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Old 05-16-2010, 07:37 PM   #31
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Let get real here in the "Not my Son" Suicides there are discrepancies like he was cold when we got home but the police said he had just died its small things. In this case it is not a small series discrepancies the man is identified by a security guard who saw him two or three times and the body he saw was rotten so combine the two and any ID is suspect. Mr. Tondval curiously say what he want done with his body he wants it cremated this is often what a husband who kills his wife done so as to get rid of all the evidence here it is done for the same reason if your killing yourself the last thing on your mind is what you want done with your body. Another thing the man is a con-artist who better to pull a scam like this. It was just another scam he used to shake the police.IDK what do you guys think a feel sorry for Mrs Berry it seems like in her later year it was one tragedy after another sad.
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In the early 80's I was working in a specialty food shop in Knoxville called The Gourmet's Market and Dan Tondevold was a regular customer. I asked him about the origin of his name and he said he was Danish. I mentioned that I had a good friend from Aarhus and he said he had never heard of it. Aarhus is the second largest city in Denmark. I wonder how many Americans have never heard of Chicago?

I'm American and I know what city Aarhus is and where its from . Hell, I've never even been to Denmark.


Throughout the segment I was weary that he wasn't from where he claimed to be. To me, it was just a cover. After all, everything about him was fake. It could have been very likely that he was just an American faking an accent, or from an obscure Eastern European country.
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Old 03-10-2011, 12:08 AM   #33
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And I have no idea why so many people here and on YouTube are debating whether or not the guy that was found dead was actually him or not. There are even people who think he did kill himself.

Its too ****ing obvious that it wasn't him. You really, really think that someone was going to let all those years manipulating, lying, and decieving go to waste? Its fishy enough that Tondevold told Ellen Berry that he was going to drive alone back to the estate, but even more so that he had her dump all her jewelry and furs in the car because it was "safer." Then when she got home all the priceless heirlooms and antiques were missing.
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And I have no idea why so many people here and on YouTube are debating whether or not the guy that was found dead was actually him or not. There are even people who think he did kill himself.

Its too ****ing obvious that it wasn't him. You really, really think that someone was going to let all those years manipulating, lying, and decieving go to waste? Its fishy enough that Tondevold told Ellen Berry that he was going to drive alone back to the estate, but even more so that he had her dump all her jewelry and furs in the car because it was "safer." Then when she got home all the priceless heirlooms and antiques were missing.
Actually no it's not. For various reasons. The most obvious is that the detectives say that during the time before the death he was never seen in the company of anyone. The least most interesting reason is at the crime scene someone had to idtentify him. If no one did, they wouldn't have said it was Dan Toldevold.

It also depends on how long Toldevold was swindling people. He obviously knew it was getting hot when they told him the credit cards were maxed out and they required a payment. If he was to get caught (which was the likely outcome), maybe more of his past would have been revealed. Or if he wasn't Toldevold, his true identity. He had a lot to lose from being brought in to be questioned by authorities.

What I'd really like to know is if Ellen Berry was informed of him swindling her. Why did she keep him in as power of attorney? All she would have to do is call the banks, accountant, her attorney, someone within the estate to have him removed. It's easy to remove POA from someone.
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It seemed so obvious that he was a con-artist and yet no one questioned him being there really.
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I think that Mr Tondevold is definitely alive. I don't think that's his real name either, and I don't think that Mrs. Berry was the only one he robbed, I'm sure there were more before her and since. Why would someone go through all that time, effort and trouble to steal all that money, jewels, furs & other valuable items and kill themself? Doesn't make sense! The guy obviously killed a look-a-like; probably befriended him and then killed him and passed him off as Tondevold; then assumed the guy he murdered's identity and is living the life of a king with all of Mrs. Berry's money. Im surprised that this guy didn't try to take her home, he obviously wanted to take everything she had and leave her destitute, which he did. This guy is total scum, and I hope he scam's the wrong person and they finally do him in for good!

