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Old 06-08-2017, 06:44 PM   #106
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apparently they let him go to "get his affairs in order" and it was controversial at the time...saw an article that said the bridge was fairly busy and nobody saw a "couple on the bridge about to jump or anything....

it would take time to get the weights out ,tie them to yourselves, and climbing to get to where you jump off, but if they had a friend and they hopped into their car and drove off,,,that just takes seconds
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apparently they let him go to "get his affairs in order" and it was controversial at the time...saw an article that said the bridge was fairly busy and nobody saw a "couple on the bridge about to jump or anything....

it would take time to get the weights out ,tie them to yourselves, and climbing to get to where you jump off, but if they had a friend and they hopped into their car and drove off,,,that just takes seconds
The car was found on the bridge.

Can you imagine the conversation though if they had had a friend drop them off?

-Hey Bob, can you do me a favor?
-Sure, Adam, whatever you need. Sorry about that whole murder conviction thing, that has to suck.
-Well, Elena and I are gonna jump off the Newport Bridge and we need your help.
-I've got to get my dog groomed at noon, but after that, I'm all yours.
-Fabulous. Can you drive us to our doom?
-Sure. Adam, I have to ask you an important question though.
-Alright, Bob, what is it?
-Can you kick in for gas money?
-Of course, Bob, you can't take it with you, after all!
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Old 10-08-2017, 02:00 PM   #108
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Did law enforcement ever identify the couple with Elena and Adam?
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I watched this case the other day, and before even thinking about Adam jumping or not jumping off that bridge, I am just struck at his complete lack of remorse...not just for killing a person, but for killing the wrong person.

Even during his trial when he was explaining his actions, there was no remorse, no shame, no emotion. It looked as if he was saying, "Someone sideswiped me so I had to kill someone, so I did." And that now infamous post-trial courtroom footage where he's whispering with Elena, he still looks like a robot, completely devoid of any emotion or recognition of what he did.

If ever there was a killer from UM who I would wish to see in handcuffs and a orange suit, he would be in the top 5. The man is scum. And yes, I believe he did not jump. Since he lacks any sort of compassion or remorse, I could see him pushing Elena off the bridge (not that I feel sorry for her) and taking off. I'm glad the FBI is still looking for him.
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His wikipedia page says the authorities have no evidence that he jumped. Wouldn't Elena's skull be evidence? Not direct evidence, but it suggests that there was some sort of suicide pact between them. I still believe he is dead.
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Even during his trial when he was explaining his actions, there was no remorse, no shame, no emotion. It looked as if he was saying, "Someone sideswiped me so I had to kill someone, so I did."
I agree. I could almost understand the stabbing. It was the heat of the moment, he was pissed off, he had been drinking, and was likely running pretty high on adrenaline, and if that wasnít enough, his wife pretty much egged him on.

But the fact that even after being taken into custody, after having plenty of time to calm down and sober up, he still didnít express any remorse regarding his actions, what little sympathy I may have had, ends.

Though I still think we canít rule out suicide. No one has seen or heard from him in the decades that followed. I donít know if Adam was the type of guy who would be able to last long as a fugitive.
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It was mentioned on the segment that a piece of a lower leg bone belonging to a male was found in the bay. There was some material attached to the bone that resembled the running socks they purchased that night. An expert testified that the bone could not have been Adamís as the height would have been incorrect.

Iíve always wondered if the expert was wrong and the bone was Adamís. If itís still around, perhaps some dna testing could be done.
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It was mentioned on the segment that a piece of a lower leg bone belonging to a male was found in the bay. There was some material attached to the bone that resembled the running socks they purchased that night. An expert testified that the bone could not have been Adamís as the height would have been incorrect.

Iíve always wondered if the expert was wrong and the bone was Adamís. If itís still around, perhaps some dna testing could be done.
They also said that there weren't any organisms growing on the sock, meaning that it wasn't under water for as long as Adam was alleged to have jumped. The anthropologist said he was 85% certain that the bones were from a male no taller than 5'7". I think they are wrong. What are the odds that someone finds someone else's leg bones with the same identical socks that they purchased before jumping?
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Even during his trial when he was explaining his actions, there was no remorse, no shame, no emotion. It looked as if he was saying, "Someone sideswiped me so I had to kill someone, so I did." And that now infamous post-trial courtroom footage where he's whispering with Elena, he still looks like a robot, completely devoid of any emotion or recognition of what he did.
What about the idea that he was mentally "dead" at that point? Honestly this isn't going to be a popular opinion but I would say a good chunk of the population is capable of doing the exact same thing as he did and I have seen plenty of people do similar things to me over the years (obviously never killed me but could easily have over very minor things). Maybe he was already planning on committing suicide if he was convicted and caught a "lucky break" being released?
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They really should do DNA testing on the leg bone, if possible. If it doesn't belong to Emery, then that's fine, but at least there's potential for ruling it out and finding out who it belongs to.
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I've read through some news articles and the only leg bone mentioned was Elena's. I can't find any source outside of UM about the leg bone of the 5'7" male - does anyone have a link they could share?
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Who sideswiped Adam's car?
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Who sideswiped Adam's car?
I'm afraid I don't understand your question. It's always been my understanding that Adam went after and ultimately killed the wrong person for this offense. I don't think they ever found the person who was driving the vehicle that actualy sideswiped Adam.
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Occam's Razor would have Adam jumping from the cliffs with Elena (and having his remains swept away, hers later being recovered per the segment). Given the randomness of the crime, this fits.

Alternately, he could've chickened out at the last minute (after killing Elena) and decided to skip the country, but in that event, he would've needed help from somewhere/someone and that's something I would think the FBI would've picked up on by now.

Either way, I highly doubt that Adam would do something so stupid & impulsive and then suddenly become all mercurial (kill his wife, make it look like they had both committed suicide, then run)
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Occam's Razor would have Adam jumping from the cliffs with Elena (and having his remains swept away, hers later being recovered per the segment). Given the randomness of the crime, this fits.

Alternately, he could've chickened out at the last minute (after killing Elena) and decided to skip the country, but in that event, he would've needed help from somewhere/someone and that's something I would think the FBI would've picked up on by now.

Either way, I highly doubt that Adam would do something so stupid & impulsive and then suddenly become all mercurial (kill his wife, make it look like they had both committed suicide, then run)
You doubt he would be stupid and impulsive? What's more stupid and impulsive than what he did to Jason Bass?

The FBI is actively looking for him. He's on the FBI's most wanted violent criminals list.

You would think he would have been found by now if he's alive, but I would think Gloria Schulze, Richard Bocklage, and Randall Utterback would have been found. And there's nothing particularly remarkable about any of those people at all.
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