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Old 10-24-2005, 01:05 PM   #16
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Hey JimmyHendricks do you have any additional info about who was stalking Mikki? They made it sound like it was a spouse or a boyfriend of a friend and she was trying to help the friend out. They said she was threatened and even followed by this person. Did it turn out to be the guy who killed her? I wouldn't think it was since the Earvin guy arrested for her murder also admitted to killing 2 other women. A serial killer type perhaps which may make Mikki's murder a random act of violence. Also was Mikki's body ever found? They didn't mention it in the update. Thanks!
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:21 PM   #17
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This is just such a great case and really one of the best in showing how great of a show "production wise" UM could be. The way they put this thing together is so creepy, for example when Mikki is walking down the street and she steps onto the curb and they make it look like she just vanished into thin air. Man in 1989 there was nothing to touch this show on television in terms of production.

Really enjoying these cases they are showing

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Old 10-24-2005, 03:10 PM   #18
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crystal, I'm not too sure. To be honest, almost all the info I know about this case comes from the UM segment. I've tried to look up info through the KC Star newspaper with no luck.

I might go to the library and see if I can dig anything up.
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Old 10-24-2005, 03:13 PM   #19
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You're right on, DarkDante. I watch these old episodes now and marvel at how skillful the production is.

One of my favorites was the Greg Webb/Anna Anton murder segment. There's one part where they have a confrontation in one of their apartments, and the door S L O W L Y closes as the arguement gets more intense. Of course, knowing what happened to Anna after that door closed made it all the more chilling.
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Old 10-26-2005, 01:23 AM   #20
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I always wondered if he felt guilty about the murders and wanted to get caught. You hear sometimes of people saying if they don't get caught they're afraid they'll do it again. Clearly writing letters with his own name in them after the case was considered cold is a cry for help, in my opinion. I wonder if he led them to her body. Also I also wondered, they said at the beginning of the case that Mikki I believe was involved with helping a friend with marital problems (something like that) and was being harassed and receiving death threats. They also said the man that confessed to her murder was considered a suspect early on. I wonder if he was the same person who had been threatening her. Even her sister said she thought she knew who killed Mikki and she thought she knew why they killed her. Do you think the confessed killer could have been married to the friend Mikki was helping out??
What I've read would suggest something different...
The types of personalities who commit random murders are such that they get a charge (usually an actual sexual charge) out of their murders. This is accompanied by a rush of godlike power; taunting the police and coming close to getting caught add to both of these.
It's important to note that this doesn't happen overnight. It's what happens when an abnormal personality tries to come to terms with normal impulses. That is, where a normal young male might enjoy looking at a naked woman, and be content to leave it at that, an abnormal personality (usually fostered by abuse or trauma at a young age) needs an extra "kick" to feel stimulated. The kicks start out as relatively harmless, but soon take on a dangerous character. So when looking at naked women in magazines doesn't cut it anymore, it's on to bondage or S/M magazines. Then it's on to more violent stimuli. Soon, the kick can only be sustained by acting out the violent acts, and finally... you have a psychopathic murderer on your hands. This has been documented time and again in studies of the most dangerous murderers.
Having said all of this, it would not surprise me at all if some of the perpetrators of these crimes get a big kick out of seeing us talk about them in these posts. In fact, I would venture to say that some of these people have actually posted here.
Two good books about these ideas are Whoever Fights Monsters and Alone With the Devil. There have been some valid criticisms of each, but they're pretty insightful. I don't recommend reading them when you're alone in your house at night.
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Old 10-26-2005, 11:44 AM   #21
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What I've read would suggest something different...
The types of personalities who commit random murders are such that they get a charge (usually an actual sexual charge) out of their murders. This is accompanied by a rush of godlike power; taunting the police and coming close to getting caught add to both of these.
I'm not a forensic psychologist and I don't have the data to back this up, but I'd be more willing to believe Crystaldawn's theory in this case. We know from cases like the Zodiac and Dennis Rader how rare it is for killers to truly engage in a cat and mouse game trying to taunt and outsmart the police and instill fear in the public. From his anonymous letters, it didn't seem like Mikki's killer was trying to do that. Even the investigator said that the letter writer was very afraid of the killer. The letter writer never threatened anyone. There are other cases (e.g., the "weepy voiced killer") in which ambivalent serial killers would contact police saying that the police had to stop them because they were afraid they'd kill again, yet they would not actually turn themselves in.
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right, you can't say that the pattern i described fits all murderers. in fact, i never saw the case this thread is about. just thought i'd throw it out, because it can explain why perps often get involved with the case in some way. It doesn't have to be a spectacular terrorizing of the public. i've read several cases in which the killers are in the search teams, help put up flyers, etc. Of course, this is also to stay updated as to the progress of the investigation.

