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Old 04-18-2016, 02:59 PM   #181
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I just e-mailed Martin Yant (PI interviewed for this segment), and asked him directly if Paul Freshour did indeed admit to writing 40 to 50 letters. Hopefully he replies.
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There was a YT video linked in one of the threads, which was a local 3 minute news story on the case. It was made in 2012, when Paul was still alive. They interviewed a local man (who received letters) as well as Martin Yant (the PI interviewed in the episode). It was more or less a "remember this" type of story, but there was one part in it that stood out. Martin Yant makes a comment towards the end of the video about how the letter writer seemed deeply interested in local politics, and how Freshour wasn't from nor did he live in the county where Circleville was located. Just another interesting tidbit that was left out of the UM show, although it was hinted at.


Paul is dead now?
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Paul is dead now?
Yeah, he passed away a year or two ago.
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Ok, sorry to keep bumping this thread, and I'm still waiting to hear back from Martin Yant, but I did some more digging, and found some possibly new details.

Freshour was adamant that he never confessed to writing 40-50 letters like the link on the first page suggests:

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Sheriff Radcliff informed the Columbus Dispatch newspaper that I admitted to writing 40 or 50 of the obscene and threatening letters, but I never did. He claimed I admitted this on the night of my arrest. On the night of my arrest he recorded me on a little red recorder. Why didn't he record this confession on tape, which would have been scientific evidence? This recording would have been it, a confession on recording, but he couldn't because I never confessed to any letters, yet this was headline news in the Dispatch.
Also, at Freshour's trial, the judge ruled that had he taken the stand (thereby 'opening himself up' to scrutiny by the prosecution), the letters and signs would then be admissible and would be used against him. So there is a valid reasoning behind Freshour not taking the stand at his trial.

There has been some speculation on here about Freshour possibly writing some of the letters, with his wife helping him out and continuing to write them while he was in prison. However, prior to his trial, they had already been through a messy divorce where Freshour kept the house, and had custody of their children. Freshour also brings up a good point about the divorce proceedings:

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Here which is fact, a woman during a divorce proceeding loses, her children, home and everything, yet she doesn't tell the Divorce Court, Judge Rose, that her husband was writing obscene and threatening letters. My ex-wife lived with Mary Gillispie and tells Mary, "My husband wrote the obscene and threatening letters." However, she told no one for years and only when she lost everything in Divorce Court.
There was also some interesting information about how another bus driver testified to seeing only a sign (where Mary Gillespie eventually claimed to have found the booby trap), and how the booby trap should have been in plain view of anyone driving by. The implication was that Mary was the one who saw the sign and added the booby trap to help frame Freshour.

And remember the part in the segment where they all got together and wrote a letter to the person whom they suspected of being behind the threatening letters? I might have found out the identity of this person. It comes from reddit (I know), but this poster certainly seems to know a lot about the case, and appears to be local:

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I've followed this story for years. Before he passed, Paul Freshour lived maybe 15-20 minutes from my previous house in a not so very nice section of Grove City, OHIO. I often thought about stopping by his house but never did. Didn't think it would be appropriate. He then passed away. I recall reading that there were apparently two people who were writing all of the Circleville letters. This was based on two very different writing styles of letters received. Most of the letters were the blocked style format that you see in the UM episode. Apparently, all the letters were mailed from a Columbus OHIO zip code. I don't know which one. In the UM episode, they elude to the fact that when the Gillespies and Freshours got together to review they letters Mary had received, they felt they knew who the letter writer was. I read somewhere else this was due to the fact that Mary had received letters from two sources. The classic block style writer and another set by someone who actually signed the letters. They signed the letters as "W". The Gillespies and Freshours felt "W" stood for William, or Gordon Massie's son Bill. Gordon Massie was the superintendent of Westfall High School and the individual Mary was supposedly having an affair with. I grew up in Circleville and did not live far from the Massie home. Gordon was not well thought of. A functioning alcoholic at best. I recall no one thinking much of his son. A real trouble maker. So, if you're in the area of Pickaway County and really interested in this, look up Bill Massie if he's still around. I bet he knows something. Also, in the UM episode, another bus driver had drove by the area where Mary found the gun booby trap about 20 minutes before Mary drove by. She testified seeing a man there and a somewhat unique car. It was a Yellow Chevy El Camino. On her official report, someone (Sheriff Radcliff) had changed it to Orange. Even the woman who gave testimony about this was surprised and said many times that it was Yellow, not Orange and not sure why it was changed. At the time, someone had investigated the number of Yellow El Caminos (from that approximate year vehicle) that were sold in the Pickaway County area. One, maybe two? They traced them all down and found that one belonged to the brother of a man that was always a "person of interest" in the Circleville Letter Writer cases. But that was over 30 years ago.
It would make perfect sense for the son of the superintendent to want the affair between he and Mary to end. The letters made many references to the superintendent's wife and how she was such an upstanding woman. Her son would definitely have the motive to do this.
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Very good points!

I must have missed the days where Paul Freshour came to the boards to defend himself. Damn! I'm kicking myself for missing that. I would have actually enjoyed talking to him as opposed to antagonizing Paul Pollis (which was awesome, don't get me wrong.)

I never understood why people held it against Freshour that he chose not to testify. It's his constitutional right to not do so. Never ceases to confuse me.
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Very good points!

I must have missed the days where Paul Freshour came to the boards to defend himself. Damn! I'm kicking myself for missing that. I would have actually enjoyed talking to him as opposed to antagonizing Paul Pollis (which was awesome, don't get me wrong.)

I never understood why people held it against Freshour that he chose not to testify. It's his constitutional right to not do so. Never ceases to confuse me.
FWI, those quotes from Freshour were taken from a list of documents he sent over to the FBI.

