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Old 07-25-2019, 12:28 PM   #16
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Who put the poison in Patsy Wright's NyQuil bottle?
I've said this before.. I wonder if she did it.

What sits wrong with me about this case, and I fully admit that there's a strong chance that details which would disprove my idea might just not be in the stories that i'm reading or may not have been released to the public.

But.. What catches my eye is the fact that she called her sister and mentions that she had taken cold medicine and was having a reaction to it. She apparently frequently took Nyquil to help her sleep and never had any kind of reaction to it previously, so why would she believe that it was the cause of her illness?

Horrible way to off yourself.

The other idea is that one of the people close to her paid someone else to kill her.
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Who put the poison in Patsy Wright's NyQuil bottle?
This (who had access to strychnine & where did they get it?)

Also - Christopher Chichester........if he killed John Sohus, what happened with/to Linda??
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This (who had access to strychnine & where did they get it?)
So many questions. Why were there two dinner plates in her room, as though she was with a lover...but then she takes medicine to help her sleep? (Would you take medicine to help you sleep if you're having an intimate dinner in your bedroom with someone?) So does that mean the dinner plates were put there to make it appear as though a boyfriend was there? But if that's true, when could the plates have been planted there - considering she took the medicine and immediately called her sister...?

Maybe if the sister and brother-in-law put the poison in the bottle and staged everything else, including the mouth-to-mouth resuscitation...but I don't know. They were so sure the brother-in-law wasn't involved because he wouldn't inject poison into his own mouth. But could he have lied about that?
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The David Hurley case still deeply disturbs me.
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The Tara Calico missing girl case still disturbs me a lot.

I was around her age back when she disappeared/or was abducted.
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So many questions. Why were there two dinner plates in her room, as though she was with a lover...but then she takes medicine to help her sleep? (Would you take medicine to help you sleep if you're having an intimate dinner in your bedroom with someone?) So does that mean the dinner plates were put there to make it appear as though a boyfriend was there? But if that's true, when could the plates have been planted there - considering she took the medicine and immediately called her sister...?

Maybe if the sister and brother-in-law put the poison in the bottle and staged everything else, including the mouth-to-mouth resuscitation...but I don't know. They were so sure the brother-in-law wasn't involved because he wouldn't inject poison into his own mouth. But could he have lied about that?
she was known to those close to her for taking Nyquil to help her sleep. I don't find that odd. she was due to testify in court against her Ex about an arson case if I recall and he was pressuring her to lie on his behalf. she was horse cutting with some people from out of town. she was socially active at the time of her death and making plans for the future. which makes it very difficult to solve her case. you can go down a lot of rabbit holes.

Suicide is possible, but I've often been dismissive because of how uncommon strychnine poisoning is. I've heard that the content of the poison would have been difficult to get hold of which always leads me to believe that someone who worked in a rural area was involved or at least has some potential knowledge. and I feel it was a crime of passion. I also feel more than one person could have been involved. maybe the ex husband who was stalking her and or another that could have gotten the poison and reached the inside of her house without raising suspicions. One thing that is seldomly discussed is the phone call that her daughter received from a woman that made that strange comment about her. It makes me wonder if Patsy was having an affair with a married man.
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The Clifford Sherwood story. I really wonder if maybe he died in a freak accident & his dad didnít say anything
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Suicide is possible, but I've often been dismissive because of how uncommon strychnine poisoning is. I've heard that the content of the poison would have been difficult to get hold off.
I remain dismissive of the suicide theory and will continue to do so, until given a whole lot of solid proof otherwise. By all accounts, strychnine poisoning is one of the most horrible, excruciating ways to go, with the victim remaining awake and aware while all this happens. Even if Patsy wanted to die, there are thousands of easier, less painful methods she could have used. Maybe if she was grossly psychotic, I could possibly see her doing it, but even then itís a bit of a stretch.

Strychnine is an ingredient often found in rat poison, but rat poison usually contains a whole lot of other chemicals, not just strychnine. The high purity content of the strychnine used to kill Patsy, points towards it being the kind found only in a lab. Pretty much only labs are allowed to legally own this stuff. Unfortunately, there were universities in the area that used that chemical and apparently, they had disturbingly lax security.

Still, whoever did it, really had it out for her, wanted to make damn sure Patsy suffered. There were way easier means available, even if the perp wanted to make people think it was a tainted product problem.

Though Iím fairly certain the letter in the Judy Himes Case is accurate, I still remain morbidly fascinated with the anonymous phone calls that restarted the case. Who would make these calls? After all, weíre talking about a case that had long gone ice-cold and probably only a handful of people in the area even remembered the case. And this was before the Internet was ubiquitous, so itís not likely they could have stumbled onto while browsing the web and from there, decided to make a crank call. Anyone know if the authorities were able to prove where the calls were coming from?
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The blob case with the jelly what was that mysterious substance and why did so many people get violently sick
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In addition to some of the cases listed here, Audrey Moate and Thomas Hotard always stuck with me. It's one of the first cases I can vividly remember from the network run (I was 11 when I first saw it).
The fact that no trace of her ever was found was a big part of the intrigue, although I don't think she lived to old age either. A lot of places on land and in water down in nthat part of the country that someone can be dumped and never found.
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I remain dismissive of the suicide theory and will continue to do so, until given a whole lot of solid proof otherwise. By all accounts, strychnine poisoning is one of the most horrible, excruciating ways to go, with the victim remaining awake and aware while all this happens. Even if Patsy wanted to die, there are thousands of easier, less painful methods she could have used. Maybe if she was grossly psychotic, I could possibly see her doing it, but even then it’s a bit of a stretch.

