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Old 08-08-2005, 08:55 PM   #1
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did the authorities ever find out the nature of the radio device found in the woods?
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:17 PM   #2
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I'm not sure, I haven't been able to find any info on this case but the detective in the U.M. interview didn't want to believe or hear anything else besides his belief that it was a suicide, perhaps he's covering it up?
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:46 PM   #3
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they must think the public and his family are like so blind!
somebody was using that location for a pick up!
what would a kid his age be using such a device for?!
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:27 PM   #4
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I have always felt - and this is just basically a feeling that the death of Norman Ladner (the boys' real name) is somehow related to the death of Ives/Henry. Very similar at least to me.

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[QUOTE=DarkDante]I have always felt - and this is just basically a feeling that the death of Norman Ladner (the boys' real name) is somehow related to the death of Ives/Henry. Very similar at least to me.

I wouldn't be surprised, both of the areas were suspected drug drop off zones if I recall.
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doesn't it seem a little odd that in bothe the ives/henry and ladner cases the victims were teenagers?
then again they did like to hunt.
it is a complete perversion when people who are supposed to protect us help out the ones who commit these horrid acts of atrocity
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just watched the segment again...
the parents sent the cops a slug they found but claim they got a different bullet back!
rotten cops or what!?
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Cases like this one really bother me. It's obvious the police know something and they don't want to help the Ladner family. You would think the cops would be smart enough to at least pretend to be working on the case. It looks really bad that they didn't look for the bullet. And instead of giving the family the wrong bullet back, couldn't they have said they needed to keep the found bullet as evidence? Of course the Ladners aren't going to give up! The stupid police are proving that they don't want the case to be solved.
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Someone made a comment to this case being similar to the "Boys on the Tracks" case. I Tivo'ed this episode and watched it the other day... that was the FIRST thought that came through my mind. They seemed VERY similar in nature.

I felt SO bad for the parents, having to sift through his blood and brain matter in order to find the bullet. Eesh.
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I was thinking about this case today, and something occurred to me. Stack said that Ladner's wallet was missing along with a substantial amount of money (a hundred dollars?). Did it ever occur to anyone that perhaps Ladner was there to buy drugs and got in over his head? In my opinion, it makes more sense than the theory that he just stumbled on to random drug smugglers on his land.
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I was thinking about this case today, and something occurred to me. Stack said that Ladner's wallet was missing along with a substantial amount of money (a hundred dollars?). Did it ever occur to anyone that perhaps Ladner was there to buy drugs and got in over his head? In my opinion, it makes more sense than the theory that he just stumbled on to random drug smugglers on his land.
Yeah it seems odd that he would have that much money in his wallet while he's out hunting.
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I was a personal friend of Norman Ladner and drugs was not something he was even remotely interested in. He and his family moved from Slidell, LA to Picayune, MS (where I am from) not long before he was murdered (yes I believe he was). He always had a hundred or two on him even and didn't think anything of it. Sadly his father passed away a few years ago and I haven't seen any of the family around. The house they built near the spot Norman's body was found is there but I don't know if the family is living there. I would like to see this case reopened because I feel that Lorance Lumpkin was covering this all up. By the way, my friend and I was there when they were filming...pretty creepy watching this kid acting the part of Norman.
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I was a personal friend of Norman Ladner and drugs was not something he was even remotely interested in. He and his family moved from Slidell, LA to Picayune, MS (where I am from) not long before he was murdered (yes I believe he was). He always had a hundred or two on him even and didn't think anything of it. Sadly his father passed away a few years ago and I haven't seen any of the family around. The house they built near the spot Norman's body was found is there but I don't know if the family is living there. I would like to see this case reopened because I feel that Lorance Lumpkin was covering this all up. By the way, my friend and I was there when they were filming...pretty creepy watching this kid acting the part of Norman.
Welcome, rovinggambler. Very interesting post. That's one of the aspects that makes this board unique, people who knew the person or family checking in with new details.

I'm shocked the father has passed away, since he couldn't have been very old. I liked his speaking style so that gave me a positive impression of him.

What makes you suspect Lorance Lumpkin?

And do you know anything about the radio device found in the woods? Or the speculation there might have been a drug plane land in the area, something that Norman stumbled upon by accident? That was a focus of the UM segment.
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Hi. Lorance Lumpkin was the Pearl River County sherriff back during the time of Norman's death. I was only 15 at the time but my buddy who was at the UM filming with me told me that he felt Lorance was hiding something. I don't remember ever discussing what his reasons for saying that was but I wish now we had talked about it. Our paths don't cross much anymore...it's been 2 years since I've seen him. I need to get back in touch with him and hopefully we can discuss Norman. He and Norman was very good friends as well. We would walk to the little store very often and hang out with Norman back behind the store on the property his family owned and where he was killed. We could walk from our houses to the store in about 10 minutes. Norman would take us to an area where he had a target set up and we would shoot Norman's bow and arrow back there. He was alot of fun to hang around with...always a joker too. He would come to school with fake vomit and gross the girls out with it. Up until his death, we never saw any reason for him to be depressed about anything. Norman's father was right...he loved life and would never have had a reason to commit suicide. As far as the radio device goes...I never saw it but we heard the family talking about it at the store. I did see the bullet that came back (the one that was switched). His dad had it at the store and let me see it. Something that I forgot to mention in my last post was that his mom and dad divorced sometime in the mid-90's. It's a shame that I never really kept in touch with any of them after his death and only learned about the divorce years after they signed the papers. They were a really great family and I was shocked to hear about it. I can only assume that Norman's death contributed to the split. It has become a cold case and frankly, I've heard no talk about it in a very long time. One thing I do remember my friend saying to me was that he had seen a low flying plane...a small, crop dusting type plane...flying in the area of their land around the time of Norman's death. My personal feelings are basically what was laid out in the UM episode. Norman walked upon a drug deal and was taken out. I guess my friend felt that sherriff Lorance Lumpkin knew of the drug deal and did what he could to make it look like a suicide. I wish I knew more and maybe I will if I could make contact with an old buddy of mine. Later.
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I found this online memorial for Norman's father if you would like to see it. Click this link http://www.heartfeltconnections.net/...TOKEN=30775146
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