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Old 09-22-2007, 10:08 PM   #1
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Default Unsolved's biggest "what the..." moments

Okay, I'll start.

Lesa Lee: (you can tell my copy of vol 11 arrived today, and I wasted no time popping it in.)

1. They actually captured her, but decide to let her go after believing the ransom story (I don't know about then, but that line is extremely old nowadays.) making this story even weirder is that Lesa Lee never contacts the police on her own accord.

2. Her probation officer spots her working at the bank, but never says anything.

I'm sure Unsolved has had plenty "what the..." moments, can you's think of others?
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The following is a recent "What the . . " reference in my observations re the L'Enfant segment:

The L'Enfant episode featured one of the best WTF moments in UM history. The victim is in a behavioral/mental health unit somewhere attempting to maintain his sanity after the onslaught of anonymous calls from L'Enfant. He walks up to the duty nurse and asks her if he received any messages, and she responds, "L'Enfant called twice, and ..." WTF! Nurse do you mind not telling the patient that the person whose terrorized him and possibly kidnapped him and his son is still trying to contact him?!? And BTW, can we please run a trace at least once out of the 1,112 times he calls?
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A couple of WTF moments just off the top of my head.

How did Russell Evans show laces become sperated from his shoes?

How did those guys not know Liz Carmichael was a man?
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The following is a recent "What the . . " reference in my observations re the L'Enfant segment:

The L'Enfant episode featured one of the best WTF moments in UM history. The victim is in a behavioral/mental health unit somewhere attempting to maintain his sanity after the onslaught of anonymous calls from L'Enfant. He walks up to the duty nurse and asks her if he received any messages, and she responds, "L'Enfant called twice, and ..." WTF! Nurse do you mind not telling the patient that the person whose terrorized him and possibly kidnapped him and his son is still trying to contact him?!? And BTW, can we please run a trace at least once out of the 1,112 times he calls?
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How did those guys not know Liz Carmichael was a man?
There are two major "WTF Moments" on that story.

1.) NO ONE that worked for her thought she was a man???

2.) The people that worked for her were "so committed" to the Dale that they wanted to go on even after Liz and build it. Folks, the car did not, would not, and will not ever exist. Seem hard to believe a car can get 70 MPG and be crash resistant for $3000? Hell, yes -- cause it ain't possible!

"Committed"? The people at that company need to be committed -- to a psych ward.

That segment had "WTF" written all over it.
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Biggest wut the... moment for me is anytime a story seems so simple or they know who the perpetrator is(e.g. burkett/bright) and the end of the story comes.....and no update. Wut the?
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I was just watching the segment the other day featuring the shooting death of that Nashville music promoter and his buddy "Sammy" something. Now, I've seen the City Confidential episode about this so I know the crim wasn't comitted by "some black guy", but I had a "whut the..." moment during the UM re-enactment o fthe crime.

As the shooter, having already shot Sammy the Seal, begins to chase Kevin down, the shot changes from behind the car seeing Kevin run off camera from the driver's side - to an overhead shot facing the direction Kevin began running with the killer stepping into frame.

For a split second, you can see someone in the driver's seat of the car Kevin was murdered by. The person, I can't tell if its a he-person or a she-person, lays down across to the passenger seat as the gunman steps into frame.

"WHUT THE...?!"

Was there a witness sitting in that car? How come UM didn't mention that person? Was it just a UM set worker who forgot to get out of the shot?
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Here's another one...

THE ENTIRE TIM MCCLURE STORY.

From start to finish that story should have "WTF?" posted all over it. The first time I saw it, I actually laughed out loud when it said Tim failed the lie detector test and his wife failed only one question: "Who killed Tim's mom?"

Hard to believe he was later arrested for that crime.
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Here's another one...

THE ENTIRE TIM MCCLURE STORY.

From start to finish that story should have "WTF?" posted all over it. The first time I saw it, I actually laughed out loud when it said Tim failed the lie detector test and his wife failed only one question: "Who killed Tim's mom?"

Hard to believe he was later arrested for that crime.
tell me about it

There are some people on UM that, I'm not sure if they're innocent or not, but they at least have believable stories and rationale explanations to what happened (think Jeffrey MacDonald, Stuart Heaton, Glen Consagra, Larry Race, etc.)

