'm not sure. It really is creepy about the radio host's unlisted number being given out and then not long after, Omaha calls, and the "FBI" call.

Agreed about the friend. Judith might have well known that she was in trouble, but if she was losing lots of blood, she probably would have been dependent on someone else to get her to a hospital. And well, this doctor probably wasn't in a hurry to implicate himself in performing illegal abortions.
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I posted on a thread a long time ago, I don't know if any of you guys have seen it or remember it, but I actually contacted marilyn, judiths friend who was interviewed in the segment, years ago. She told me that the letter was legitimate; the nurse who was present that day for the abortion wrote it and talked to the police. The case is closed and she was declared legally dead.
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I posted on a thread a long time ago, I don't know if any of you guys have seen it or remember it, but I actually contacted marilyn, judiths friend who was interviewed in the segment, years ago. She told me that the letter was legitimate; the nurse who was present that day for the abortion wrote it and talked to the police. The case is closed and she was declared legally dead.
Interesting. I didn't see that in the other thread. It's kind of moot now but I wish the nurse could have said who got rid of Judith's car and why did he abandon it 700 miles away in a Atlanta neighborhood.
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I posted on a thread a long time ago, I don't know if any of you guys have seen it or remember it, but I actually contacted marilyn, judiths friend who was interviewed in the segment, years ago. She told me that the letter was legitimate; the nurse who was present that day for the abortion wrote it and talked to the police. The case is closed and she was declared legally dead.


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I was re-watching this segment recently and I caught something that may be nothing. When the detective that received the mysterious phone calls is being interviewed, he says:

"Well now I'm confused. I don't know what to think. Why would a 25 year old case surface out of Omaha, NE, when in fact I had never been to Omaha before in my life prior to this time. I have no knowledge about this case. I never mentioned the case whatsoever the whole time we were out there for the simple fact that I didn't know anything about the case to give anybody any information or anything."

He says he has ever been to Omaha before and never mentioned the case to anyone when he was down there. So which is it? Sure he went there after the calls but when he went there he DEFINITELY spoke about the case because that was the whole reason for him being there. His statement doesn't make sense.
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I was re-watching this segment recently and I caught something that may be nothing. When the detective that received the mysterious phone calls is being interviewed, he says:

"Well now I'm confused. I don't know what to think. Why would a 25 year old case surface out of Omaha, NE, when in fact I had never been to Omaha before in my life prior to this time. I have no knowledge about this case. I never mentioned the case whatsoever the whole time we were out there for the simple fact that I didn't know anything about the case to give anybody any information or anything."

He says he has ever been to Omaha before and never mentioned the case to anyone when he was down there. So which is it? Sure he went there after the calls but when he went there he DEFINITELY spoke about the case because that was the whole reason for him being there. His statement doesn't make sense.
I think it was established that Captain Scherer had traveled to Omaha to deliver a lecture at a police academy shortly before the calls started. When he stated he'd never been to Omaha before "this time", he was referring to the lecture.

I'm sure it can't be a coincidence that Scherer started receiving those calls mentioning Ohama almost immediately after he returned from there, so whoever made them probably knew that he'd given that lecture. But it's still pretty random that such an obscure cold case would be brought to his attention like that after being forgotten for 25 years.
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I think it was established that Captain Scherer had traveled to Omaha to deliver a lecture at a police academy shortly before the calls started. When he stated he'd never been to Omaha before "this time", he was referring to the lecture.

I'm sure it can't be a coincidence that Scherer started receiving those calls mentioning Ohama almost immediately after he returned from there, so whoever made them probably knew that he'd given that lecture. But it's still pretty random that such an obscure cold case would be brought to his attention like that after being forgotten for 25 years.
I think another poster (The Cars?) pointed out that either a newspaper or a magazine article had been written about cold missing persons cases (including Hyams) and been nationally distributed in the months prior to Scherer's lecture in Omaha. Thus, it's possible someone in Omaha who read the article called Scherer in Florida with the information because they knew he was connected to the same police department that investigated the Hyams case back in the 1960s.

As to the specific information relayed about Hyams being alive, the caller may have known someone in Omaha who was a ringer whom they legitimately suspected may have been Hyams, or the calls could have been an outright hoax/joke.

In any event, I think this theory is the most likely explanation for the calls.
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I think it was established that Captain Scherer had traveled to Omaha to deliver a lecture at a police academy shortly before the calls started. When he stated he'd never been to Omaha before "this time", he was referring to the lecture.

I'm sure it can't be a coincidence that Scherer started receiving those calls mentioning Ohama almost immediately after he returned from there, so whoever made them probably knew that he'd given that lecture. But it's still pretty random that such an obscure cold case would be brought to his attention like that after being forgotten for 25 years.
I don't remember him saying that he had been to Omaha recently for a lecture. If that's the case, it clears up my questions.
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I always thought it was funny (not funny haha) that Judy's friend discounted the possibility that she died during a botched abortion because she "had medical knowledge". That reasoning made no sense.
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I think another poster (The Cars?) pointed out that either a newspaper or a magazine article had been written about cold missing persons cases (including Hyams) and been nationally distributed in the months prior to Scherer's lecture in Omaha. Thus, it's possible someone in Omaha who read the article called Scherer in Florida with the information because they knew he was connected to the same police department that investigated the Hyams case back in the 1960s.
Ah, if the Hyams case was featured in a missing persons article shortly before the phone calls, that would shed a lot of light on this situation. In the pre-Internet world of 1990, it normally would have been a hell of a lot more difficult for someone on Omaha to obtain information about an obscure 25-year old cold case from Florida.

Personally, I've always found the baffling element of this segment to be how the caller initially pretended to be an Omaha radio host and provided Captain Scherer with the host's unlisted home number. The host then claimed only a handful of people knew his number and didn't think any of them were the kind of people who impersonate him to phone the police. Bizarre !
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