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Old 10-22-2008, 03:34 PM   #31
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I'm 99.9% sure the letter is legitimate, but there's still a tiny speculative voice in me that doesn't let me go the other .1%. Judy signed herself in at the doctor's office where she was scheduled for a pregnancy test as "B. Kenney." I wonder if she was in fact living in Omaha under that name, or perhaps some other assumed one, and someone was aware of it. It might be something of a stretch, but it was something I immediately considered when watching the segment the first time.
I tend to believe the scenario put forth in the letter. The fact that her car was found abandoned and that there was blood in it are not good signs.

I also wonder if someone who was involved in Judith's disappearance in '65 felt guilty years later. Not guilty enough to come forward and turn themselves in, but guilty enough to make phone calls to a random officer from Coral Gables in hopes of reopening the investigation or at least getting the police to arrest Hadju. I think the claim that "Judith Himes is alive" would generate more attention then a call to report "Judith Himes is dead" since the police probably assumed that anyway...

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I also wonder if someone who was involved in Judith's disappearance in '65 felt guilty years later. Not guilty enough to come forward and turn themselves in, but guilty enough to make phone calls to a random officer from Coral Gables in hopes of reopening the investigation or at least getting the police to arrest Hadju. I think the claim that "Judith Himes is alive" would generate more attention then a call to report "Judith Himes is dead" since the police probably assumed that anyway...
True. I always thought the letter could've been written by an associate or clerical worker at Hadju's office---someone who was close to the situation, but not necessarily the guilty party. Maybe even someone who helped dispose of the body.

(Speaking of which, it seems very plausible to me that Judy's rental car was probably used to transport her body to Biscayne Bay. It would explain the blood as well as the unidentified man seen walking away from it. But why leave it abandoned with blatant blood stains in the backseat, knowing that when it was impounded it would be traced back to a missing woman? That part I don't get.)
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Yeah, if she was using an assumed name, why rent the car in her name and then just leave it to be found?
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I just rewatched this case for the first time in probably 15 years. For some reason this is probably the segment that has stuck in my mind from UM more than any else. Judy Himes is alive and she is living in Omaha....gives me the creeps everytime. Such a sad way to go too
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Does anyone remember the "one post wonder" who stated very matter of factly that the anonymous letter was written by a nurse who assisted in the abortion? This person was then asked how hey possessed this knowledge and they never responded. I have tried to find the post in all the Judith Hyams/Himes threads with no luck so far.
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Does anyone remember the "one post wonder" who stated very matter of factly that the anonymous letter was written by a nurse who assisted in the abortion? This person was then asked how hey possessed this knowledge and they never responded.
This thread mentions that letter and the poster (still active here, I think) never answered the question regarding how her friend, the source of her info, knew for certain that the letter really was from a nurse who was present at Judith's appointment with Hadju.

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if it was true it would certainly be interesting to find that out before the authorities lol
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(Speaking of which, it seems very plausible to me that Judy's rental car was probably used to transport her body to Biscayne Bay. It would explain the blood as well as the unidentified man seen walking away from it. But why leave it abandoned with blatant blood stains in the backseat, knowing that when it was impounded it would be traced back to a missing woman? That part I don't get.)
I watched this on the forbidden site today and was asking the very same questions in regards to the car. Not just the fact that the man made no attempt to clean the blood in the back seat but the fact that he drove it 650 miles to a residential neighborhood in Atlanta.

My guess is that Hadju wanted the car to be found with the blood in hopes that people would think Judith met with foul play. Still, that's a long distance from Coral Gables to be found.
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I watched this on the forbidden site today and was asking the very same questions in regards to the car. Not just the fact that the man made no attempt to clean the blood in the back seat but the fact that he drove it 650 miles to a residential neighborhood in Atlanta.

My guess is that Hadju wanted the car to be found with the blood in hopes that people would think Judith met with foul play. Still, that's a long distance from Coral Gables to be found.

Does anybody ever considered that Captain Sheer could be making things up?


