Sitcoms Online - Main Page / Message Boards - Main Page / News Blog / Photo Galleries / DVD Reviews / Buy TV Shows on DVD and Blu-ray

View Today's Active Threads (No Chit Chat/Chit Chat Only) / View New Posts (No Chit Chat/Chit Chat Only) / Mark All Boards Read / Chit Chat Board


Unsolved Mysteries Online Main Page / Message Board / Show History / Episode Guide (1987-2002) / Expanded Episode Guide #2 / Expanded Episode Guide #3 / Case Updates / Wiki / Official Site / Related Links / True Crime Shows Message Board / All Other Cases Message Board / Buy The Best of Unsolved Mysteries DVD / Buy Unsolved Mysteries - The Ultimate Collection DVD

Unsolved Mysteries: Original Robert Stack Episodes - The Complete First Season

Watch or Buy Unsolved Mysteries: Original Robert Stack Episodes - The Complete First Season on Amazon Instant Video
/
Season 2
/ Season 3 / Season 4 /
Season 5
/ Season 6 / Season 7 /
Season 8
/ Season 9 / Season 10 /
Season 11
/ Season 12 / Watch on YouTube

Unsolved Mysteries with Dennis Farina Episodes

Watch or Buy Unsolved Mysteries with Dennis Farina - The Complete First Season Episodes on Amazon Instant Video
/ Season 2 / Season 3 / Season 4 / Season 5 / Season 6 / Season 7 / Season 8 / Watch on YouTube


Unsolved Mysteries: UFOs

Buy Unsolved Mysteries: UFOs DVD Set
Unsolved Mysteries: Ghosts

Buy Unsolved Mysteries: Ghosts DVD Set
Unsolved Mysteries: Miracles

Buy Unsolved Mysteries: Miracles DVD Set
Unsolved Mysteries: Bizarre Murders

Buy Unsolved Mysteries: Bizarre Murders DVD Set
Unsolved Mysteries: Psychics

Buy Unsolved Mysteries: Psychics DVD Set
Unsolved Mysteries: Strange Legends

Buy Unsolved Mysteries: Strange Legends DVD Set

Sitcoms Online Message Boards - Forums  

Go Back   Sitcoms Online Message Boards - Forums > Unsolved Mysteries

Notices

SitcomsOnline.com News Blog Headlines Twitter Facebook Instagram RSS

Fri-Yay: Master of None Pivots Genres in Season 3; Highway to Heaven Event Movies Coming to Lifetime; Remembering Frank Bonner of WKRP in Cincinnati
Antenna TV Summer 2021 Schedule; The CW Fall 2021 Premiere Dates
All-Star Cast Set for Paramount+ Animated Comedy Series; Home Makeovers with Marsai Martin
Netflix's Popular Never Have I Ever Returns July 15; Peacock's Girls5eva Renewed for Season 2
Chicago Fire Finally Heads to Syndication; Peacock Picks Up New Comedy Which Takes Place at a Singing Competition
Sitcom Stars on Talk Shows; This Week in Sitcoms (Week of June 14, 2021)
SitcomsOnline Digest: Valerie Bertinelli Cast in Comedy Pilot with Demi Lovato; Broadway Version of The Nanny in the Works


New on DVD/Blu-ray (February-June)

Betty White's Pet Set - The Complete Series Happy Together - The Complete Series 'Til Death - The Complete Series Fuller House - The Complete Series Parks and Recreation - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)

02/02 - Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In - The Complete Series (2021 Retail Release)
02/16 - Fam - The Complete Series
02/23 - Betty White's Pet Set - The Complete Series
03/02 - Blue Mountain State - The Complete Series
03/02 - Happy Together - The Complete Series
03/02 - Rick and Morty - The Complete Seasons 1-4 (DVD) (Blu-ray)
04/20 - 'Til Death - The Complete Series
05/11 - Dead to Me - Season Two
06/08 - The Critic - The Complete Series
06/08 - Fuller House - The Fifth and Final Season
06/08 - Fuller House - The Complete Series
06/08 - Our Cartoon President - Season 3
06/15 - The Office - Season 1 (Blu-ray) / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 / 9
06/15 - Parks and Recreation - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)
More TV DVD Releases / DVD Reviews Archive / SitcomsOnline Digest


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-23-2015, 01:43 PM   #406
LooksLikeCRicci
Likes to live in a clean house
Moderator
Forum 3K Club Member
 
LooksLikeCRicci's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 27, 2005
Posts: 3,893
Send a message via AIM to LooksLikeCRicci Send a message via Yahoo to LooksLikeCRicci
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hambone2421
One other thing about this case that baffles me is that the little girl was taken from the woods, all the way back into town and left there. That is so uncharacteristic of a serial killer.
Well, either the potential serial killer broke from tradition... or the daughter is the killer.

