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Old 06-01-2017, 01:50 AM   #16
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Fascinating case. Pull up the mountain on google maps and look at the altitude detail on the topo map. There is some question, and it has never been specified WHERE exactly he was last seen, Where the candy wrappers and camera were found.

The following is from the China Lake Mountain rescue group #87 dated Dec 91:

"91-14 7/28/91 Search

San Gorgonio Huey
CLMRG was placed on alert on Thursday 25 July, by Sierra Madre Search and Rescue Team for the possibility of assisting in the search for Jared Negrete, who had been lost since July 19. Jared was last seen on July 19, at approximately 1800 near the head of Vivian Creek Trail and the Old San bernardino Peak Trail on San Gorgonio Mountain. He was hiking with his scout troop and had lagged behind. Over 200 personnel were participating in the search. CLMRG was not called to participate for Saturday and Sunday.
CLMRG personnel who were on standby included: Huey, Schafhauser, Silverman, Stogsdill, Wilson. S. Walker, Leiser, Jain, L. Lucas. J. Westbrook coordinated.
CLMRG was called at 1700 on Sunday night to send a technical team to the area on Monday, 7/28. A camera and food wrappers belonging to Jared had been found Saturday, but no other clues were discovered. The location of these items led searchers into a rough stream bed with a difficult rock
section.

CLMRG and Sierra Madre units were assigned this area on Monday morning and thoroughly covered the area between the trail and opposite side of the stream. The technical area was covered as best could be, keeping in mind the safety of the searchers. CLMRG members had to return to work Tuesday.
Participants included: Huey, Finco, S. Walker, Roseman, Wilson and J. Westbrook (Coordinator)."

From the Los Angeles times, (c) July 23, 1991

Searchers Comb Mountain for Scout Lost Since Friday
The Los Angeles Times (Pre-1997 Fulltext); Los Angeles, Calif.; Jul 23, 1991; JESSE KATZ;

Search and rescue teams continued to comb the rugged San Bernardino National Forest Monday for a 13-year-old El Monte Boy Scout lost in the wilderness since Friday.
Jared Negrete, who was on his first overnight backpacking trip, was last seen Friday at about 6 p.m. when he fell behind his fellow Scouts on a hike to the summit of 11,500-foot Mt. San Gorgonio. The eighth-grader, who is 5 feet 2 inches tall and 150 pounds, was wearing green pants and a tan shirt and was carrying a two-quart canteen of water.
"He's young, very shy, a little bit overweight and was allowed to get a little behind the others," said Frank Barney, a bishop at El Monte's Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which sponsors Boy Scout Troop No. 538.
Another group of hikers spotted Jared straggling behind and notified the troop leader at the mountain summit, Barney said. But the leader, an experienced backpacker, said he would pick up Jared on the way down, Barney said. A Boy Scouts of America spokesman said he hadn't been fully briefed on the incident and was trying to determine whether the troop leader had been negligent.
"Obviously we would be concerned if proper safety procedure was not in fact followed," said Mike Bassett, director of support services for the 387 troops in the Boy Scouts' San Gabriel Valley Council. As soon as the troop leader realized that Jared had strayed, he accompanied his five other Scouts back to the base camp and then hiked about five miles in the darkness to summon help. San Bernardino County sheriff's deputies, along with search and rescue teams from as far away as Sierra Madre and San Dimas, began searching a 130-square mile swath of the San Gorgonio Wilderness, a jagged, rocky terrain about 17 miles northeast of Redlands.
By Monday their search was focused on a six-square mile area, where a print believed to match one of Jared's high-top tennis shoes was found. At least 70 officers, some of whom were airlifted by helicopter into the dense evergreen forest, tramped through the brush until dusk but there were no more clues. The search was scheduled to resume again today at dawn.
Low temperatures have been around 50 degrees, and officers said that there was sufficient water in the mountains as a result of recent storms.
"They're checking every crack and crevice-anywhere that a 13-year-old boy would go," said Deputy Debra Dorrough.
"We're reasonably confident he can survive." Byline: JESSE KATZ
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Searchers Comb Mountain for Scout Lost Since Friday

The Los Angeles Times (c)(Pre-1997 Fulltext); Los Angeles, Calif.; Jul 23, 1991; JESSE KATZ;