as for those 'stop me before i kill again' types, it seems possible that someone could be psychopathically murderous and be shocked at their own behavior. berkowitz, after all, allegedly sat calmly in his car when the police busted him, saying, "What took you guys so long?" Of course, he also overtly taunted the police and (if I remember correctly) got sexually excited by his crimes.

my point is (and I'm not a psychologist either), you can often spot indicators of developing (or maybe just dormant?) psychopathology. sexual abuse at a young age, for example, is a dangerous mix with certain personality types (and is deplorable in any case). i've thought of people i've known--people who are abnormally into gory or movies and/or hardcore porn, for example--and said to myself, "thank god this person wasn't abused as a kid." Just my opinion.
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Old 10-27-2005, 04:18 AM   #23
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Hmmmm, the repeating is what interests me, I wonder, if Lifetime is going in some sort of pattern? Last aired in February and now eight months later, airing again. Has anyone noticed any patterns?
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There is a very loose pattern - Being that they air "blocks" of old episodes followed by "blocks" of new episodes. From 6/05-8/05 they only seemed to air for the most part older episodes. However you'll notice when the "old" episodes again returned this past week they started with a case from January 18, 1989 which is where they left off in 4/05 when during I believe an entire week period they aired all of the cases from October 12, 1988 (this is the first "non special" episode that "Lifetime" has aired in it's entirety and the second episode of the show as a regular series featuring D.B. Cooper and The Boys On The Tracks) up to the one featuring the disappearance of Michael Rosenblum (January, 11, 1989)
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Old 02-10-2007, 10:29 AM   #25
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I am Micki Jo West's aunt. I googled her name just for the heck of it and was surprised to find so much information - and interest - but none since 10/05. Anyone still interested? I would like to see the Unsolved Mysteries episode again (I lost my copy in a fire). I'd also like to hear from anyone who is still interested in this case, or who has any information.

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I am Micki Jo West's aunt. I googled her name just for the heck of it and was surprised to find so much information - and interest - but none since 10/05. Anyone still interested? I would like to see the Unsolved Mysteries episode again (I lost my copy in a fire). I'd also like to hear from anyone who is still interested in this case, or who has any information.

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Hi - nice to have you posting! One of the most interesting UM cases in my opinion. I would be happy to send you a copy of the segment if you'll pm me your address. I have a lot of questions about this case that UM didn't answer. I know that someone confessed to her murder and was convicted. Was Mikki's body ever found? UM didn't mention if it was. They also mentioned in the UM segment that Mikki had helped a friend and was getting some grief over it, is the man responsible for her death involved in that scenario? I got the impression Mikki was helping a friend who was going through some trouble in her marriage but I can't remember what was said for certain. She did also believe that she was being followed. I was curious if the police think the murderer was the one following her. I do assume he was the one who wrote the notes as a strange way of possibly trying to confess. Any more info you can give us on this case would be appreciated.
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Old 02-10-2007, 09:26 PM   #27
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This case isn't ringing a bell for me....CrystalDawn, is this case included in any of your DVD sets?
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^ I'm sure Crystaldawn included it somewhere its also on my "Unsurpassed Mysteries Volume 6" collection.
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This case isn't ringing a bell for me....CrystalDawn, is this case included in any of your DVD sets?
Yes its on volume 1.
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Old 05-09-2007, 11:01 PM   #30
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I'am a first timer but I'am from St. Joseph, MO where Mikki Jo disappeared in 1979. As I remember, she was working at a local hospital and took the bus to work. She was receiving threats from her girlfriend's husband and her family knew of these threats. Her girlfriend was thinking of leaving her husband {who was black ** and he considered it a threat as Mikki Jo was on her friend's side. He left letter's in KC at a shopping mall and her family suspected him all along but did'nt have enough proof. Some time passed and he killed two other women from St. Joe and buried them on his families farm. He eventually confessed to all three murders and showed the police where he buried them. He was convicted of all three murders and is incarcerated at a prison in the area I'am not sure where. I think his name was Marvin Lee Irvin. Hope this brings everyone up to date on what happened.
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