(I'm obviously kidding here.)
LooksLikeCRicci is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2015, 07:08 AM   #407
RobinW
Member
Senior Member
 
RobinW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 14, 2010
Posts: 1,867
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hambone2421
One other thing about this case that baffles me is that the little girl was taken from the woods, all the way back into town and left there. That is so uncharacteristic of a serial killer.
Well, even the most cold-blooded serial killers sometimes draw the line at murdering children. I think back to the UM case about the two teens from Texas who went on the tri-state killing spree. This was about as brutal and senseless a crime as ever profiled on UM, yet these two psychos still left the infant child of their first victim alive.

In this case, not only was the killer unwilling to hurt Crystal, but they actively cared about ensuring she was lived since there's no way she would have survived if she was left behind in those remote woods alone.
RobinW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2015, 07:27 AM   #408
TheCars1986
Proud Daddy
Forum Veteran
 
TheCars1986's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 22, 2008
Location: Maryland
Posts: 7,274
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RobinW
Well, even the most cold-blooded serial killers sometimes draw the line at murdering children. I think back to the UM case about the two teens from Texas who went on the tri-state killing spree. This was about as brutal and senseless a crime as ever profiled on UM, yet these two psychos still left the infant child of their first victim alive.

In this case, not only was the killer unwilling to hurt Crystal, but they actively cared about ensuring she was lived since there's no way she would have survived if she was left behind in those remote woods alone.
I agree.

I tend to think that initially since Riemer's remains weren't found, the police thought he was the likely suspect due to Crystal being dropped off and unharmed. I think the killer killed Riemer and Diana and they weren't even aware of Crystal's presence until after the murders.
TheCars1986 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2015, 08:08 AM   #409
Hambone2421
Member
Senior Member
 
Hambone2421's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 08, 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,830
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RobinW
Well, even the most cold-blooded serial killers sometimes draw the line at murdering children. I think back to the UM case about the two teens from Texas who went on the tri-state killing spree. This was about as brutal and senseless a crime as ever profiled on UM, yet these two psychos still left the infant child of their first victim alive.

In this case, not only was the killer unwilling to hurt Crystal, but they actively cared about ensuring she was lived since there's no way she would have survived if she was left behind in those remote woods alone.
I just think its odd that a killer risks being seen dropping the child off at a crowded shopping area.
Hambone2421 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2015, 01:59 PM   #410
kane7474
Member
Forum Regular
 
kane7474's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 10, 2006
Posts: 758
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hambone2421
I just think its odd that a killer risks being seen dropping the child off at a crowded shopping area.
It is odd unless you consider the killer was Joseph henry burgess who was know to kill un married couples in that general area . He thought he was doing gods work so obviously isn't going to kill the child. He killed the other couple and used the tube sock as a calling card . Same with Diana and mike
kane7474 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2015, 12:35 PM   #411
LilMissKryssy
" & every sinner has a future"
Frequent Poster
 
LilMissKryssy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 09, 2013
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 465
Default

I don't think it was mike at all. If he planned on killing Diana but didn't want to kill his daughter, why do it when he's with his daughter then? It makes no sense to me. Plus, he walks off deep into the woods just to kill himself? Its very rare for serial murderers that prey on strangers to kill their own spouse/significant other/family member. The green river killer and BTK are prime examples. They don't murder their own family members. The first murder victims were found right next to each other so I definitely believe a third party killed both couples and Mikes body just wasn't found for 20 years.
__________________
Little Miss Kryssy K
LilMissKryssy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2016, 09:36 PM   #412
TheCars1986
Proud Daddy
Forum Veteran
 
TheCars1986's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 22, 2008
Location: Maryland
Posts: 7,274
Default

This case now has a Wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minera...ington_murders

No real new developments, but there is a picture showing the vicinity of the murders, and how remote it is.
TheCars1986 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2016, 10:51 PM   #413
TheCars1986
Proud Daddy
Forum Veteran
 
TheCars1986's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 22, 2008
Location: Maryland
Posts: 7,274
Default

http://thinkingsidewayspodcast.com/t...e-sock-killer/

Podcast discussing the case. Very interesting. Only halfway in, but the hosts say that they talked to "sources" regarding the Cooper/Harkins murders, and that the man who was seen looking for Harkins shortly before his murder (about damage to Harkins motorcycle) was questioned, and the cops could not find any evidence to tie him to the murders. They did not rule him out per se, but they at the very least know the identity of this man.
TheCars1986 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2016, 06:11 PM   #414
TheCars1986
Proud Daddy
Forum Veteran
 
TheCars1986's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 22, 2008
Location: Maryland
Posts: 7,274
Default

Saw a rerun on the Farina hosted episodes today. What was interesting was they had an update, and it had to be after Farina passed away, because he said "let's go to one of our team members with the details" and a random guy came on in a voice over and described how Riemer's skull was found, and that the cause of death could not be determined.
TheCars1986 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2016, 10:36 PM   #415
VethixoDisco
Banned
Banned!!
Occasional Poster
 
Join Date: Apr 12, 2016
Posts: 70
Default

I saw this one today, and I honestly don't know what to think. I know Mike's skull was found, but it could've been suicide.

