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Old 09-10-2004, 07:56 PM   #1
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Exclamation Justin Burgwinkel Aired 9/10/04

Today, the sad story of Justin Burgwinkel aired. A young man who joined the military, and disappeared under VERY strange circumstances. NEVER to be heard from or seen again. Leaving only a movie reference as a clue. Justin reference the movie WHITE SANDS, in which a small southwestern town sheriff finds a body in the desert with a suitcase and $500,000. He impersonates the man and stumbles into an FBI investigation

Apparently Justin had been acting strange, leaving at a moments notice, skipping out on important dates, only to rush off with a brief case.

After he disappeared his parents flew to from MA to CA where his car was found at an out of the way motel near the ocean. Locked in his trunk was his brief case. Only containing his wallet, which contained his credit cards, license, military ID, and his dog tags.
His mother appeared on UM and stated that she received NO help from the military, police, or anyone else. Not even anyone he served with would help.

He had previously told his g/f that if she ever found his dog tags lying around, that meant he was dead.

Im hoping some others saw this story or remember it from a previous airing. Ive searched and cant seem to find any information anywhere OTHER than on a website called burgwinkel.com which is a journal of a man named Joe Burgwinkel. BUT under the journal date of Novemeber 10 2003 the entry reads: paranoia big destroia- Why is the Department of Defense searching my site for the name 'justin'? Maybe they were looking for Justice, but they don't know how to spell it.

I know Im probably sounding ridiculous at this point, but does anyone else besides me think its strange that the Dept. of Defense is searching for this mans name? IN 2003!
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Yes, I remember that story very well! That is so interesting that the Department of Defense is searching! Another thing I find unusual is that I couldn't find anything with his name in it on the web! Its unusual that a case that isn't super old comes around where there is no information listed. You would think at least on a missing person website. Interesting.

By the way, if anyone has any better luck finding out any more on Justin Burgwinkel, please post. It would be interesting if any more is known on his mysterious disappearance.
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Thanks CrystalDawn for corroborating my point of interest in that the Dept of Defense is searching for him on the web in 2003. After I started that topic I felt a bit silly for a moment, that I was reading into the Dept of Defense search.
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Thanks CrystalDawn for corroborating my point of interest in that the Dept of Defense is searching for him on the web in 2003. After I started that topic I felt a bit silly for a moment, that I was reading into the Dept of Defense search.

It's not silly at all. When I saw that episode I found the info about DoD too. I even emailed Joe but got no response. Seems interesting that the sniper John Muhammad was stationed at Fort Ord and then Fort Lewis at the same times as Burgwinkel and then when info was being gathered for Muhammad's trial a search is conducted at this website. If Burgwinkel disappeared ten years ago, the Army would have that under records, right? Why search for his name?

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Thank you! Those are my exact thoughts. They would have that information on FILE!!! Why in the world would they have to look it up!
I also emailed Joe, but got no response. If you do get a response I would be very interested in hearing what he has to say about it.
Its all very suspicious to me. Im glad you responded!
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I did some more research. It seems that the ip ranges do belong to DoD, but some people have been using them for spam or spoofing. Google "room BF655A" and you'll see what I'm talking about. It's weird, several people have said they contacted the department about receiving spam or several hits per day from these number blocks and nothing has ever been done.
Regarding Joe's site, he's using Movable Type for his blog, which would account for him being targeted. My question would be: If it's someone using as a spoof, why would they use a .mil site to search for Justin Burgwinkel (maybe they saw the Unsolved Mysteries segment and were curious?)

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WOW. Ok, how very interesting. Big brother may actually be watching. I did the search and found some very interesting stuff. From what Ive read, most ppl think that room BF655A is a spoof. But quite honestly I dont know about that. Im definatly going to continue reading everything that Ive found because I find it so interesting.

Are the specific websites listed being targeted by the Pentagon with pornographic postings? Only one was suffering from pornographic postings, whilst another suffered a security loophole exploitation. I don't know if it is the Pentagon, but it is certainly worthy of further investigation.


Is it possible that the Pentagon would do such a thing? Of course it's possible. The office in question is the Defense Information Systems Agency, but also listed under the IP lookup is the Defense Logistics Agency Special Studies Office. Maybe this is considered a "special study?"


