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Old 07-31-2009, 02:29 PM   #46
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During the first hour of last nights 7/31 Big Brother After Dark after the HOH was decided, Jessie was openly talking about the coup de tat and that they had two weeks to use it, etc....he knew all the rules and he wasn't talking like speculation.....how did he know?, julie said on air, this was a surprise that only one house guest would know about and it hasn't even been given or awarded yet.
Because Boogie won the exact same thing in All-Stars, but did not use it.
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Because Boogie won the exact same thing in All-Stars, but did not use it.
I know that...but julie didn't say what the twist was, she only said that a person will have all the power to change the game..and yes she said it was valid for two weeks...but its a far stretch for jessie to automatically assume correctly that it is a repeat of the coup de tat....big brother does repeat things but he was saying it like he knew exactly which seems fishy to me.
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I know that...but julie didn't say what the twist was, she only said that a person will have all the power to change the game..and yes she said it was valid for two weeks...but its a far stretch for jessie to automatically assume correctly that it is a repeat of the coup de tat....big brother does repeat things but he was saying it like he knew exactly which seems fishy to me.
It's not really that unusual. BB is not that creative, and the houseguests are constantly speculating things.
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It's not really that unusual. BB is not that creative, and the houseguests are constantly speculating things.
I guess, but I disagree about it not being creative, I'm not saying it always works..such as the clique, lets face it they dumped out of it after 3 weeks because it changed the game too much, they make up the rules depending on the ratings as the summer progresses ...but as for no surprises...in the past..... the first season there was no veto, no slop, then they added the golden veto, they put relatives in the house, then twins, broken up lovers, brought evicted houseguests back, did all-stars.....my point was for the last time, Jessie was not speculating, he knew exactly what the surprise was and for a show that its slogan is "expect the unexpected" it is kinda strange, he would know exactly from julie's words that they were repeating the coup de tat. Plus since he was not involved when they first did it, I doubt Jessie knows the past history of the show as well as some of the other houseguests, he is in it for the glamour and to further his modeling career, he was a musclehead model...and he isn't the brightest bulb in the bunch.
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I guess, but I disagree about it not being creative, I'm not saying it always works..such as the clique, lets face it they dumped out of it after 3 weeks because it changed the game too much, they make up the rules depending on the ratings as the summer progresses ...but as for no surprises...in the past..... the first season there was no veto, no slop, then they added the golden veto, they put relatives in the house, then twins, broken up lovers, brought evicted houseguests back, did all-stars.....my point was for the last time, Jessie was not speculating, he knew exactly what the surprise was and for a show that its slogan is "expect the unexpected" it is kinda strange, he would know exactly from julie's words that they were repeating the coup de tat. Plus since he was not involved when they first did it, I doubt Jessie knows the past history of the show as well as some of the other houseguests, he is in it for the glamour and to further his modeling career, he was a musclehead model...and he isn't the brightest bulb in the bunch.
Actually, compared to other shows, namely Survivor, CBS completely drops the ball on BB. Yes, season 2 was a massive improvement from season 1, but other than that, they always ruin things. They never make them as good as they should be. All-Stars was horrible. I was expecting so much out of that season, but it was awful in the end. Everything from casting to the so-called "twists" that were coming. I don't think Jessie knew for sure, because there's no way it would have been confirmed for him. He's not a fan favorite, so the show's producers would never give him an advantage. Even with the popular houseguests, I don't believe they are ever given these privileges, even though it's always assumed. Like last year, most people thought CBS gave Dan the jacket for the endurance competition so he would win.
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I agree with the first one. The second one, I don't understand that one much at all, considering how they weren't really a threat. IMO, it should have been Ronnie and either Jessie or Natalie on the block. If Russell is going to go against his old alliance to form a new one with Jeff, then either Jessie or Natalie needed to go up to seal the deal. But, let's just hope it's Ronnie going home on Thursday.
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Actually, compared to other shows, namely Survivor, CBS completely drops the ball on BB. Yes, season 2 was a massive improvement from season 1, but other than that, they always ruin things. They never make them as good as they should be. All-Stars was horrible. I was expecting so much out of that season, but it was awful in the end. Everything from casting to the so-called "twists" that were coming. I don't think Jessie knew for sure, because there's no way it would have been confirmed for him. He's not a fan favorite, so the show's producers would never give him an advantage. Even with the popular houseguests, I don't believe they are ever given these privileges, even though it's always assumed. Like last year, most people thought CBS gave Dan the jacket for the endurance competition so he would win.
I never doubt BB for being rigged. It's pretty obvious that producer Alison Grodner always helps the contestants she likes. For instance, season 8: the entire season was clearly rigged in favor of Evel Dick and his daughter to end up in the final two. The least they could have done was try to keep it hidden, lol. It was so blatantly obviously I stopped watching halfway through the season.
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I never doubt BB for being rigged. It's pretty obvious that producer Alison Grodner always helps the contestants she likes. For instance, season 8: the entire season was clearly rigged in favor of Evel Dick and his daughter to end up in the final two. The least they could have done was try to keep it hidden, lol. It was so blatantly obviously I stopped watching halfway through the season.
I don't doubt that they invent twists (like bringing back the coup de tat this season) to help the popular houseguests get further, but I don't think they give certain ones inside information that others don't have. It's rigged to an extent, but not completely. If that were the case, the Sov 6 would have gotten much further in BB6 and the Friendship would have been taken apart. No one wanted to see that awful bitch Maggie win the show, and obviously Boogie was nowhere near popular. They would have rigged it for Janelle to win, but they didn't. This season the popular houseguests are being taken out way too soon so they had to step in for ratings issues, which I 100% expected. It has to do with ratings, not Grodner's personal feelings toward anyone.
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Michele again. Bye bye Ronnie. Out before the jury, LOL!
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I agree with the first one. The second one, I don't understand that one much at all, considering how they weren't really a threat. IMO, it should have been Ronnie and either Jessie or Natalie on the block. If Russell is going to go against his old alliance to form a new one with Jeff, then either Jessie or Natalie needed to go up to seal the deal. But, let's just hope it's Ronnie going home on Thursday.
While he's setting himself up for a possible second alliance, it probably wasn't in his best interest to put Jessie or Natalie on the block this week. It would have put a huge, unnecessary target on his back.
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While he's setting himself up for a possible second alliance, it probably wasn't in his best interest to put Jessie or Natalie on the block this week. It would have put a huge, unnecessary target on his back.
Probably true - it was best for him to begin deteriorating the alliance, which I think he did with putting who he did up. Now, hopefully we'll see the power in the house shift in the coming weeks.
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Michele again. Bye bye Ronnie. Out before the jury, LOL!
Finally, all is right in the house! lol. As to the veto winner, good for them. Too bad Casey wasn't here to see it, lol.
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Probably true - it was best for him to begin deteriorating the alliance, which I think he did with putting who he did up. Now, hopefully we'll see the power in the house shift in the coming weeks.
Yeah, it was probably best but now I think it would be hilarious if he ended up backdooring Jessie. It most likely won't happen, but I'd die laughing if it did.
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