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Old 04-25-2007, 01:51 AM   #136
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Look Guys Im One Of Those Members Here That Do More Reading Than Posting But I Am Posting This To Say That What If?? What If We Are On To Something?? Lets Face It - We Are The Only People Pretty Much In The World Talking About These Cold Cases That Have Fallen Into Obscurity - What If We Can Make Some Noise And Notify That Parsons Detective Guy From The Hammond Segment And At Least Mention It To Him To Look Into This? A While Back I Broke It To You Guys That Angela Was Pregnant With Robs Baby When Abducted - I Wouldn't Be Posting This If I Didn't Feel That Maybe We Can Make A Difference - Think About It.
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Look Guys Im One Of Those Members Here That Do More Reading Than Posting But I Am Posting This To Say That What If?? What If We Are On To Something?? Lets Face It - We Are The Only People Pretty Much In The World Talking About These Cold Cases That Have Fallen Into Obscurity - What If We Can Make Some Noise And Notify That Parsons Detective Guy From The Hammond Segment And At Least Mention It To Him To Look Into This? A While Back I Broke It To You Guys That Angela Was Pregnant With Robs Baby When Abducted - I Wouldn't Be Posting This If I Didn't Feel That Maybe We Can Make A Difference - Think About It.
I agree with you but I wonder whether we should go to the police first or the media. The problem with going to the dectectives first would be they may just blow this off, being that if it turns out these men are guilty of this crime investigators would have some egg on their face. The information that we have uncovered has been right under their noses since at least 1994. It just boggles my mind that when this prosecutor brought these writings by Jess Rush into evidence they didnt look into the other crimes he spoke of. If we go to the local media with the new information it will force the police to check into it. Any thoughts or ideas on the best way to present this? If this does turn out to be the case cracker I just want to make sure that everyone on this webforum gets the credit for it, there has been alot of debate and discussion over the past year that has brought us to where we are now everyone should share in the credit.
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Ok so if there were two or more people in the van then does that not differ from Rob's version? he made no mention of anybody else other than the driver which is highly unlikely, also would it not be smarter for one to drive while the other one holds her down or ties her up out of sight in the back rather than driving around with a screaming woman in the front while the guy twiddles his thumbs out of sight?
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Ok so if there were two or more people in the van then does that not differ from Rob's version? he made no mention of anybody else other than the driver which is highly unlikely, also would it not be smarter for one to drive while the other one holds her down or ties her up out of sight in the back rather than driving around with a screaming woman in the front while the guy twiddles his thumbs out of sight?
Rob got a glimpse of them speeding by him, he may very well of not seen the other person in the truck. It could have been that the accomplice was in the process of tying her up when she was able to raise her head, see Rob driving by and scream. Also they were in a pick up truck, not a van. So if they would have been in the back they would not have been out of sight.
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Kane - Then Maybe The Media Might Be The 1st Best Thing - You Guys Never Know What We May Be Onto - Lets Also Just Keep In Mind What Was Slightly Mentioned A Little While Ago Too (which I Kept At The Back Of My Mind) - Kenneth Mcduff's Assistant, Hank Worley In The Abduction Of Colleen Reed Looks A Lot Like The Decription That Angela Gave That Night - You Never Know - Lets Keep Talking About This Guys.
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Kane - Then Maybe The Media Might Be The 1st Best Thing - You Guys Never Know What We May Be Onto - Lets Also Just Keep In Mind What Was Slightly Mentioned A Little While Ago Too (which I Kept At The Back Of My Mind) - Kenneth Mcduff's Assistant, Hank Worley In The Abduction Of Colleen Reed Looks A Lot Like The Decription That Angela Gave That Night - You Never Know - Lets Keep Talking About This Guys.
I have been searching for more court records in the Trudy Darby case. All I can come up with are some documents from the appeals court concerning Jess Rush. I have been able to find excerpts from the 13 letters he wrote in which he mentions committing similar crimes but have not yet had any success finding them in their entirety. I have found no information as to the trial of Marvin Chaney, other then the fact that he has what appears to be the same type of sentence as Rush, life without parole. Rush metioned to police during his confession that there were three people involved in Darby's kidnapping, rape and murder. I have had no luck finding the identity of the 3rd person, does this mean we have someone that was involved in this terrible crime still walking the streets today. Whether it was Chaney and Rush or Mcduff's buddy one thing is for sure, none of them are going to admit it. There is nothing to plea bargin for here, if any of them were to come clean they would only be giving themselves a death sentence. Therefore its going to take alot of investigative work to pin it on any of the three. First we need to know who is the third person involved in the Darby murder, Second we need to know if a truck matching the one Rob Shaffer saw take Angela was ever registered to Chaney or the 3 rd accomplice. Third, police need to take all of the witnesses that Rush told about killing Trudy and interview them again. Its quite possible he bragged about killing Angela or Cheryl Kenney and they didnt take him seriously at the time. Lastly they should interview inmates that have had contact with Rush since he was sentenced, the guy is so ignorant he may still be bragging to this day.

