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Old 05-01-2017, 02:43 PM   #16
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Yeah, but who wants to see a reunion that is only part of a fictional book? I'd wager viewers want to see a "real" story with the "real" characters. I know I would.
That's why I feel the finale hurt the whole series by turning into a book that got events incorrect. I mean the whole series is part of a fictional book (well maybe not the first couple of seasons, but definitely once the boyfriends came onto the scene).

BUT, this would be a way to tell new stories with a very much alive Dan, as opposed to him faking his death or being a spirit.

Also, to see them in a "real" story would have to take place in an alternate reality from the rest of the show (save the last fifteen minutes of the finale).
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That's why I feel the finale hurt the whole series by turning into a book that got events incorrect. I mean the whole series is part of a fictional book (well maybe not the first couple of seasons, but definitely once the boyfriends came onto the scene).

BUT, this would be a way to tell new stories with a very much alive Dan, as opposed to him faking his death or being a spirit.

Also, to see them in a "real" story would have to take place in an alternate reality from the rest of the show (save the last fifteen minutes of the finale).
IMO, the finale basically ruined the entire series. It was like they pulled the narrative rug out from underneath the audience, rendering all the emotional investment they had placed in these characters moot, like a cruel April Fool's joke. I have never been so disgusted with a finale in my life (and most of them are terrible, to be honest).
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IMO, the finale basically ruined the entire series. It was like they pulled the narrative rug out from underneath the audience, rendering all the emotional investment they had placed in these characters moot, like a cruel April Fool's joke. I have never been so disgusted with a finale in my life (and most of them are terrible, to be honest).
I agree. When the show was in its original run, I was just a casual viewer. After that finale, I had trouble getting into the reruns for the reason you just mentioned.

As classic an ending as Newhart had, I kinda feel the same way in regards to the finale changing the way you look at all the previous episodes, knowing it's all a dream of Bob Hartley's.
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I agree. When the show was in its original run, I was just a casual viewer. After that finale, I had trouble getting into the reruns for the reason you just mentioned.

As classic an ending as Newhart had, I kinda feel the same way in regards to the finale changing the way you look at all the previous episodes, knowing it's all a dream of Bob Hartley's.
Yes. It really undermined the importance of anything that happened in "Newhart". I wonder how the Daryls and the other folks felt when they found out their characters were just bits of Bob Newhart's dream!
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Yes. It really undermined the importance of anything that happened in "Newhart". I wonder how the Daryls and the other folks felt when they found out their characters were just bits of Bob Newhart's dream!
Yeah and it also prevents Newhart from standing on its own. If someone had just started watching the show, and had no knowledge of The Bob Newhart Show, they'd be completely baffled by the ending. I guess at least Roseanne doesn't have that problem.
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I actually like the "Newhart" finale but I find it hard to watch the "Roseanne" finale. I'm not really interested in seeing a "Roseanne" reboot unless they make it where the finale was actually the book.
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I actually like the "Newhart" finale but I find it hard to watch the "Roseanne" finale. I'm not really interested in seeing a "Roseanne" reboot unless they make it where the finale was actually the book.
I like the Newhart finale, too. I'm just saying it affects the way I watch the reruns, knowing that even in fiction, it's fiction. Same goes for Roseanne but at least on Newhart the ending was done for laughs. I don't know why Roseanne had to get so dramatic there in the end. What was the point of them ending the show like that?
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I've completely dissociated from the final season, it just doesn't exist to me haha
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I don't know why Roseanne had to get so dramatic there in the end. What was the point of them ending the show like that?


Roseanne was dramatic way before the finale. Look at the stories Roseanne did over the years. Child abuse, domestic abuse, financial problems, parents being mentally ill, and her abusive father dying just to name a few. Roseanne was never a silly comedy with no point to it. I am one of the minorities that liked the last 10 minutes or so of the finale. I thought it was clever of Roseanne to change things up like she did. I can't see many people knowing it was going to end like that before seeing it. It was a shocker which is what shows should do. I don't think they should revive this series with Dan alive. They need to leave him dead or it will demean the whole purpose of the original series finale.
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Roseanne was dramatic way before the finale. Look at the stories Roseanne did over the years. Child abuse, domestic abuse, financial problems, parents being mentally ill, and her abusive father dying just to name a few. Roseanne was never a silly comedy with no point to it. I am one of the minorities that liked the last 10 minutes or so of the finale. I thought it was clever of Roseanne to change things up like she did. I can't see many people knowing it was going to end like that before seeing it. It was a shocker which is what shows should do. I don't think they should revive this series with Dan alive. They need to leave him dead or it will demean the whole purpose of the original series finale.
I would say the finale demeaned the whole purpose of the rest of the series.
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Laurie Metcalf Pushes for "Roseanne" Revival at Tony Awards Nominees Reception
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Laurie Metcalf told reporters at the Tony Awards nominations after-party, held at New York City's Sofitel, that she is on board for the "Roseanne" revival.

ďIím hoping that it happens,Ē says Metcalf, who played Jackie Harris in the '90s sitcom. ďEverything is in place except the fact that it hasnít been sold.Ē

Metcalf received a Tony-nomination for her role in A Doll's House, Part 2.

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Laurie Metcalf Pushes for "Roseanne" Revival at Tony Awards Nominees Reception
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Laurie Metcalf told reporters at the Tony Awards nominations after-party, held at New York City's Sofitel, that she is on board for the "Roseanne" revival.

ďIím hoping that it happens,Ē says Metcalf, who played Jackie Harris in the '90s sitcom. ďEverything is in place except the fact that it hasnít been sold.Ē

Metcalf received a Tony-nomination for her role in A Doll's House, Part 2.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...eption-1000149
I have to say that of everyone in the cast, I'm most looking forward to seeing Laurie Metcalf return to her role. She always brought so much to Jackie and is in a league of her own.
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I have to say that of everyone in the cast, I'm most looking forward to seeing Laurie Metcalf return to her role. She always brought so much to Jackie and is in a league of her own.
Little off topic, but I remember when Scream 2 first came out I couldn't believe that the "lady on Roseanne" was hacking everyone, lol.
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I have to say that of everyone in the cast, I'm most looking forward to seeing Laurie Metcalf return to her role. She always brought so much to Jackie and is in a league of her own.

I really liked the character in the first few years, but do you agree that in the last few, let's say three, years, they pretty much made her a babbling fool? It just seemed like she was the level headed one for so long, and then they decided to suck all of her intelligence out of her.
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