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Old 05-31-2016, 09:40 PM   #76
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It wasn't. Actually, if my memory holds up, I believe the one who mentioned it for the first time was Sheila Kimmel, Lisa's mother. She used to post on these boards (user name Shek, I think.) Very nice lady who certainly did not deserve what happened to her.

I remember being very shocked to hear about the Eaton connection. The more I learn about him, the more I'm convinced he's involved.

EDIT: Heh. I didn't realize this was the same thread where Shek puts forth the Eaton theory. Good to see my memory is intact. Somewhat.
I hope she's doing well today. I remember she mentioned that she'd had a stroke recently (in the last couple of years).
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It sounds like both Amy and Steve had a variety of part-time jobs. Besides the outdoor equipment store, Amy worked at the fitness center when she went missing and she'd worked as a server at a local grill. Bill Sniffin, the former editor of the local Wyoming State Journal, mentioned that Amy worked for the paper as a part-time photographer.

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I recently watched Amy's case on Disappeared and have a few observations:

-Steve is most definitely a grade-A douche, but I don't think he killed his wife. There is a semi-decent alibi, no "other woman" that we know of, no life insurance policy, etc. Plus, Amy seemed to allow him to kind of do whatever he wanted, so I don't think Amy was crimping his lifestyle or anything.

-Steve did not appear on Disappeared....also his really-freakin'-weird 911 call to report Amy missing, compared to his general jerk-ish behavior, would definitely give investigators reason to suspect him. If they did have tunnel vision, I can't say that I'd blame them too badly...after all, a wife goes missing, husband is a narcissistic weirdo, husband displays a bunch of odd behavior, etc...not difficult to see why tunnel vision might happen in this case.
I agree with this. I don't think that Steve was involved in his wife's disappearance, but his overall behavior, both during the marriage (the bruises on Amy and her explanation for them) and after she disappeared, understandably put him on the radar with investigators.

I wish we knew more about the gray truck that was seen further on the road from Amy's car. The Eaton connection is possible, but probably he wasn't the only violent individual in the region at that time.
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As of July 24th, it has been 19 years since she disappeared back in 1997. I couldn't find any recent news releases/articles about the case--hopefully there will be a push within the next year since it is coming on 20 years. I saw a news story from this week that the WY federal appeals court ordered proceedings to continue in Dale Wayne Eaton's appeal of Johnson's order allowing the state to seek the death penalty against him a second time. Even though he has never talked about any additional victims (IDK if he has ever even admitted his involvement in the murder of Lisa Marie Kimmel), with all these appeals, I wonder if he will be more likely to talk? I really do feel like he is a very strong suspect in Amy's case. I do feel awful, though, for Lisa's family having to go through all these appeals.
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Watched this segment again today. Steve is weird yes. In fact a lot of the segment comes off as weird. I'm always surprised with his being relieved when he found Amy's abandoned vehicle. I'm interested to watch the disappeared episode. Did not know of the Eaton connection.
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Based on the episode and on so many episodes set in rural areas in which the missing person turns out to have died of exposure a few miles from where he or she is last seen, the husband didn't do it. The witness who claimed spotting his truck had this account discredited when the phone company confirmed somebody placed a call from the house. Also, he didn't seem weird to me -- he seemed reasonably self-assured.

Finally, I laughed at the idea that the cops spotted sinister undertones in his journal scribblings -- as if they hadn't ever read a journal before.
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A new podcast from the skilful Steven Pachecho, though nothing new unfortunately. https://youtu.be/Hedd1KbGMN8
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I watched this again recently, and although I used to think there was something sinister here, but now I don't.

If we look at Occam's Razor, I think it is most likely she went out for a mountain run and either had a medical problem and/or slipped and fell and ended up dying by exposure.

The other possibility is suicide. They had a lot of big life events going on so it's not out of the question that she was pretty stressed. As someone said on another thread, UM really seemed to downplay the cases where suicide could have been a likely reason for someone's disappearance. The friends would always say, "He/she didn't seem depressed, so it wasn't suicide." If only it was that simple.

I'm not sure if it was mentioned, but Amy's husband remarried and now runs a mountain climbing store.
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I watched this again recently, and although I used to think there was something sinister here, but now I don't.

If we look at Occam's Razor, I think it is most likely she went out for a mountain run and either had a medical problem and/or slipped and fell and ended up dying by exposure.

The other possibility is suicide. They had a lot of big life events going on so it's not out of the question that she was pretty stressed. As someone said on another thread, UM really seemed to downplay the cases where suicide could have been a likely reason for someone's disappearance. The friends would always say, "He/she didn't seem depressed, so it wasn't suicide." If only it was that simple.

I'm not sure if it was mentioned, but Amy's husband remarried and now runs a mountain climbing store.
Any of those could be possible but I personally believe now she was a victim of serial killer Dale Wayne Eaton.
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I watched this again recently, and although I used to think there was something sinister here, but now I don't.

