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Old 05-05-2016, 12:48 PM   #46
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I wonder if the 21-year old had left the group either right before or shortly after getting to Laureen's apartment, and that's why there is no mention of him in any of the articles.
Yes, I wouldn't discount the possibility that the female friend never even told the police about the 21-year old at the time, and may have only shared this information with her daughter years later.

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The phone calls from California are the biggest question marks in the case. The only plausible way I could see them being unrelated is just a bizarre coincidental billing error. I tend to think the calls did not come from Laureen, because if she was in trouble, you would think she would have called any other number than a hotline for sexual assistance for teenagers.
That's true, but I also have no idea why a person who murdered Laureen would be calling a teen sexual assistance hotline in California either.

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I believe there was another reddit thread where someone said they searched and found a Denise Dunault in NH which was the same age as how old the missing Denise would be today. They posited that maybe Denise ran away on her own free will, and then years later was found to be ok, so that could be the reasoning behind a total lack of anything regarding her disappearance on the internet.
Ah, never thought about that. It certainly is possible. And I've personally never believed that Laureen's case and the disappearance of that other girl, Rachael Garden, were related at all since she was seen in the presence of three suspects who were likely responsible for her murder right before she went missing.
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This is very generous of you to provide these podcasts, Robin! Would you accept requests on missing persons cases, even if they were never featured on UM?
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This is very generous of you to provide these podcasts, Robin! Would you accept requests on missing persons cases, even if they were never featured on UM?
Absolutely! The Laureen Rahn episode I just did was actually requested by a poster here.

So feel free to make a request, but keep in mind that I've currently got quite a backlog of requests already.
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I see the missing persons case I was going to request was already requested in this thread: 12 year-old Jonelle Matthews (missing from Greeley, Colorado since December of 1984)

She came home from a Christmas choir thing while the rest of her family was at her sister's basketball game (her mom was out of town, apparently) and its stated that the garage door was inexplicably open when she was dropped off. Then it's been theorized that the perpetrator was hiding in the house waiting to attack her while she went down into her basement to watch TV. It was snowing and police found unknown footprints going from the garage to the backyard.
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i told you i listened to two of the podcasts but u never said anything? and i liked your facebook page
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i told you i listened to two of the podcasts but u never said anything? and i liked your facebook page
Ah sorry, I think I missed your post earlier in the thread. Thanks for listening and liking the page . I've got a new episode about a rather underrated UM case scheduled for next Wednesday.
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Ah sorry, I think I missed your post earlier in the thread. Thanks for listening and liking the page . I've got a new episode about a rather underrated UM case scheduled for next Wednesday.
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I see the missing persons case I was going to request was already requested in this thread: 12 year-old Jonelle Matthews (missing from Greeley, Colorado since December of 1984)

She came home from a Christmas choir thing while the rest of her family was at her sister's basketball game (her mom was out of town, apparently) and its stated that the garage door was inexplicably open when she was dropped off. Then it's been theorized that the perpetrator was hiding in the house waiting to attack her while she went down into her basement to watch TV. It was snowing and police found unknown footprints going from the garage to the backyard.
Ah yes, I hadn't heard of this case until it was requested earlier in this thread. It seems to be in demand, so I'll have to add it to my request list. Curiously, it looks like this case is also featured on the UM Wikia even though it was never on the show:
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I love listening to it and i love your Canadian accent lol.
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I just listened to the David Cox and Rhonda Hinson episodes. Both are such mysterious deaths.

Overall, I definitely agree with your theory about Rhonda. I think that she *may* have been fooling around with a married man, but I don't think that's what got her killed. I agree that she was killed by a random stranger and that person got off an accidental "one in a million" shot. The pure chance of someone actually AIMING for her and hitting her in the way they did are literally so close to zero I don't even think it's possible.

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Agreed. I see one of two scenarios:

1) Random stranger shoots at her from the overpass which is at an elevated angle behind her (Google maps gives a good overview of the area). As someone who has a lot of experience with rifle shooting, I do not think it would be hard to hit her car from that angle, but I do think hitting HER would be extremely lucky. The car that was seen in the area (parked under the overpass) was probably the car of the shooter(s) looking for a random victim.