Search and rescue teams continued to comb the rugged San Bernardino National Forest Monday for a 13-year-old El Monte Boy Scout lost in the wilderness since Friday.
Jared Negrete, who was on his first overnight backpacking trip, was last seen Friday at about 6 p.m. when he fell behind his fellow Scouts on a hike to the summit of 11,500-foot Mt. San Gorgonio.
The eighth-grader, who is 5 feet 2 inches tall and 150 pounds, was wearing green pants and a tan shirt and was carrying a two-quart canteen of water.
"He's young, very shy, a little bit overweight and was allowed to get a little behind the others," said Frank Barney, a bishop at El Monte's Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which sponsors Boy Scout Troop No. 538.
Another group of hikers spotted Jared straggling behind and notified the troop leader at the mountain summit, Barney said. But the leader, an experienced backpacker, said he would pick up Jared on the way down, Barney said.
A Boy Scouts of America spokesman said he hadn't been fully briefed on the incident and was trying to determine whether the troop leader had been negligent.
"Obviously we would be concerned if proper safety procedure was not in fact followed," said Mike Bassett, director of support services for the 387 troops in the Boy Scouts' San Gabriel Valley Council.
As soon as the troop leader realized that Jared had strayed, he accompanied his five other Scouts back to the base camp and then hiked about five miles in the darkness to summon help. San Bernardino County sheriff's deputies, along with search and rescue teams from as far away as Sierra Madre and San Dimas, began searching a 130-square mile swath of the San Gorgonio Wilderness, a jagged, rocky terrain about 17 miles northeast of Redlands.
By Monday their search was focused on a six-square mile area, where a print believed to match one of Jared's high-top tennis shoes was found. At least 70 officers, some of whom were airlifted by helicopter into the dense evergreen forest, tramped through the brush until dusk but there were no more clues. The search was scheduled to resume again today at dawn.
Low temperatures have been around 50 degrees, and officers said that there was sufficient water in the mountains as a result of recent storms.
"They're checking every crack and crevice-anywhere that a 13-year-old boy would go," said Deputy Debra Dorrough. "We're reasonably confident he can survive."
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Trail Grows Faint in Search for Boy Scout Wilderness: Efforts to find the 12-year-old will continue into next week, deputies say. Water and resources in area are considered adequate for survival.

The Los Angeles Times (Pre-1997 Fulltext); Los Angeles, Calif.; Jul 27, 1991; EDMUND NEWTON;

Tracks have grown faint in treacherous rock chutes and footprints have led nowhere. It has been more than a week since 12-year-old Jared Negrete disappeared in the San Bernardino Mountains. But hopes, though growing dimmer, are still alive among the searchers picking through the rocky wilderness in search of the El Monte Boy Scout.
The effort pressed ahead Friday, with 150 volunteers moving slowly through a 45-square-mile target area around the 11,500-foot San Gorgonio Mountain.
"There's plenty of water up there," said San Bernardino County firefighter Bill Garcia, who has spent 14 to 18 hours a day on the search since Monday. "There are even fish in some of the creeks. With a little ingenuity, there are enough resources to live off of. If he keeps his wits, he should be able to get by."
San Bernardino Sheriff's Deputy Debra Dorrough said that the search effort will be carried on through the weekend and into next week.
But some involved in the rescue effort conceded privately that the odds of finding the youth grow worse with each passing day.
Jared's mother, Linda Negrete, awaiting word at her El Monte home, expressed faith that the boy was still alive.
"There are times when I ask God, `Should we still be hoping?' " she said Friday. "I have thought of all the things that might have happened, but I have faith in God and in Jared. I know he is alive."
Friends at the Negrete home said that he had once read a book about two teen-agers lost in the mountains. He and classmates talked about how they might themselves survive in similar circumstances, said Angelique Molloy, 12, a classmate. But other family members, upset about the circumstances of Jared's disappearance, fretted about the physical capabilities of Jared, who is described as 5-foot-2, 150 pounds.
"Jared's idea of a good workout," said Jared's 20-year-old cousin, Anthony Negrete, "was to shoot 10 lay-ups at the basket in the back yard, then to go inside for some Doritos and punch." Jared and five other Boy Scouts were taken by their Scoutmaster, Dennis Knight, on an overnight hike, beginning on July 18. Knight told authorities that the group spent that night at Dry Lake, north of the San Gorgonio Summit, then headed up the mountain the next morning.
They left their packs at a new base camp, about a mile from the lake, and hiked about five miles along the Sky High Trail, most of it at 10,000 feet or higher. Sometime before they reached the summit, Jared, who had been dawdling, lost contact with the group.
Jared's uncle, Ramon Negrete, said one hiker's parent told him Jared was left behind in a race. "Somebody said, `Let's
race to the top,' " said Ramon Negrete, awaiting word at the rescue operations center about 22 miles northwest of Redlands. "He didn't wander off; they left him behind."