If we look at Occam's Razor, I think it is most likely she went out for a mountain run and either had a medical problem and/or slipped and fell and ended up dying by exposure.

The other possibility is suicide. They had a lot of big life events going on so it's not out of the question that she was pretty stressed. As someone said on another thread, UM really seemed to downplay the cases where suicide could have been a likely reason for someone's disappearance. The friends would always say, "He/she didn't seem depressed, so it wasn't suicide." If only it was that simple.

I'm not sure if it was mentioned, but Amy's husband remarried and now runs a mountain climbing store.
interesting take here,. I agree about the suicide statement. I tend to think she was abducted and taken away from the area. But it is not beyond possible that she was injured in some way (whether self inflicted or accidental) and died from exposure. especially in those elements. I think Law Enforcement had nothing and centered on the husband. Once he stopped cooperating, then they said well he must be guilty. the detective basically says that in the segment. we saw a similar situation in the orange socks segment. detectives keyed on the husband without any type of hard evidence other than a business card.
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interesting take here,. I agree about the suicide statement. I tend to think she was abducted and taken away from the area. But it is not beyond possible that she was injured in some way (whether self inflicted or accidental) and died from exposure. especially in those elements. I think Law Enforcement had nothing and centered on the husband. Once he stopped cooperating, then they said well he must be guilty. the detective basically says that in the segment. we saw a similar situation in the orange socks segment. detectives keyed on the husband without any type of hard evidence other than a business card.
She had no history of mental illness, which might tend to exclude the suicide theory. I also think her body would have been found had she suffered some accident. As for the husband, it would depend on whether his friend was covering for him, which I doubt after all these years, but if he was mistaken on times there might be a possibility that Steve had stuffed her body in some concealed crevice, though again to escape detection he would need time to ensure it would never be discovered.
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I personally don't think this was a suicide. After learning more about fatal encounters with animals out in nature, I do think there's a strong possibility that she was attacked by an animal (mountain lion) which scattered her remains. I think that's a lot more "common" in these cases of missing people who disappear out in the wilderness.
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She had no history of mental illness, which might tend to exclude the suicide theory. I also think her body would have been found had she suffered some accident. As for the husband, it would depend on whether his friend was covering for him, which I doubt after all these years, but if he was mistaken on times there might be a possibility that Steve had stuffed her body in some concealed crevice, though again to escape detection he would need time to ensure it would never be discovered.
Yeah I personally don’t think she committed suicide. I have however heard of people committing suicide without ever showing signs of mental illness or any foreseen warning signs. Either way I think Todd mueller made some good points that I had never thought of. I also think you and thecars make good points. I had not thought of an animal until now, but that would explain why she was never found. If she suffered some type of bad injury she would have been at the mercy of other predators.

I think it was most likely an abduction if she was running on a well traveled path.
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People disappearing in the wilderness happens all the time. But in this case, I'm inclined to believe it was foul play. She was on a well-traveled path (alongside the road), and I think some shred of her belongings would have been found had she been overtaken by some wild animal (a piece of her shirt, shoes, etc.). If I recall correctly, she wasn't running into the woods or anything like that, but on the side of the road where cars passed her. A criminal (such as Eaton) could well have taken advantage by grabbing her from the road after spotting her while driving by.
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People disappearing in the wilderness happens all the time. But in this case, I'm inclined to believe it was foul play. She was on a well-traveled path (alongside the road), and I think some shred of her belongings would have been found had she been overtaken by some wild animal (a piece of her shirt, shoes, etc.). If I recall correctly, she wasn't running into the woods or anything like that, but on the side of the road where cars passed her. A criminal (such as Eaton) could well have taken advantage by grabbing her from the road after spotting her while driving by.
I agree with you here. I actually just watched the disappeared episode for the first time. The experts did say foul play is most likely due to there not being any trace evidence. This segment is one I saw when I first started watching on lifetime in 2003. Wish there was something else to go off of. If Eaton did abduct her we will never know the truth.
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Any of those could be possible but I personally believe now she was a victim of serial killer Dale Wayne Eaton.
I wish I had gone back and read from the beginning of this thread before today. There is so much info on these boards for these cases.

I never realized that Dale Eaton's brother is the one who called in the tip to LEA to report that his brother was camping at the precise area that Amy was last seen running. I've heard on podcasts that there were bad storms that afternoon. the last person reported to see Amy while she was running actually commented that she was crazy for running out there in those elements and when they turned back on their route later they were looking to make sure she was ok, but never saw her again. the weather could have been a cover for eaton to approach her and offer her assistance. not that he needed a cover, but I imagine that she could have run away from him otherwise had he tried to attack her while running.

for me it is very interesting if Law Enforcement was tipped off about Eaton before he was arrested? Is that correct or was the tip given to law enforcement after he was arrested?
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