Strychnine is an ingredient often found in rat poison, but rat poison usually contains a whole lot of other chemicals, not just strychnine. The high purity content of the strychnine used to kill Patsy, points towards it being the kind found only in a lab. Pretty much only labs are allowed to legally own this stuff. Unfortunately, there were universities in the area that used that chemical and apparently, they had disturbingly lax security.

Still, whoever did it, really had it out for her, wanted to make damn sure Patsy suffered. There were way easier means available, even if the perp wanted to make people think it was a tainted product problem.

Though I’m fairly certain the letter in the Judy Himes Case is accurate, I still remain morbidly fascinated with the anonymous phone calls that restarted the case. Who would make these calls? After all, we’re talking about a case that had long gone ice-cold and probably only a handful of people in the area even remembered the case. And this was before the Internet was ubiquitous, so it’s not likely they could have stumbled onto while browsing the web and from there, decided to make a crank call. Anyone know if the authorities were able to prove where the calls were coming from?

You'll be waiting a long time, because if they don't have any evidence now, it's unlikely there will ever be any.

But, to one of your points.. It's not impossible that she was thinking of cyanide instead of strychnine. Or was just unaware how bad the death would be.. Remember, no internet then.

My whole issue is that when she called, she mentioned the Nyquil unprompted. If you eat watermelon before you to go bed every night and then one day wake up and can't breathe.. If you call for an ambulance (I know she called family, which is odd, too.. Wouldn't you call 911?) would you say "I ate watermelon!" unprompted?

The only way that makes any sense is if you somehow think that there's a chance someone is going to kill you. Which doesn't necessarily seem like the case. Then you would have to think, and be right, that it was in the Nyquil.

Alternatively.. Another fair theory here is that the sister and brother-in-law did it.. He didn't really do CPR and they're lying about her mentioning the Nyquil in the phone call. however.. They seemed very honest, so.. Possible, but I tend to trust them. Not totally.. But enough.

I found somewhere that one of the people closely associated with this had access to strychnine.. I'll have to dig on that a bit to find that info again.
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Though Iím fairly certain the letter in the Judy Himes Case is accurate, I still remain morbidly fascinated with the anonymous phone calls that restarted the case. Who would make these calls? After all, weíre talking about a case that had long gone ice-cold and probably only a handful of people in the area even remembered the case. And this was before the Internet was ubiquitous, so itís not likely they could have stumbled onto while browsing the web and from there, decided to make a crank call. Anyone know if the authorities were able to prove where the calls were coming from?
I've often wondered about that myself. I guess it depended on how much press Judith's disappearance originally got in 1965, which had to have only been local. A Coral Gables resident in the 60's who would have personally remembered her going missing. But let's say for the sake of argument, that this former resident was 15 at the time. That would mean he/she would then decide to make crank calls about this case to the police at the age of 40. And that's kind of waaaay past the point of really getting enjoyment out of something like a crank phone call.

But then you have the, "she lives in Omaha," call not long after the chief of the Coral Gables police had given a lecture in Nebraska. Was that just a major coincidence that arose from a prank call? Was a former Coral Gables resident from 1965 sitting at that police lecture in Nebraska in 1989?

I agree, the calls and the reason behind them keep this story fascinating.
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Judy Smith's case is absolutely baffling to me. She went missing while visiting Philadelphia and her remains were later found in North Carolina. I can't think of any scenario that makes sense.
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Judy Smith's case is absolutely baffling to me. She went missing while visiting Philadelphia and her remains were later found in North Carolina. I can't think of any scenario that makes sense.
Oh yeah, that's a good one.

The theory is that she disappeared herself and then was murdered. But.. That still leaves PLENTY of good questions.

Several people in the Asheville area mentioned that she had told them she was visiting while her husband was at a conference.. So, it seems she certainly went there voluntarily. However.. How did she get there? If she rented a car, there'd be money missing from her account (She supposedly only had $200 on her).. If she took a bus.. That distance is more than a $30 ticket.

Did she meet someone in Philly who was driving there and said 'come along'? If so, it had to be someone she knew. She doesn't strike me as the type to hop in a car with a random stranger, either someone she met that was heading that way or via hitchiking. Plus.. She wasn't seen in Asheville with anyone else, so, that kinda strikes the idea of going there with someone, so far as going there 'together' at least.

Also.. How did she get clothes without money? This really does seem like a 'follow the money' thing.. She needed money to get to Asheville, she needed money while in Asheville.. Where did that money come from? She supposedly had about $200 on her in Philly, they found $167.. In 1997, $33 isn't getting you from Philly to Asheville, a set of hiking clothes and food.

The key is.. How did she get there? That, I believe, then leads to probable answers on both why she went and how she died.
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