As I was reading I came across one article of interest that makes some very good points. How and why would the military let someone spoof their name? Why would people want to be involved in spoofing the identity of a government office such as Room BF655A, it would be a pretty brainless thing to do. The military would obviously have offices which look at what information is available in the public domain - you would expect them to be on the look-out for any type of a breach of security.

This is just some of the info I came across. very ineteresting to say the least.

Please keep me updated... Ill do the same. Im off to read some more info on this!

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So I just saw the episode on Lifetime in a rerun today. It sparked my interest as well. There dosen't appear to be any new information on the internet. Has anyone else had any luck finding anything?
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I couldn't find anything on the net either. I did talk with someone several months ago who knew Justin and had attended basic training with him. If I remember correctly he said he had been in contact with Justin's parents and he was still missing.
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How can there be websites online about someone's military record from the civil war and potentially earlier, but no information about one soldier who was either mentally unstable or a part of some sort of secretive organization (weather it be military, criminal, governmental, etc)?
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i saw this episode today and could not find any info on this in our local news databanks (i live in santa cruz.. right between santa clara and Fort ord... nothing...
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Burgwinkel's actor was magical in the reenactment.
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Well I have watched this case and I dont know what to make of it. Honestly it reeks of yet another coverup by the government. I think American's like to think our government tells us everything but this is kind of the opposite of how it actually is. I think Justin was involved in some stuff and I think the pressure of it right was getting to him, hence the time when his girlfriend found him sobbing in a room and stuff. I also find that fishy how a guy that is missing has absouletely zero websites on him. I think all of this is just very strange. But there is more to this story. I dont think it was just Justin having problems. I think he may have had emotional issues but I think they were caused by whatever he was involved in it that was just too much for him. Clearly Justin was afraid of someone or something considering he bought two pistols. This is such a strange case. Anyone else have any thoughts?
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I think it is possible that Justin disappeared initially on his own. It did seem like he was involved in something thus the phone call from the unknown man saying "the mission is off" but its also possible that Justin was having some sort of mental issue that resulted in his extreme paranoia. It doesn't seem like he was taken abruptly and seemed like he disappeared on his own if he did indeed park his car there. I did mention earlier in this post that I had spoken with someone who went through basic training with Justin and said he had spoken with his parents previously and he was still missing. He also said that Justin certainly did not seem like the type to be involved in anything covert but also said that if anyone was capable of disappearing and never being found it would be him. One of the great UM's because there's no clear cut answer and it could go either way. I do hope that his parents can someday get some answers about what happened to him.
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I think Justin pretty obviously suffered some a severe mental breakdown. I'm not a doctor, so perhaps I shouldn't speculate, but there are just a few things about his case that strongly suggest to me that he was coming apart at the seams:

1) The fact that the guy made it a goal to get into the army rangers his whole life, but found himself on kitchen duty. He surely sounded like someone who had made being an army ranger the be all and end all of his existence, and for someone like that to be denied his dream --- and to be put on something as demeaning as kitchen duty instead, traditionally (and probably even in this case, since he had been dismissed from ranger training for his participation in a shoplifting ring) used as a punishment within the armed services --- it must have constituted not only a severe one-time blow to his ego but also a gnawing problem as his conscription there continued.

2) The business with the briefcase. When his girlfriend saw him just tearing up pieces of paper out of the briefcase, that to me screamed "mentally unstable." I've seen things like this first hand --- compulsive tearing of paper is often a sign that there is really something wrong with a person, not the thing they are tearing. They've read something into a photograph, a document, etc., that is not there, and are trying to destroy it and consequently their own inner demons.

The idea that a guy like Private Burgwinkel had anything to do with any high-level operation is patently absurd --- I'm sure the army, the CIA, and the FBI are not in the habit of using army ranger wash-outs as high level operatives. I doubt they would keep their secrets very long if they did. And the oblique reference to White Sands only furthers, in my mind, that this kid was losing his grip on reality. Hollywood films and actual covert operations share the same relationship as "Made for TV" biographical movies and the actual lives of the people they claim to be about, I'm sure.

I do hope they find him someday, because I truly wonder where he could have gone, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was homeless and unidentified somewhere at this point - he may not even be aware of who he is anymore, and I'm not normally a big believer in amnesia. In this case, however, I really do think there was something seriously, degeneratively wrong with the kid's mind.
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