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Old 01-04-2011, 12:00 PM   #166
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Wasn't there an autopsy, and wasn't cause of death undetermined? With such a recent death, wouldn't drugs have shown up?
The autopsy revealed nothing. In fact, the conclusion of autopsy according to the coroner being interviewed was he died of "instantaneous physiologic death" with "probable accidental" cause.

In other words, he died instantaneously, it was probably accidental, but they could never pinpoint the exact cause. They found no trace of drugs in his blood, and he didn't have enough alcohol in his blood to cause his death.
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Wasn't there an autopsy, and wasn't cause of death undetermined? With such a recent death, wouldn't drugs have shown up?
Lester Adelson, who performed the autopsy, only tested him for three recreational drugs. This is stated in the newspaper article linked within this thread.
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Oh, then maybe his new "friends" tested some weird new drug on Kurt to see what it would do, either to see if it was safe for themselves or would work on someone they had reason to kill.

Would something like inhalation (huffing) be missed in such tests? Death with that can be pretty instantaneous.
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Hey I saw the duplex in street view. It hasn't changed at all! I wonder if Susan still lives there?
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Hey I saw the duplex in street view. It hasn't changed at all! I wonder if Susan still lives there?
has anyone ever thought that maybe kurt died of alcohol poisoning? there's something like that maybe after he drank so much beer and liquor he finally just passed out and from drugs too and they tried to help him but failed so they dumped his body in the ravine maybe he died that way it can happen
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has anyone ever thought that maybe kurt died of alcohol poisoning? there's something like that maybe after he drank so much beer and liquor he finally just passed out and from drugs too and they tried to help him but failed so they dumped his body in the ravine maybe he died that way it can happen
Yes, I've always thought that alcohol poisoning or a drug overdose were likely causes of death. Whether or not that was exacerbated by exposure, we'll never know.
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Yes, I've always thought that alcohol poisoning or a drug overdose were likely causes of death. Whether or not that was exacerbated by exposure, we'll never know.
well it's obvious to me, how could he have died? unless he just fell out dead he was so young i just feel it was alcohol and drugs he was only 17 years old and more than likely his heart gave out they didn't know what to do they were to afraid to go to his parents so they basically dumped him in that ravine like garbage i'm only fifteen i watch this show with my dad a lot and i thought this case was pretty interesting i feel bad for kurt sova i just wanted to put my thoughts in an order some did they poison him? they said they didn't sense any poisoning or a sign of foul play he wasn't murdered was he? too bad he can't be here to tell the story of what happened to him that night all's i can say is the police has closed this case and isn't wanting to talk more about it it looks like they had something to do with it someone is hiding something susan is hiding something she knows she had a party.
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well it's obvious to me, how could he have died? unless he just fell out dead he was so young i just feel it was alcohol and drugs he was only 17 years old and more than likely his heart gave out they didn't know what to do they were to afraid to go to his parents so they basically dumped him in that ravine like garbage i'm only fifteen i watch this show with my dad a lot and i thought this case was pretty interesting i feel bad for kurt sova i just wanted to put my thoughts in an order some did they poison him? they said they didn't sense any poisoning or a sign of foul play he wasn't murdered was he? too bad he can't be here to tell the story of what happened to him that night all's i can say is the police has closed this case and isn't wanting to talk more about it it looks like they had something to do with it someone is hiding something susan is hiding something she knows she had a party.
Unless they actively placed Kurt Sova outside and he died as a result, there are few legal remedies to this case. Since both of Mr. Sova's parents have passed away, there really wouldn't be too many people left to pursue this. And even if they did, given the passage of time, the possible deaths of witnesses and fading memories, it's doubtful that anybody would ever be convicted in this matter.
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Unless they actively placed Kurt Sova outside and he died as a result, there are few legal remedies to this case. Since both of Mr. Sova's parents have passed away, there really wouldn't be too many people left to pursue this. And even if they did, given the passage of time, the possible deaths of witnesses and fading memories, it's doubtful that anybody would ever be convicted in this matter.
like his mother said i believe kurt was dead on that cot when susan said he was sleeping in the basement they might have put him there for the night and then dumped his body in the ravine later that next day this case is pretty tough to figure out but i have some weird vibes that he just passed out someone is hiding something i can feel it, if only i can summon kurt like a psychic i would call him up and ask him what happened to him but i can't though. i just know that kurt is in a better place now and hopefully he's doing better now is it wrong for me to miss him too even though i'm not his friend and i don't know him?
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Yes, I've always thought that alcohol poisoning or a drug overdose were likely causes of death. Whether or not that was exacerbated by exposure, we'll never know.
But the coroner (Lester Adelson) said that he didn't have enough alcohol in his system to kill him. I'm not sure how that's possible, given that it is a fact that he was drinking Everclear before and maybe during the party that day/night, but that's what the coroner said.
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But the coroner (Lester Adelson) said that he didn't have enough alcohol in his system to kill him. I'm not sure how that's possible, given that it is a fact that he was drinking Everclear before and maybe during the party that day/night, but that's what the coroner said.
While I have to respect the coroner's position , I'm not a big "fan" of his judgment. He states that Mr. Sova was in that area deceased for a set amount of time and yet never provides evidence on why this was the case.Honestly, Mr. Sova could have had an enlarged heart and that could have been the cause of his death.