6/4/03
Boy Scouts of America officials concede that safety procedures may have been violated on the overnight hiking excursion.
A spokesman at the Scouts' national headquarters in Irving, Tex., said Knight, Scoutmaster of El Monte's Troop 538, apparently had failed to observe the "two-deep leadership" rule, requiring him to bring another adult to help supervise the hike. Knight also failed to file a description of the planned hike with the local Boy Scout Council and to observe a standard outdoorsman's rule that "the slowest hiker sets the pace," said Scout spokesman Blake Lewis.
Knight could not be reached for comment. Jared's parents, who belong to the same Mormon church as Knight, continued to express support for him.
"Maybe (Jared) stopped to tie a shoelace or something happened, and he was just separated," said Linda Negrete.
"We aren't pointing any fingers at this point. We just want for him to be back." Searchers described the terrain where Jared disappeared as one of loose rocks, slippery slopes and, along the ravines and lower slopes, thick Vegetation.
"If you stay on the trail, there's no problem," said tracker Francis Lorson, a member of the San Bernardino Sheriff's Mounted Posse. "But the minute you get off, you can get swept down in a rockslide."
Tracks initially indicated that Jared had been moving down the side of the mountain, possibly in a panic reaction. "Things can get pretty spooky up there," said Garcia.
Friday, however, searchers said they had lost the boy's trail. The number of searchers, more than 90% of them volunteers, has continued to increase through the week, said Senior Sheriff's Deputy Bill Lenew.
Searchers kept their spirits up by recalling earlier searches that had ended successfully. For example, a 10-year-old mentally retarded boy survived unharmed in a nearby area for five days. "Any time you find any kind of a little clue, your hope gets rejuvenated," Garcia said. He added that there had been no "indicators" of Jared's death Search-and-rescue team leaders say that there are no rules as to when to give up a search. "You just keep going until
you've searched all the areas where he could be," said Arnold Gaffrey of the Sierra Madre Search and Rescue Team.
"As long as it doesn't involve a great risk to the searchers, you continue."
Lenew said that the leaders of the search effort had compiled a psychological profile of Jared, leading them to be optimistic. "He's no quitter, and he's got a good heart," Lenew said. "He's got spirit." Times staff writer Anna Cearley contributed to this story.
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Missing Scout Took Picture of Himself Search: His camera is found. Most of the photos were landscape scenes but final shot on the roll of film was of his eyes and nose.
The Los Angeles Times (Pre-1997 Fulltext); Los Angeles, Calif.; Jul 29, 1991; EDMUND NEWTON;
A 12-year-old Boy Scout, lost in the wilderness of the San Bernardino Mountains for the past nine days, may have taken a picture of himself after he became separated from his troop, family members said Sunday.
Twelve snapshots were developed from a camera found by searchers combing 11,500-foot Mt. San Gorgonio on Saturday for Jared Negrete, who has been missing since July 19.
Most of the photos were landscape scenes apparently taken before the boy became lost. But the final picture on the roll of film was a photograph of the Scout's eyes and nose, taken with the aid of the camera's flash attachment, possibly at night after the youth disappeared. Family members said it appeared Jared pointed his camera at his face and snapped
the picture. "Evidently, the flash went off so we determined it was rather late in the evening," said Harvey Beach, one of Jared's
uncles. Beach and another uncle, Leo Cortez, said they believed the boy lost the camera while sliding down a portion of the mountainside within days of his disappearance. "He was on his bottom sliding down to a lower area and water," Beach said. The camera was found in the same general area where searchers discovered beef jerky and candy wrappers believed to have been dropped by the Scout. "Jared always carried some goodies with him" and also had a two-quart water canteen, said Cortez, who has
accompanied the boy on short hikes.
The film, food wrappers and earlier tracks helped rescuers narrow the search area to the south fork of Whitewater River, north of Mt. San Gorgonio, from the entire brush and boulder-covered mountain face. And because of the discoveries, about 100 volunteers will continue the search today "full force," said San Bernardino County Sheriff's Deputy Bill Lenew.
"There are areas in the south fork where someone could survive an extended period of time," said Lenew, but as time passes "the chances of survival are a big issue."
While nearly a dozen uncles and cousins gathered near the search area, the youth's parents remained at their home in El Monte. The family has been having a "terrible time" since the 5-foot, 2-inch, 150-pound boy disappeared while on a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Scout outing, Beach said.
In addition to searchers on foot and on horseback, helicopters have been used to scan the brutal terrain. Infared monitors were installed at a number of high points Saturday night in hopes of spotting the boy in the dark. Only deer
and other animals were detected by the monitors, authorities said.
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Apparently the final photo was not publically released. Looking at the trails, and the fact that his fellow scouts wanted to "race" to the top of the mountain leaving Jarred alone, it is not hard to summize what happened. He likely got confused on which trail to take back down. From there, something catastrophic happened. Considering how steep the angles were adjoining the trail, it is likely he looked over and lost his footing. Most likely his fall triggered a rock slide that encompassed him and he was likely unconscious and unable to call out. It is most likely that his body is still there, covered in rocks and dirt.

The idea that he was abducted is not likely for a number of reasons. He was likely tired, and an abductor was not likely to carry him rapidly down the mountain. we have not seen the camera footage of the unidentified kid and the old lady. . . .Just don't sound right.

Here is a link to the topography of the mountain:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/San+Gorgonio+Mountain/@34.098954,-116.8269194,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x80db49beeacf30c9:0x93f1681ef7b9c829!8m2!3d34.098954!4d-116.8247307!5m1!1e4
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Here is a link to the search area:

http://caltopo.com/m/5G1K
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I've tried for years to find concise and detailed articles on this case, being from Southern California it always stuck out in the back of my head. I'm not sure the photo has ever been made public to my knowledge. Investigators probably have the original in their possession.
I've found a newspaper extract with the photo. Not great quality but higher resolution was behind a paywall:

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Wow great find! I haven't been on here in a few years and am going through my old posts.
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