You can read them here:

https://circlevilleletters.files.wor...full-story.pdf
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FWI, those quotes from Freshour were taken from a list of documents he sent over to the FBI.

You can read them here:

https://circlevilleletters.files.wor...full-story.pdf
I've read those documents before, but it's been a few years. I remember Freshour denying that he wrote the Circlueville letters. I don't ever remember him admitting to writing even one letter, save for the letter the "handwriting expert" had him imitate. (I use the quotations because that analysis of his handwriting was a freaking joke.)
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Says who? The night that Ron was murdered, where was Mary? Tell me that.
Well played Charlie99909. I was thinking the same thing when I was watching the episode. Kinda strange that its night time and where is the wife.

Or maybe the call was a tip off from someone that the wife was with superintendent, and dude was going to handle his business. but was to drunk and ended up crashing.
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Very good points!

I must have missed the days where Paul Freshour came to the boards to defend himself. Damn! I'm kicking myself for missing that. I would have actually enjoyed talking to him as opposed to antagonizing Paul Pollis (which was awesome, don't get me wrong.)

I never understood why people held it against Freshour that he chose not to testify. It's his constitutional right to not do so. Never ceases to confuse me.

That guy was on here(Paul Pollis) that must have been a some thread. Every time I see that episode I SMH. LOL
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That guy was on here(Paul Pollis) that must have been a some thread. Every time I see that episode I SMH. LOL
Yeah. I'll have to try to find that thread. It was pretty crazy. He started out insisting he was just Paul's "friend," which no one bought. Then he did cop up to being Paul Pollis.

Good times, good times.

Back to the INNOCENT Paul... I'm not sure if TheCars posted his conversations with Martin Yant on here (pretty sure he did) and Yant was convinced the writer of the letters was actually two or more folks, neither of which were Mary Gillispie.

I can see where suspicion would fall on her for her husband's death... but I just don't see it. I think Mr. Gillispie had been drinking, got a phone call that perhaps tipped him off to where Mary and paramour may be having a rendezvous, and got into a car accident while driving to that location. I think the gun going off was just an accident and not related to the fatal car crash. Just my opinion.
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Very good points!

I must have missed the days where Paul Freshour came to the boards to defend himself. Damn! I'm kicking myself for missing that. I would have actually enjoyed talking to him as opposed to antagonizing Paul Pollis (which was awesome, don't get me wrong.)

I never understood why people held it against Freshour that he chose not to testify. It's his constitutional right to not do so. Never ceases to confuse me.
And Paul's case is a good example of why you should always exercise the 5th. Innocent people can get caught up in a lot of nonsense in police investigations and the more you talk, the more you incriminate yourself (even if innocent).

That said, I suspect if Paul didn't write the letters, someone he knew well did. I don't think he's totally innocent in all of this but I do think he was railroaded pretty hard.
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That said, I suspect if Paul didn't write the letters, someone he knew well did. I don't think he's totally innocent in all of this but I do think he was railroaded pretty hard.
Paul didn't write the "CW" letters. He admitted to writing 3 to 4 letters (along with the Gillespie's and his wife) to the man they suspected of being the CW. He admitted this to Radcliffe, and unfortunately they used this against him. His ex-wife they began the frame up job, with the help of her then boyfriend and some members of her family. Freshour is most certainly totally innocent. The CW letters were sent to numerous people in Circleville, and seemed to show a devoted interest/hatred in local politics, especially within the school system. Freshour lived in a different county altogether, while working 50 hours a week at a beer plant. I don't see how: Freshour would even know enough about Circleville to get interested (or even care for that matter) about local politics, or how he would have the time to write the massive amount of letters being sent.
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Well played Charlie99909. I was thinking the same thing when I was watching the episode. Kinda strange that its night time and where is the wife.

Or maybe the call was a tip off from someone that the wife was with superintendent, and dude was going to handle his business. but was to drunk and ended up crashing.

They were together on an overnight trip, Mary's sister was present also.
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Paul didn't write the "CW" letters. He admitted to writing 3 to 4 letters (along with the Gillespie's and his wife) to the man they suspected of being the CW. He admitted this to Radcliffe, and unfortunately they used this against him. His ex-wife they began the frame up job, with the help of her then boyfriend and some members of her family. Freshour is most certainly totally innocent. The CW letters were sent to numerous people in Circleville, and seemed to show a devoted interest/hatred in local politics, especially within the school system. Freshour lived in a different county altogether, while working 50 hours a week at a beer plant. I don't see how: Freshour would even know enough about Circleville to get interested (or even care for that matter) about local politics, or how he would have the time to write the massive amount of letters being sent.
Once again, remember that the letters kept going on well into Paul's jail sentance.

A friend of mine got a 'Mystery letter' telling him that someone was going to blow up his business/part of town at a fuel depot near Downtown unless they stopped selling fuel to the local school district where Mary worked. You're talking YEARS after this all went down. Whomever it was held a pretty serious grudge, and there's been some talk (And I'd have to dig up names) of some locals dying in 2003-2004 that were suspects, and the rare occasion letter stopped coming in.
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Once again, remember that the letters kept going on well into Paul's jail sentance.

A friend of mine got a 'Mystery letter' telling him that someone was going to blow up his business/part of town at a fuel depot near Downtown unless they stopped selling fuel to the local school district where Mary worked. You're talking YEARS after this all went down. Whomever it was held a pretty serious grudge, and there's been some talk (And I'd have to dig up names) of some locals dying in 2003-2004 that were suspects, and the rare occasion letter stopped coming in.
The Circleville Writer was a man named David Longberry.

Here's another thread going into detail.
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