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Old 05-24-2017, 02:36 PM   #76
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I know Tracey's mother mentioned in the segment that she found it hard to believe the killer could leave the store and not be seen by anybody.
That makes it the perfect crime. The killer never had to leave, and he called the police. I wonder where he hid the knife though.
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Since he said "a knife that I have with me at all times" he is probably one of those people who carry a knife with them always, and I agree, he got angry and that's all that was available (and, if it were the security guard, he probably couldn't carry a gun..but could always have his personal knife on him.)
FYI, security guards are allowed to carry a gun. There are a few factors that go into that however. The company itself has to have the proper permit in its jurisdiction and the guard carrying has to also have the proper permits. Another factor is if the customer wants the guard armed or not. I had to go through the entire process in my state to be a licensed private detective agency that has an armed permit. As the principle, it's up to me to get anyone that works for me permitted to carry while on the job. In Illinois it's called having a firearm control card. It allows one to carry while they are in the performance of their job.
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That makes it the perfect crime. The killer never had to leave, and he called the police. I wonder where he hid the knife though.
Only if he didn't get blood on himself while stabbing her, which is bound to be extremely difficult.

The theory, as placed by his daughter, was that he went home and changed into a clean suit and THEN came back to the store to "discover" the body and radio police. And that makes sense. You can't have the victim's blood all over you once the police have arrived.

That means he still had to leave in the first place. It might have helped if there was a door in the back storeroom where the altercation took place. A strip mall parking lot around 9:45ish at night, it would be difficult to get out of there undetected but not impossible.
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Only if he didn't get blood on himself while stabbing her, which is bound to be extremely difficult.

The theory, as placed by his daughter, was that he went home and changed into a clean suit and THEN came back to the store to "discover" the body and radio police. And that makes sense. You can't have the victim's blood all over you once the police have arrived.

That means he still had to leave in the first place. It might have helped if there was a door in the back storeroom where the altercation took place. A strip mall parking lot around 9:45ish at night, it would be difficult to get out of there undetected but not impossible.
Maybe. It's still weird that he went home covered in blood and no one saw/said anything. It's possible that he didn't get blood on him, or had a change of clothes in his car. I really wish they would've checked his car. I'm confident that knife was somewhere in his car.
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I know that Sean and Don turned out to be the same person. I'm still not clear on whether or not Sean/Don and the security guard are the same person? Can someone clarify please?
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I know that Sean and Don turned out to be the same person. I'm still not clear on whether or not Sean/Don and the security guard are the same person? Can someone clarify please?
It's kind of a confusing mess, to be honest.

According to the daughter, Don and Sean were roommates for a short while in Walkersville, MD. Walkersville was where Don's confession tape was tracked back to, in a phone booth outside a grocery store. Don eventually moved out but continued to pay rent to Sean for a few months, according to the daughter.

The man calling himself Sean was desperate to have Tracey's killer be caught and made contact with the psychic, Martha Woodworth. He was the one who sent all the newspaper clippings to her. The daughter thinks Sean was too scared to go to the police so that is why he contacted Martha. She thinks Martha was correct in that this person had 'a much stronger involvement,' than a casual observer but was mistaken about who's voice was on the tape.

However, the return address on Sean's envelope that the police investigated was to a man who was not named Don OR Sean. And this man was eventually cleared and is no longer a suspect. So again...it's confusing.
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I almost feel that, potentially the roommate of Don, was told the story of what happened by "Don" (the said murderer) and, like Dynoguy said, was afraid to go to the police or turn him in himself, but I feel like he called into the confession hotline with the story he was told and claimed to be Don, hoping that would draw suspicion to Don. I don't feel like "Don" the murderer actually called in that confession...it seems very unlike a murderer to do in this case (since nothing has been said since), let alone use his own name...knowing he was a security guard at the strip mall and his name was Don.
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I almost feel that, potentially the roommate of Don, was told the story of what happened by "Don" (the said murderer) and, like Dynoguy said, was afraid to go to the police or turn him in himself, but I feel like he called into the confession hotline with the story he was told and claimed to be Don, hoping that would draw suspicion to Don. I don't feel like "Don" the murderer actually called in that confession...it seems very unlike a murderer to do in this case (since nothing has been said since), let alone use his own name...knowing he was a security guard at the strip mall and his name was Don.
That's a good theory, it actually seems quite plausible.
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I almost feel that, potentially the roommate of Don, was told the story of what happened by "Don" (the said murderer) and, like Dynoguy said, was afraid to go to the police or turn him in himself, but I feel like he called into the confession hotline with the story he was told and claimed to be Don, hoping that would draw suspicion to Don. I don't feel like "Don" the murderer actually called in that confession...it seems very unlike a murderer to do in this case (since nothing has been said since), let alone use his own name...knowing he was a security guard at the strip mall and his name was Don.
That would tie all the loose ends together, provided Sean was a fake name, or maybe a nickname. But when the daughter finally saw the UM broadcast, she said it was her father's voice. So take from that what you will. If the scenario you presented is correct, then it was actually the daughter who got the voices mistaken and NOT Martha Woodworth. But regardless of who is correct, that doesn't change who the main suspect is.