I see it playing out like this: A couple of male teenagers were drinking and/or doing drugs. Billy tells Johnny, "Hey, I got my hunting rifle in the back seat, let's go scare some motorists." So Billy and Johnny, being from the area, know just the spot to take sniper shots at cars. The overpass they chose is the perfect place -- it's secluded, dark, and provides excellent view of cars traveling parallel to their line of sight. So Billy takes out his rifle and shoots at the first car they see. As Rhonda's car collides into a ditch, they both look at each other and say "Oh sh**t." I believe it was these young men (or maybe just one guy) that were spotted parked beside her trying to take a look in hopes they didn't kill her. After they noticed she was bleeding all over the place, they panicked and have kept their mouths shut since.

Such crimes are not unheard of and happen still today. Just recently there have been the Colorado highway shootings that have made national news. Therefore, we know such shootings into random cars does have precedence and antecedence.

2) The second scenario I see is someone else in the neighborhood (with no malicious intent) fired a rifle randomly and just happened to hit her. They discovered later they had accidentally killed someone and instead of coming forward, decided that no one would believe it was an accident. However, from my Google Maps viewing of the area, I don't see any houses with the correct line of sight for this shot to have hit her, but that doesn't mean someone wasn't in a wooded area several hundred yards behind her (perhaps spotlight hunting) and just accidentally hit her. Rifle bullets can travel a LONG ways.

Bottom line: I don't believe she was targeted by a married man or anyone she knew. I've read up on this case (beyond UM) and the police have exhausted the married man angle and have no evidence whatsoever that he existed. I also believe her boyfriend at the time has a rock solid alibi. The Police today (some of whom were barely born when this happened) believe it was a random shooting based on all the case files they have read and modern interviews they have conducted.
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I'm listening to the Laureen Rahn one now
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The overpass they chose is the perfect place -- it's secluded,
Unless a person lives in the area, it's impossible to say if it's secluded or not. I would imagine just about any overpass, entrance/exit ramp is going to have a decent amount of activity, even at night.


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So Billy takes out his rifle and shoots at the first car they see.
The problem with theory is that they didn't shoot at the first car they saw. A witness came forward and saw them beforehand. In an earlier post of mine, I state it was possible they were there for up to 45 minutes or so before firing at Rhonda.

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Such crimes are not unheard of and happen still today. Just recently there have been the Colorado highway shootings that have made national news. Therefore, we know such shootings into random cars does have precedence and antecedence.
There have been some in my area too. They're not entirely comparable though. I believe almost all of the sniper-type shootings that I'm aware of happened during the day, not the night. It's also a different time and a different place. I'm also of the belief that if this was some sniper or random psycho, they would have kept on doing it until they were caught. Like the Beltway sniper, the one in my area, the one in Arizona, etc.

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2) The second scenario I see is someone else in the neighborhood (with no malicious intent) fired a rifle randomly and just happened to hit her. They discovered later they had accidentally killed someone and instead of coming forward, decided that no one would believe it was an accident. However, from my Google Maps viewing of the area, I don't see any houses with the correct line of sight for this shot to have hit her, but that doesn't mean someone wasn't in a wooded area several hundred yards behind her (perhaps spotlight hunting) and just accidentally hit her. Rifle bullets can travel a LONG ways.
about a trillion to one shot.

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Bottom line: I don't believe she was targeted by a married man or anyone she knew. I've read up on this case (beyond UM) and the police have exhausted the married man angle and have no evidence whatsoever that he existed. I also believe her boyfriend at the time has a rock solid alibi. The Police today (some of whom were barely born when this happened) believe it was a random shooting based on all the case files they have read and modern interviews they have conducted.
Do you have any proof of this?
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Can you do one on Maura Murray?
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Can you do one on Maura Murray?

I think Don Henry and Kevin Ives deserves some light shed on them again. I would love to hear a podcast on them.
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