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Old 09-09-2019, 10:08 AM   #121
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This may be a stretch, but I thought is was shady how the Sherwood family (and UM) completely glossed over the second missing boy.

They were stretching to fit a narrative. As I recall, there was also a friend or acquaintance who found something damning in a government database, and then it disappeared.
The Clifford Sherwood disappearance is definitely one where I switched my opinion after reading crystaldawn's blog and listening to RobinW's podcast. I'm not sure if the blame lies with UM, Clifford's mother, or a combo, but we definitely did not get the whole story on that case.

I still feel horrible for his mom because she had to go so long without her little boy and without knowing. It also sounds like Clifford's dad was a piece of trash for starting and abandoning families the way he did. But it still doesn't mean the UM presentation should have been so distorted and to all but ignore George Grumbly.
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I agree, it is a very sad case of mental illness. I feel for Cindy and it is a shame she wasn't supported in that sense.
I feel for Cindy. But I have zero sympathy for the Vancouver Police. They stopped believing she was being terrorized roughly a year and half in. That means for the next 4-5 years, they continued giving her security basically with an eye roll. Yet they never saw a thing.

They would always inform her when security was being taken off and that's when another incident would happen. All they had to do was tell her security was done for the day but secretly continue to observe her to hopefully catch her in the act. If they catch just one instance (dead cats thrown in the front yard, garden destroyed, porch lights smashed, phone lines cut, etc.) then it's reported to police, family and her psychotherapist and she's given the help she needs. No more trauma, no more pain, no more investigation and everyone gets to go back to their normal lives.

But that didn't happen. Instead, they let this go on year after year after year. The time, money and resources that were wasted was because of the Vancouver Police's incompetence.
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I feel for Cindy. But I have zero sympathy for the Vancouver Police. They stopped believing she was being terrorized roughly a year and half in. That means for the next 4-5 years, they continued giving her security basically with an eye roll. Yet they never saw a thing.
I agree... I also think had this happened today, Cindy would have (hopefully?) received the care she needed to get better and that she'd still be alive.

Whether or not this was real to begin with, we know it eventually drove her to make up some of the events. However, I'm sure that had as much to do with not being believed and/or treated as anything.

Back when this happened, LE had very little time or sympathy for mental health issues. People were just "nuts" and they were often ignored or mistreated. Cindy was obviously suffering even before these attacks happened. She had some serious mental trauma in her life and things just kept getting worse. I have to believe many people in the Vancouver PD today aren't proud of how her case was handled back then. Because they definitely did her no favors when she was alive.
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I feel for Cindy. But I have zero sympathy for the Vancouver Police. They stopped believing she was being terrorized roughly a year and half in. That means for the next 4-5 years, they continued giving her security basically with an eye roll. Yet they never saw a thing.

They would always inform her when security was being taken off and that's when another incident would happen. All they had to do was tell her security was done for the day but secretly continue to observe her to hopefully catch her in the act. If they catch just one instance (dead cats thrown in the front yard, garden destroyed, porch lights smashed, phone lines cut, etc.) then it's reported to police, family and her psychotherapist and she's given the help she needs. No more trauma, no more pain, no more investigation and everyone gets to go back to their normal lives.

But that didn't happen. Instead, they let this go on year after year after year. The time, money and resources that were wasted was because of the Vancouver Police's incompetence.
Very valid point, you would definitely think with how much was invested into the case and how many were involved, somebody would have thought to do this
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I don't know about that. Are there any time and resource-wasting attention-seeking hoaxsters on Sitcoms Online?
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Very valid point, you would definitely think with how much was invested into the case and how many were involved, somebody would have thought to do this
One of the police officers mentioned this during Cindy's inquest, about wishing to catch her in the act. Yeah. File this under things that would have been more useful five years ago.
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