Another line from the confession tape that is notable is when he says, "I often came by and talked with her when she was working alone." The security guard would always be the first one to know when she was working alone, since it's his job to constantly keep an eye on the store as well as the others in that strip mall.

On the 20 year anniversary of Tracey's murder, there was an article written about the case that included a quote from a retired Frederick Police Officer. It said...

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Retired Frederick Police Department Cpl. Bob Servacek is convinced he knows who killed Tracey Kirkpatrick.

"The case was solved in 1994," Servacek said. "As far as I was concerned."

Based on circumstantial evidence, he believes more than enough evidence exists for an arrest and a conviction. He believes a friend of the 17-year-old Brunswick High student killed her.

"What derailed the process was politics and personal agendas," Servacek said. "Certain individuals did not do their jobs and derailed the case."

He did not wish to elaborate.
When he mentions politics and personal agendas, that would certainly include covering for the son of the sheriff, if that is indeed what he was talking about. And Don could have been someone Tracey considered a work friend, if she saw him every evening at the clothing store and Tracey gave him one of her senior pictures.
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Well, I guess in one way the confession could have been legit and, the killer's way of saying to himself "hey, you confessed, that's all you can do, and you did it...now I don't feel as much guilt since I have confessed." Not so much "repenting" by serving prison time, but by clearing his own conscience.
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Maybe someone can help clear up some of the confusion:

From my understanding, Don IS the prime suspect in the case. Sean was Don's roommate. Don was the son of the local Sheriff. Sean knew (or suspected) that Don was involved in Tracy's murder, so he called the hotline pretending to be Don. Police consider both men suspects for a period of time. The UM update says "Don/Sean is no longer considered a suspect". I take that to mean that the roommate Sean. Don is still the prime suspect. Is that correct?
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Maybe someone can help clear up some of the confusion:

From my understanding, Don IS the prime suspect in the case. Sean was Don's roommate. Don was the son of the local Sheriff. Sean knew (or suspected) that Don was involved in Tracy's murder, so he called the hotline pretending to be Don. Police consider both men suspects for a period of time. The UM update says "Don/Sean is no longer considered a suspect". I take that to mean that the roommate Sean. Don is still the prime suspect. Is that correct?
Don the caller is the main suspect.

The police have never mentioned if Don the security guard, son of the sheriff (and man who discovered Tracey's body) is the same suspect.

The man who was investigated and cleared was not named Don or Sean.

Everything else has been speculation and us trying to connect the dots from the info provided by UM and daughter.
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Don the caller is the main suspect.

The police have never mentioned if Don the security guard, son of the sheriff (and man who discovered Tracey's body) is the same suspect.

The man who was investigated and cleared was not named Don or Sean.

Everything else has been speculation and us trying to connect the dots from the info provided by UM and daughter.
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But that makes it more confusing. Was the man who was cleared the same man who kept contacting the psychic?
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But that makes it more confusing. Was the man who was cleared the same man who kept contacting the psychic?
I know. It's very confusing.

The psychic was sure the man who contacted her (calling himself Sean) was actually Don when she heard the confession tape. Whether she was correct, we'll probably never know.

The return address on Sean's envelope was to a man who was NOT named Sean or Don. On the one year anniversary of Tracey's murder, a radio station played Don's confession tape to the citizens of Frederick and several people called in thinking they knew the voice and it was the same man on Sean's return address. When police searched his house, they found a ton of newspaper articles about Tracey's murder but found no evidence he knew her personally. Eventually, THIS man was cleared as a suspect, as pointed out on the Amazon Prime update. But again, he is not named Don or Sean.

Now once you've put that all aside, we have this: According to the daughter, her father (Don) had a roommate named Sean at the time of the murder. Don moved out shortly after the murder but continued paying rent to Sean for a couple months.

Sooooooo...if you can connect those dots, more power to you.
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Wasn't there a discussion about a UM fan convention on this board? Maybe if we do that, we can have a whiteboard session to discuss all the particulars in this case...maybe we can even solve it
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