It's too bad that the family couldn't afford to hire their own medical examiner have a more professional (and thorough) autopsy done.
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But the coroner (Lester Adelson) said that he didn't have enough alcohol in his system to kill him. I'm not sure how that's possible, given that it is a fact that he was drinking Everclear before and maybe during the party that day/night, but that's what the coroner said.
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then it must have been an over-dose of drugs then, it had to have been something kurt didn't just die he didn't just fall out dead he have to have drank too much or exhaled too many drugs something happened to him and if it's not any of those then god must have took him at a young age
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This is for anyone that lives or lived in Cleveland: Do any of your local news channels or newspapers do any stories on the Sova family currently? I don't know if Kurt's parents are still living but he had three brothers. For instance, has his brothers done any interviews on tv on how the investigation has been progressing for the past 25 years?

The local police must not let this case be forgotten about. An innocent boy died & his family members deserve to know what happened to him.
does anyone else find kurt sova's picture a bit eerie looking just looking at his face? it doesn't look real i really did like this case but i'm a bit too chicken to look at it on youtube on my laptop but i would like to see it again on tv i just wonder sometimes if kurt knew he was going to die from drinking
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does anyone else find kurt sova's picture a bit eerie looking just looking at his face? it doesn't look real i really did like this case but i'm a bit too chicken to look at it on youtube on my laptop but i would like to see it again on tv i just wonder sometimes if kurt knew he was going to die from drinking
Haha, yes for some reason I kind of get that feeling too when I've looked at his photo. I think it might be because it's the first case I ever watched (on a Lifetime rerun in the middle of the night when I was about 10, watching it by myself, it was probably 1993) that really grabbed me and scared me. I think I have a better grasp of what might have happened to him now but when I first watched it back then, all the scenarios of what might have happened really scared me and naively I remember thinking back then that maybe he was murdered while sleeping in the cot in the basement if he stayed there for the night (I didn't know anything about drinking, alcohol, or much about other drugs yet) and it might made not want to ever sleep alone in a basement for awhile, lol.

Anyway, I think it's a combination of how I remember feeling when I first watched the segment and combine that with the music/score in the segment whenever I've watched it again and that's probably why I feel like I do when I see his photo. And with anyone that's been featured on the show that has died, I often get this irrational feeling that maybe they're looking back at me in some kind of ghost/spirit form when I look at their photo.

Sorry, that was a long response to just one part of your message, lol.

I just wish one of the people named in the newspaper article (the one that's linked in this thread), "Susan" from the UM segment, or somebody that was there would just come forward and re-tell authorities or a media outlet what happened and tell us what REALLY happened to him that night of the party.
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well they are looking back at us in a spirit form of some sort, they just don't know us and not in our homes thanks god! but yeah his pic kind of creeped me out a little the person who portrayed kurt looked real but the photo was kind of scary it looked like a mask to be honest did you see his lips how big they were? i think it was because i too had a crush on kurt sova but was too young to know what was going on in the case thanks for replying to me
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