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Old 11-01-2012, 04:06 PM   #16
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whoever runs websleuths is a worshipper of Hitler. Period. Every once in a while, I will lurk on there and you can get some interesting information about a wide array of cases, but like half of the people that have ever posted there have been banned.
LOL..so true!

I agree with the Nazified comment. If you say something they don't like on Websleuths they ban you!

Bunch of commies!
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Old 11-01-2012, 05:34 PM   #17
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I believe one of the former members had to temporarily close down one of the threads on the Lyle Stevik board. I was disappointed - not because she closed the thread, but because of the petty squabbling between a few posters that caused her to do so.

I supported that decision, even though it hindered our opportunities to discuss the case.
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:02 AM   #18
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This may fast track me to hellfire and damnation but the hand wringing of all the Nancy Grace acolytes on websleuths now is something to behold.


WS reminds me of the darkest days of our Darlie Routier and Jeff MacDonald threads.
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Was doing research on another case and up pops a WS thread about women who've killed their husbands. More than one individual hailed Betty Broderick as a "hero".

That place is like a crazies convention.
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Was doing research on another case and up pops a WS thread about women who've killed their husbands. More than one individual hailed Betty Broderick as a "hero".

That place is like a crazies convention.
I gave up on that site due the sheer volume of posts about 99% really didn't have any useful information.
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I gave up on that site due the sheer volume of posts about 99% really didn't have any useful information.
I love how someone will post the obvious "So tragic. I can't believe this world. Hoping they catch the sick person who did this" and about 5 others "thank" them for the post.
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I love how someone will post the obvious "So tragic. I can't believe this world. Hoping they catch the sick person who did this" and about 5 others "thank" them for the post.
I would like to thank you for this useful post
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Are there any forums where true crime cases are discussed other than Websleuths? I find their moderating tactics a bit too Nazified for my tastes.

There is a case occurring in the news right now where it is rather obvious a family member was involved, so I posted my thoughts and theory about the case. My post was deleted because the admin says "we do not accuse family members here." Uh, well I hate to break it to them, but if family members or friends can never be discussed, that means over 80% of all murder cases cannot be discussed since murders and abductions are perpetrated by family and friends the vast majority of the time. It's stupid logic on their part. ..............
I have heard that websleuths just about bans anyone who dares blame an intruder and refuses to blame the Ramsey family in regards to the Jonbenet Ramsey case.
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Are there any forums where true crime cases are discussed other than Websleuths? I find their moderating tactics a bit too Nazified for my tastes.

There is a case occurring in the news right now where it is rather obvious a family member was involved, so I posted my thoughts and theory about the case. My post was deleted because the admin says "we do not accuse family members here." Uh, well I hate to break it to them, but if family members or friends can never be discussed, that means over 80% of all murder cases cannot be discussed since murders and abductions are perpetrated by family and friends the vast majority of the time. It's stupid logic on their part. Is WS a support forum or is it a forum for objectively discussing cases? It seems to me it is more of a support forum. I have no problem with that, but they need to change the name from WebSleuths to "Web Support Of Crime Victims." It is not an objective forum where people can express opinions, and if one can't express an opinion, then why post?

At least this forum allows people to discuss their thoughts on what really happened. The problem is this forum is dead and I would like to know if there are active alternatives to WS.
Thiussat, below is a quote about online bullying that applies to the behavior on sites like Websleuths and ScaredMonkeys and many of the others where the members all like to gang up on the new guy.

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The word bullying is used to describe a repeated pattern of negative intrusive violational behaviour against one or more targets and comprises constant trivial nit-picking criticism, refusal to value and acknowledge, undermining, discrediting and a host of other behaviours which are defined on my page What is bullying?

................where a target is selected and bullied (mobbed) by a group of people rather than by one individual. However, every group has a ringleader. If this ringleader is an extrovert it will be obvious who is coercing group members into mobbing the selected target. If the ringleader is an introvert type, he or she is likely to be in the background coercing and manipulating group members into mobbing the selected target; introvert ringleaders are much more dangerous than extrovert ringleaders.

In a mobbing situation, the ringleader incites supporters, cohorts, copycats and unenlightened, inexperienced, immature or emotionally needy individuals with poor values to engage in adversarial interaction with the selected target. The ringleader, or chief bully, gains gratification from encouraging others to engage in adversarial interaction with the target. Many people use the word "mobbing" to describe this pack attack by many on one individual. Once mobbing is underway the chief bully foments the mobbing into mutually assured destruction, from which the chief bully gains intense gratification - this is a feature of people with psychopathic personality.

One aspect of psychopathic bullies is that they home in on Wannabe types - non-psychopathic lesser bullies - and then empower these individuals to gain the positions of power and authority they crave. Once installed, the Wannabe's lack of competence makes them dependent on the chief psychopath, which means they become unwitting but willing compliant puppets. They also make perfect corporate clones and drones. A characteristic of the Wannabe is that as well as lacking all the competencies necessary for their position, they also lack the intellect to understand the nature and manner of their compliant subservience.

Throughout the mobbing experience, the target is deceived into fighting, blaming and trying to hold accountable the minor bullies of the mobbing group rather than the chief bully.

.......The chief bullies appear so charming and plausible to naive, unenlightened and inexperienced people - usually those who haven't experienced bullying themselves. Psychopathic chief bullies are very likely to have everyone in human resources and management in their pocket, who are then manipulated into further mobbing, victimising and persecuting the target.

The golden rule when tackling a mobbing situation is, I believe, to identify and focus exclusively on the chief bully, and concentrate on holding this ringleader accountable. Expect an immediate increase in mobbing activities, and a rapidly-expanding web of deceit to be concocted against you.
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Franklin, how about that other webbsleuths site (spelled with two Bs) you mentioned regarding the Jonbenet Ramsey murder and the Madeline Pulver collar bomb case?

Are they an active board, a defunct site, an archive site?
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I have debated signing up for WS for a while, but am a little disturbed by the TOS' strong wording.

"If you are unable to register without using an anonymous proxy for some legitimate reason that we quite frankly cannot fathom but may very well exist, please contact us via email and we'll work with you."

"On the other hand, if you're a foul mouthed pathological basket case that keeps trying proxy after proxy thinking you will trick us, get a life. We appreciate expanding our proxy block list with your generous assistance, but please, seek professional help. Soon."

I can understand having issues with anonymous people on the internet, but I find these statements to lack class. Surely there are much more respectful ways to express terms of service.
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I can't even fathom what Websleuths is trying to get across there. Sounds like someone was trying to sound impressive with their phrasing but it fell flat.
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I can't even fathom what Websleuths is trying to get across there. Sounds like someone was trying to sound impressive with their phrasing but it fell flat.
Yes, instead that comes off as extremely hostile. I think I will continue to lurk, but am extremely hesitant to join if that's the attitude of the webmasters on there.
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New one, done with WS as it is now. Used to be a good place to debate lots of varied theories. Now each case varies in its "victim friendliness" depending on what the group consensus and those who dissent face time outs for calling the hive mentality what it is.

I am following a new one lately. It appears to be encouraging actual debate of alternate theories and not just the ones espoused by management or whoever yells the loudest. No mobbing allowed. So far so good, hoping their membership grows so more voices are added to the discussion.
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