If you read Rush's writings its obvious he is a derranged killer. He openly talks about how he enjoys raping and killing women even going so far as to say he wanted to "rape her then shoot her in the head and watch her brains come out". Now, we know for a fact he is guilty of Trudy Darby's murder, we also know there are two other dissappearances of young women in the same general area and in the same time frame. Its interesting to note that in one of Rush's rantings he states that if they only would have burned Darby's body they would have gotten away with it. Now do you think he is speaking from experience? Does he know for a fact that if you burn a body it will not be found? Does he know this because he has in fact done it and gotten away with it?
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Here is another Quote from the letters that Jess Rush wrote to the jailhouse lawyer:


I just wish my brother would have done like I said at the barn and burnt the bitch up but that ***** ass cheevers and parel desided to take the bitch to a ****in river instead. I was to ****ed up to argue with em all I wanted to do was **** the bitch then shoot her in the head to watch her brains come out. Sounds cool huh? . . . if the bitch would have not moved in the trunk at the river my brother wouldn't of had to shoot her in the head again just the have the cops find a shell the stupid mother ****er the only smart thing we did was have marshels brother greg burn the barn other wise the mother ****ers would have a lot more on us. im glad they don't know every thing else we did or i'd be on death row . . . . End Quote


So here we have him mentioning people with the names Cheevers and Parel also he says Marshalls brother Greg burned the barn to destroy evidence. So according to this we have three more people involved that were never charged. These are people that could be swayed to rat out each other if indeed they had knowledge of the other murders.
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Wow Kane - I just found out that Cheryl Ann Kenney's body was found in 2000 - I don't think this was ever reported here. Interestingly enough, that same site mentions the Darby case as still unsolved. (I tried to link this but i couldn't - if you google or yahoo "Charley Project Angela Hammond" you'll find the page.
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Wow Kane - I just found out that Cheryl Ann Kenney's body was found in 2000 - I don't think this was ever reported here. Interestingly enough, that same site mentions the Darby case as still unsolved. (I tried to link this but i couldn't - if you google or yahoo "Charley Project Angela Hammond" you'll find the page.
I looked at what your talking about and honestly I think they have that wrong. I have searched every newspaper in the state that is available online and there is no mention anywhere of Kenney's body being found. Keep in mind they are saying that her skeleton was found in 2000 and Darby's murder is still unsolved. By 1998 two men had been convicted in the Darby case, therefore I must question the accuracy of their information.
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Well Kane, I am still surprised you are not trying to bust Rob Shaffer's balls over Angela's disapperance. I mean if you cant find the guy who did it might as well settle on a guy who looks good right?

Wrong! Shaffer didnt do it, I know you were not saying that right now, but I honestly think if you had your way Shaffer would have been arrested and convicted and either serving time on death row or prison for a crime he did not commit.
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This case has always freaked me out. Like why was there no body ever found? I'm sure everyone must think ( I hate to say this) that she's no longer with us. There is no evidence or sightings to confirm that she is alive. I just wish that this case could be solved, so it would give her family some closure, so they can have an Idea of what happened. Its been how many years now?this case is so creepy, and i think that maybe it should be brought to people's attention about those to creeps that killed that other woman. From what that dude said, they didn't know what else they had done.....
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Well Kane, I am still surprised you are not trying to bust Rob Shaffer's balls over Angela's disapperance. I mean if you cant find the guy who did it might as well settle on a guy who looks good right?

Wrong! Shaffer didnt do it, I know you were not saying that right now, but I honestly think if you had your way Shaffer would have been arrested and convicted and either serving time on death row or prison for a crime he did not commit.
WTF? Have you been paying attention? was I not the one that came up with the timeline that showed it would have been virtually impossible for Rob to have been involved? Go back and read my prior posts on here, I did say that people I knew in Clinton did not beleive his story, but after talking to them more indepth I realized they had based that opinion on false information. None of the people who thought he was guilty had ever really dug into the case or looked at the evidence.
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Why do they even bother locking these inhuman cretins up? just put a bullet between their eyes, no morals, no brains, no reedeming qualities at all.