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I just watched this case and was wondering, didnt they say that he left a will? who were his beneficiaries? thats what i'd like to know. I'm sure he contacted them several months after the body was discovered and cremated and got "his" money back after offering a moderate amount of money to the person involved,be it a relative or what have you.
I dont doubt that he would kill himself if he thought he would be incarcerated,but the whole business with that body being found so far out and in such bad condition and that he specifically requested the body be immediately cremated..bollocks. Hes alive. He was smart enough to orchestrate this whole schmagilla then hes clever enough to come up with a way to keep it. the jerk.
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I think that Mr Tondevold is definitely alive. I don't think that's his real name either, and I don't think that Mrs. Berry was the only one he robbed, I'm sure there were more before her and after. Why would someone go through all that time, effort and trouble to steal all that money, jewels, furs & other valuable items and kill themself? Doesn't make sense! The guy obviously killed a look-a-like; probably befriended him and then killed him and passed him off as Tondevold; then assumed the guy he murdered's identity and is living the life of a king with all of Mrs. Berry's money. Im surprised that this guy didn't try to take her home, he obviously wanted to take everything she had and leave her destitute, which he did. This guy is total scum, and I hope he scam's the wrong person and they finally do him in for good!
The name Dan Tondevold came up in that Las Vegas High School Yearbook back in the 50's didn't it? it must have been his real name.
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I just watched this case and was wondering, didnt they say that he left a will? who were his beneficiaries? thats what i'd like to know. I'm sure he contacted them several months after the body was discovered and cremated and got "his" money back after offering a moderate amount of money to the person involved,be it a relative or what have you.
I dont doubt that he would kill himself if he thought he would be incarcerated,but the whole business with that body being found so far out and in such bad condition and that he specifically requested the body be immediately cremated..bollocks. Hes alive. He was smart enough to orchestrate this whole schmagilla then hes clever enough to come up with a way to keep it. the jerk.
All his will said was to cremate him. Funny huh?
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The guy obviously killed a look-a-like; probably befriended him and then killed him and passed him off as Tondevold; then assumed the guy he murdered's identity and is living the life of a king with all of Mrs. Berry's money.
Ewww I didnt even think about that. He might have assumed that guys identity considering he probably passed his decomposed body off as his own.
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Tondevold may not have been Mrs. Berry's son but they sure looked eerily similar imo.
The first thought that ran through my mind when I started watching this case and they mentioned Hugh is that perhaps he left the sanitarium, bode his time and transformed himself into Tondevold to get revenge on his mother for how his inheritance went down. Now we know that isn't the case.

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The name Dan Tondevold came up in that Las Vegas High School Yearbook back in the 50's didn't it? it must have been his real name.
Did they conclusively prove it was him though? Someone said earlier that Tondevold is a fairly common name in the US. Perhaps there was another guy with that name or he did grow up in Las Vegas and assumed this guy's identity because he looked similar.

I'm also disturbed about the dog part though. It would help to know if he had a dog.
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yes i believe the third party was the young man Ms Berry sent to boarding school. He got kicked out due to money being taken, he had motive!!!!!! I know him as he is the father of my children, my ex husband, I do believe he had a role in this, i just have no factualy proof, tho the handwriting on the suicide note looks very similiar!!!! and he is rollin in dough some 20+ years later....hmmmmmmmm
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1. Most likely Dan met Mrs. Berry at some function, Dan probably was stalking her and just looked for an opening to meet her and charm his way into her life.

2. Good question, I believe there may be another party that helped Tondevald with the money side of things. Perhaps the dead body is that second party.

3. This is the biggest argument against Dan being alive. If there was a a dead chauffeur, that person would most likely be missed, even if he was unmarried. Perhaps this person was a vagrant or disreputable person. Someone desperate enough to take Dan's offer.
yes I believe there is a third party...I was married to him! He was sent to boarding school by Ms.Berry and was kicked out due to lack of $. She hired him as a youngster to do yard work for her because he came from a poor family and he too reminded her of her son. She sent him to boarding school to get him out of his situation, and he was angry when he got brought home. He had motive and cried about the whole thing to my mother one night in my parents living room, I think he was telling "his version" so he could get it out to someone, but i do believe he is the missing link, i Just dont have solid proof.
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Your all full of crap... Dan tondevold is my uncle!!! He is from vegas. He lived in santa Barbara for years.
Dan Tondevold was born in Idaho, his grandfather came to this country from Norway. He had a sister who passed in 1995, she had a daughter named Cynthia so the person on this forum known as Cindy5 could very well be his niece. He lived in Vegas and also California. He was gay and was linked to a famous british director who still lives in NY. He had a life with friends and family and yet no one talks about what they know. I wish these people would do an interview for UM so they could post an update.
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