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Old 04-09-2021, 04:18 PM   #136
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Full disclosure, I've always sucked at the "What if?' game (like you guys have done over at Facts of Life. What if those four first season girls had stayed? What if Jo had never been introduced?) Everyone can hypothesize, but there is no right or wrong answer. Hot may have been just as successful, it may have faded away in a season or two. There's really no way to know.
I don't participate in those on the FOL board. I'm like the majority of the FOL fanbase that loves the show the way it was. The changes between season 1 and 2 made it better.

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The story of Elka, as you might know, is that Betty was first intended only to be in the pilot, and then disappear. But ended up being a regular. And yes, she started out as a somewhat normal "sassy old woman", but got more and more outlandish, from being involved with the mob, to dealing prescription drugs, to (spoiler alert, in case you don't know, don't read.....) becoming mayor of Cleveland.
I wish it would have stayed like this. I would have preferred Betty a guest star on an occasional episode or two instead of making her a gag character to get people to watch. This is my first rewatch since the series ended and I'm really liking Melanie's stories. My favorite Melanie moment so far is the Hot & Heavy episode. I love how she uses Snow White as her sex addict story and says, "I think they were miners" but the group thought she meant "minors" I think Melanie got the short end from having more scenes like that because their focus was keeping Elka the outrageous one. With Victoria's schemes, it makes sense because she's a has been star trying to make it big again. With Elka, it's sad because she's an old lady that's being used to get laughs in.


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While the themes and emotions of Hot In Cleveland were always grounded in reality, on the surface it was always a bit cartoonish (heck, one episode is an actual cartoon) and larger than life. But I don't mean that as an insult.
I've only seen the cartoon episode once so I can't wait for this to get in my rewatch. I don't remember how they became cartoon characters. I remember The Nanny's cartoon episode because it was their Christmas episode.

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Elka is my favorite character ! Oh besides Melanie of course!!
Victoria has always been my favorite. Melanie has become my second favorite during this rewatch. Elka has become my least favorite. I don't care for all those gimmicks to keep her entertaining. You can tell the writer's primary focus every episode was what can they have Elka do next to keep people watching for Betty White. I think the other girls were in Betty's shadow on this show.
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is my first rewatch since the series ended and I'm really liking Melanie's stories. My favorite Melanie moment so far is the Hot & Heavy episode. I love how she uses Snow White as her sex addict story and says, "I think they were miners" but the group thought she meant "minors"
So you’re back somewhere around mid season 3? It would have been cool if our rewatches were more synced up, but alas, life isn’t perfect like that.

Well, in here I’m only spoiling Melanie storylines (unless of course another of the 3 main characters is heavily involved), so let’s see what Ms. Moretti is up to this week

Season 4- Episode 17- No Glove, No Love
Alec brings up the subject of having kids, which leads to his and Melanie’s visions of what that would be like. Needless to say, they’re polar opposites. He really wants them, she doesn’t, leading to her breaking up with him for his own happiness.

Although they agree that’s awkward since they live and work together.

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Season 4 Episode 18- The Fixer

Okay, let's see...

Melanie, still upset about the break up with Alec, gets drunk at a bar, passes out, and ends in bed with a guy, but he says nothing happened. The guy turns out to be a "fixer" who is going to help Victoria with Emmet's arrest.

Meanwhile, Melanie goes to see her new gynecologist, who turns out to be this guy

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and they set up a date.

But the fixer insists the only way he'll help is if Victoria gets Melanie to go out with him. Melanie agrees to do it the night before her doctor date, but the doctor shows up to return something. Finding out what's going on, he leaves.

But she makes another appointment to see him and they make up.

Phew......
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Season 4 Episode 19- Look Who's Hot Now
Yet another clip show/blooper episode. This one doubles as a promotion for Kirstie Alley's then upcoming TV Land sitcom Kirstie
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Why yes ! As a matter of fact she is! A big slut, a huge tramp, a Jezebel, a harlot ! In biblical times they would have thrown stones at her!!!
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Why yes ! As a matter of fact she is! A big slut, a huge tramp, a Jezebel, a harlot ! In biblical times they would have thrown stones at her!!!
Too early for final judgement. About 50 more episodes of hijinks to go before I offer my final ruling.

But if someone doesn't know what my final decision will be they don't know me very well
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And where's Wawwie? Wawwie inspired this thread, and it's title, and who I consider co-owner and is entitled to half the profits we make in here.

Which so far is $0, but hey, you never know.
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Season 4 Episode 20- Cleveland Indians
Another with no Melanie storyline.
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Season 4 Episode 21- Corpse Bride
Melanie goes to break up with Harry (who we’ve never seen or heard about before) and finds him dead. They find an engagement ring he had bought and she has it on when some of his family comes over and they think the two of them were engaged. This leads to Melanie hosting his wake and having to do a “grieving fiancé eulogy”. She doesn’t know how, but we then learn Joy was hiding the fact the father that had abandoned Joy’s family and she had barely known had recently died and she had written some things to try and get through her feelings. Melanie appropriates the speech for Harry’s eulogy.
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Season 4 Episode 22- All My Exes
Visiting Victoria in the hospital, Melanie and Joy “compete” over a guy in a coma.

(I remember Friends doing a similar story)
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Season 4 Episode 23- Love Is All Around
Another kind of/sort of group blind date episode (except Victoria's, who since she's in love and engaged, is of the business variety). Melanie's date is with a plastic surgeon, but things go awry when she asks what he might do to improve her, and he offers too many suggestions.

But the main thrust of the episode is the reunion of Elka's old bowling team, which is a reunion of the female actors from The Mary Tyler Moore Show.

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Season 4 Episode 24- The Man That Got Away
Season finale. Most of the major events involve Victoria and Joy. For our purposes, Melanie finds out from a doctor a mole is non-cancerous and becomes a "life is beautiful" person. At the very end of the episode a different doctor calls and tells her she's pregnant.

To Be Continued.....


Trivia- Melanie says her middle name is Hope
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Season 5 Episode 1- Stayin' Alive
Season premiere. Originally broadcast live.

All cliffhangers from the previous episode put on hold till next week. This is an ep about being everyone held hostage in a cabin.
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Season 5 Episode 2- Surprise!
Melanie goes to tell Alec she’s pregnant and finds him living with his new girlfriend.

Jumping to the end:

Good news— Melanie’s not pregnant. It was a false positive.

Bad news- The false positive was caused by a brain tumor. Oh no
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