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I just wish my brother would have done like I said at the barn and burnt the bitch up but that ***** ass cheevers and parel desided to take the bitch to a ****in river instead. I was to ****ed up to argue with em all I wanted to do was **** the bitch then shoot her in the head to watch her brains come out. Sounds cool huh? . . . if the bitch would have not moved in the trunk at the river my brother wouldn't of had to shoot her in the head again just the have the cops find a shell the stupid mother ****er the only smart thing we did was have marshels brother greg burn the barn other wise the mother ****ers would have a lot more on us. im glad they don't know every thing else we did or i'd be on death row . . . . End Quote


So here we have him mentioning people with the names Cheevers and Parel also he says Marshalls brother Greg burned the barn to destroy evidence. So according to this we have three more people involved that were never charged. These are people that could be swayed to rat out each other if indeed they had knowledge of the other murders.
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Why do they even bother locking these inhuman cretins up? just put a bullet between their eyes, no morals, no brains, no reedeming qualities at all.
Well I agree with you on that, if we can get the investigators to start looking at Rush and Chaney maybe these scumbags will be removed from the earth. Not by a bullet to the head but a needle in the arm will suffice.
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Kind of stupid, but when I read this story today I got chills when I saw the name of the boy's mother.....(glad they caught this SOB, too)

Kidney transplant fugitive caught in Mexico

(CNN) -- A Kentucky man who had been on the lam for more than a year after he was released from jail to donate a kidney to his son was captured in Mexico on Wednesday, a deputy U.S. Marshal said.

Byron Perkins and his girlfriend, Lee Ann Howard, were captured in Puerto Vallarta on Mexico's Pacific coast, said Deputy U.S. Marshal Dawn Izgarjan.

The pair arrived Wednesday night in Los Angeles, where they face an initial court appearance Thursday.

Perkins was released from jail without bond by a federal judge in January 2006 so he could complete testing before donating a kidney to his teenage son, Destin. At the time, he was awaiting a possible life sentence following a conviction on drug, weapon and other charges.

Perkins was not wearing a tracking ankle bracelet because doctors told the court it would have interfered with medical tests.

Doctors said Perkins appeared to be a perfect match for his son. But on the final day of hospital tests, he failed to show up. Perkins left behind a letter promising he would "come through" for his son, who needed dialysis. U.S. Marshals put him on their "Most Wanted" list.

"I don't know how he could lay his head down at night, just knowing that he ran away and left me up here to die like that," Destin Perkins told CNN's Anderson Cooper after receiving news of his father's capture. "That's just one of my main questions, is why he did it and how he could do it."

Now 17, Destin Perkins received a kidney last August from an anonymous cadaver donor in California. "As of today, I'm doing fine, just fine," he said. "The kidney's working great."

Destin Perkins' mother, Angela Hammond, told CNN, "it's about time." She said she hopes Perkins can "sit and realize how he hurt his children."

Deputy U.S. Marshal Joe Chabarria, who accompanied Perkins and Howard on their flight to Los Angeles, told reporters the pair had come from the state of Colima and were "making their way back up" when they arrived in Puerto Vallarta. They were recognized while walking in the downtown area, he said.

"They knew they were being sought after," Chabarria said. He said the two "looked like they were tired. They were ready to come back."

Izgarjan, who is based in Louisville, Kentucky, told CNN the two had been working odd jobs in Mexico, never staying in one place too long. Before Puerto Vallarta, she said, they were in a town near Manzanillo.

"There's a lot of anger between me and him right now," Destin Perkins said. "I would like to see him and tell him what I think and just ask one question: Why he did it? It's kind of sad that he would run out on me like that."

At the time, he said, he was angry and depressed. "It really wasn't healthy on me at the time. I was 16 years old, and I had to worry about this."

His father's actions have hurt his entire family, he said, adding that his grandfather -- Byron Perkins' father -- has since died of cancer.

Asked if the pair should be in jail, he said, "That's where both of them deserve to be. As far as I'm concerned, the rest of their life, they both deserve to be behind bars."

CNN's Susan Candiotti contributed to this report.
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