I think it's likely that a 3rd party was involved though. It was possible for Mike to have dropped Crystal at K-mart, but that seems out of the way, unless Diana was killed elsewhere and was hidden in the car when Crystal was dropped off, but there was blood in the passenger seat so I doubt that theory.

I'm assuming it was a 3rd party, possibly a love interest. Diana's murder was no doubt a crime of passion, so I wonder if there was another man in her life? It's possible she was having an affair, but she wouldn't leave Mike for the other guy, and he killed them both in a jealous rage. Ties in with that card that was left.

Then you have the tube sock, so it's hard to say if the killer was the same one who killed the other couple, or just another murderer who used the tube sock as a red herring. The love triangle possibility is interesting. Maybe it was someone they both knew, hence the dropping off of Crystal.
VethixoDisco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2017, 03:34 PM   #416
TheCars1986
Proud Daddy
Forum Veteran
 
TheCars1986's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 22, 2008
Location: Maryland
Posts: 7,274
Default

Found this article from 1985, which predates the Riemer/Robertson murders. It mentions another couple who was murdered prior to Ruth Cooper and Stephen Harkins, and how the cases might be connected. It makes no mention of a tube sock, however. And Cooper and Harkins were murdered with a gun, while La Vine and Smith were murdered with a knife. I only bring this up because there was a man who's fingerprint was found on La Vine and Smith's car, Billy Ray Ballard Jr., and he plead guilty to their murders 4 years later. He was a trucker and was arrested and was serving time in Wyoming for abducting, raping, and torturing, and murdering 2 women at the time that the fingerprint match was found. Ballard was from Montana, and would make frequent trips to Wyoming and Washington. I'm not sure as to his whereabouts at the time of Harkins/Cooper and Riemer/Robertson's murders, but I thought that he could be a possible suspect in the case.

More info about Kimberly La Vine

More info about Ed Smith

ETA: I was typing this as I was listening to RobinW's podcast about this case. I should've finished it before I posted it.
TheCars1986 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2017, 06:47 PM   #417
RobinW
Member
Senior Member
 
RobinW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 14, 2010
Posts: 1,867
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheCars1986
Found this article from 1985, which predates the Riemer/Robertson murders. It mentions another couple who was murdered prior to Ruth Cooper and Stephen Harkins, and how the cases might be connected. It makes no mention of a tube sock, however. And Cooper and Harkins were murdered with a gun, while La Vine and Smith were murdered with a knife. I only bring this up because there was a man who's fingerprint was found on La Vine and Smith's car, Billy Ray Ballard Jr., and he plead guilty to their murders 4 years later. He was a trucker and was arrested and was serving time in Wyoming for abducting, raping, and torturing, and murdering 2 women at the time that the fingerprint match was found. Ballard was from Montana, and would make frequent trips to Wyoming and Washington. I'm not sure as to his whereabouts at the time of Harkins/Cooper and Riemer/Robertson's murders, but I thought that he could be a possible suspect in the case.

More info about Kimberly La Vine

More info about Ed Smith

ETA: I was typing this as I was listening to RobinW's podcast about this case. I should've finished it before I posted it.
Yes, I also became pretty intrigued by Billy Ray Ballard when I read that. The frustrating thing is that I've never been able to find out the exact time he was arrested for the murders of the women in Wyoming. Obviously, if it happened before August 1985, then that would rule him out a suspect here.
RobinW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2021, 12:37 PM   #418
TheCars1986
Proud Daddy
Forum Veteran
 
TheCars1986's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 22, 2008
Location: Maryland
Posts: 7,274
Default

There has been nothing about this case in the last 10 years since Riemer's remains were found. Which is odd.
TheCars1986 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2021, 12:52 PM   #419
freakbook
Member
Senior Member
 
freakbook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 10, 2017
Posts: 1,870
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheCars1986 View Post
There has been nothing about this case in the last 10 years since Riemer's remains were found. Which is odd.
Agreed. I've been waiting to hear an update since the announcement but nothing ever came.

I wonder if they just considered it a murder/suicide and closed the book?
freakbook is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:35 PM.


Frequently Asked Questions

1) How do I contact Unsolved Mysteries with information on segments?

If you any information on cases, you can contact them via:

Website: www.unsolved.com

Contact form on official Unsolved Mysteries site

Please note that their old mailing address and 1-800 phone number no longer work.


2) Where can I watch Unsolved Mysteries?

Unsolved Mysteries is available for streaming on Amazon Instant Video, YouTube and Hulu.


Although the administrators and moderators of the Sitcoms Online Message Boards will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of the Sitcoms Online Message Boards, nor vBulletin Solutions Inc. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message. The owners of the Sitcoms Online Message Boards reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.