McClure's response to everything that makes him look guilty: "I'm not sure how that could have happened."

I'm going to do a little bit of odds calculating, these are my estimates:

1. Tim says that he waited until last to check the casino where his mother was found dead because he had a "bad hunch" about it. But if you knew she was going to turn up there, why waste all that time checking other places? Odds of Tim's hunch being correct without having advanced knowledge: 1 in 100.

2. Tim looks for Mrs. McClure's purse without knowing that it was stolen, and not only that, but miraculously finds it. Odds of Tim not having any advanced knowledge of this: 1 in 10,000

3. Tim takes out a life insurance policy shortly before Mrs. McClure turns up dead. The main three motives for murder cases are drugs, money and sex. Nothing was missing from Mrs. McClures purse, ruling out money, and drugs and sex can pretty much be eliminated, which leaves Tim has the only person with a motive. Odds of someone else having a motive: 1 in 100.

4. Tim claims that the credit card person put the wrong date on the form (Tim claims that he canceled the card after his mother died, but the form says he did it beforehand) According to Tim, the clerk was off by three days. Now I work third shift, which means I always work in two different days, so I occasinally put the wrong date: one off either way. But someone missing the correct date by 3 whole days is albiet rare. Odds of the clerk being wrong: 1 in 100.

5. Tim's alibi states he was gambling alone. But who gambles alone after getting married? It's like saying, Ok I married you, I want to be alone now. Furthermore, no one can remember seeing him in the casino despite that he is like 6 foot 6, has long hair and is wearing a tux. Odds of believabability of Tim's alibi: 1 in 100.

6. Tim and his fiancee both fail the lie detector test. Odds of them both failing it but telling the truth: 1 in 100.

7. At the start of the program, Stack says this is a rare instance where someone tries to clear their name (Tim). Not once does Tim ever talk about finding the "real killer" or for that matter, seem angry/sad that it happened. His only interest is clearing his name. Odds of someone not being STEAMED about their mother's death: 1 in 100.

Overall odds of Tim being innocent: 1 in ten quadrillion.

but I'm open for discussion about this one.
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Overall odds of Tim being innocent: 1 in ten quadrillion.

but I'm open for discussion about this one.
LMAO! That is freaking hilarious...

Tim McClure is either the dumbest or the most arrogant person in UM history. And you are right about the "real killers" part. He never wants justice for his mom, only aquittal for himself.

Maybe old Timmy should contact O.J. so they can hunt down the "real killers" together.

Excellent post, wiseguy!
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LMAO! That is freaking hilarious...

Tim McClure is either the dumbest or the most arrogant person in UM history. And you are right about the "real killers" part. He never wants justice for his mom, only aquittal for himself.

Maybe old Timmy should contact O.J. so they can hunt down the "real killers" together.

Excellent post, wiseguy!
thanks. Honest to God, I thought of OJ when typing that post.

But wait...there's more:

8. Not one single person recalls seeing Tim nor his wife from 10 pm to roughly 6 the next day. That's an eight hour block of time, and you had to figure the casino was going to be busy. Not one single person. I did get somewhat of a chuckle when Tim said "if anybody saw me there, now would be a good time to come forward" LOL. 8 hours is long time to not be able to account for your actions, moreover for two persons.

9. Anyone find it a tad odd that a 62 or 63 year old woman would go to a casino alone, after 10:30 pm when she could have gone to a casino and been with your son on his wedding night, and have him with his 6'5 frame accompany her in case she won some money, which is why people go to casinos in the first place.

better make that 1 in 100 quadrillion

Also curious why it took so long to find the body.
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Hard to believe he was later arrested for that crime.

He was arrested after the UM segment? Can you link me to any current info.?
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He was arrested after the UM segment? Can you link me to any current info.?
I remember when they replayed it (it might even have been Lifetime) they had a short update that said he had been arrested and charged with murder.

I can't find anything on Google and I don't remember any other updates on the story. I vividly remember the update though because I remember thinking "Duh" when it said they arrested him.

I'm wondering where else we could find info on that story... Does anyone else remember that update??? I don't want to be labeled a crack smoker.

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interesting how they try to sway you towards Tim McClure's way of thinking, partially by playing up his shock and bewilderment that he was being considered a suspect.
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HAHAHAHAHA! Totally!
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