Isnt it weird for him to be the only one to be receiving all these anonymous phone calls?


This case wouldnt have resurfaced if not for Captain Sheer.

No one can verify whether he did receive any weird calls regarding Judith Hymes or not.

And if he is indeed lying, God knows what his motives are.

Your guess is as good as mine.
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Does anybody ever considered that Captain Sheer could be making things up?


Isnt it weird for him to be the only one to be receiving all these anonymous phone calls?


This case wouldnt have resurfaced if not for Captain Sheer.

No one can verify whether he did receive any weird calls regarding Judith Hymes or not.

And if he is indeed lying, God knows what his motives are.

Your guess is as good as mine.

I don't think Captain Sheer made it up. I always thought he seemed genuine and perplexed in his UM interview as to why someone would call him about the case seemingly out of the blue. Also, Sheer didn't have a vested interest in the outcome.

My gut feeling is that the phone calls were either a weird prank. Or, possibly someone with some legitimate info on the Hyams case was trying to get it reopened or get some new exposure. Since Sheer did get a call from someone who knew Hadju's actual phone number, I tend to think the latter.
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I don't think Captain Sheer made it up. I always thought he seemed genuine and perplexed in his UM interview as to why someone would call him about the case seemingly out of the blue. Also, Sheer didn't have a vested interest in the outcome.

My gut feeling is that the phone calls were either a weird prank. Or, possibly someone with some legitimate info on the Hyams case was trying to get it reopened or get some new exposure. Since Sheer did get a call from someone who knew Hadju's actual phone number, I tend to think the latter.
Yeah strange that, if they did actually trace down Hadju why didn't that matter go any further?
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Yeah strange that, if they did actually trace down Hadju why didn't that matter go any further?
Sheer said that the statute of limitations had expired, so I would imagine that they couldn't legally charge Hadju with anything. Also, I think Hadju was only a "person of interest" in Hyams' disappearance, but it was mentioned that he was living in Hungary(?). Probably not much they could do to get him to come back to the US, in any event.
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Sheer said that the statute of limitations had expired, so I would imagine that they couldn't legally charge Hadju with anything. Also, I think Hadju was only a "person of interest" in Hyams' disappearance, but it was mentioned that he was living in Hungary(?). Probably not much they could do to get him to come back to the US, in any event.


"Statues of Limitations has expired" is such a lame thing to say. Total bureaucratic bullsh1t.

Why reopen a case when no one can be prosecuted at all? Whats the point in all that? What purpose does it serve?

If i know if shes dead, and i know who killed her, I'll be sure to keep my mouth shut since I know theres nothing u can do to arrest the guy who did it.

No one will be so stupid to tell on whoever that did it ! God knows what he'll do to me if I spill the beans on him.
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"Statues of Limitations has expired" is such a lame thing to say. Total bureaucratic bullsh1t.

Why reopen a case when no one can be prosecuted at all? Whats the point in all that? What purpose does it serve?

If i know if shes dead, and i know who killed her, I'll be sure to keep my mouth shut since I know theres nothing u can do to arrest the guy who did it.

No one will be so stupid to tell on whoever that did it ! God knows what he'll do to me if I spill the beans on him.

If it was a murder, then I don't think the statute of limitations hasn't expired. If, however, the statements made in the anonymous letter about an accidental death from an allergic reaction during an abortion are true, then the statute of limitations may have, in fact, run out. The statement about the statute of limitations expiring was said in reference to the letter writer to get them to come forward. It may be possible that prosecution of Hadju is still a possibility as he was "posing" as a physician and subsequently caused Judy's death if the letter is genuine.

Off topic, why would you be afraid of what the person would do to you if you came forward? If the police can't prosecute him why should he come after you?
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Also, there's the issue of extradition. The US signed their extradition with Hungary in 1994 and it took effect in 1997. So, at the time they received the information, they could do little with it.

But since the doctor jumped bail for the impersonating a physician charges, prosecution had begun, so, at least, by today's standards, the statute of limitations wouldn't apply.
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