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Old 07-06-2014, 02:04 AM   #91
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If the "boys following and harrassing her" scenario is the right one, I definitely don't buy that it was an accident. For one thing, Tara was known to bike for long periods (well in excess of 30 miles per day), so I'm thinking her biking was pretty well known to the community. I think it's more likely someone staked her out, became familiar with her routine and waited until they knew she was in an area with nobody around and nabbed her.
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The missing bike is the biggest factor, IMO, that points to an accident. An abductor wouldn't care about lugging a bike as well as Tara, he would have just left it. Someone who hit Tara's bike with a car would have been worried that there was damage and/or paint transfer that could be traced back to the vehicle, so they would definitely want to dispose of the bike.
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I just rewatched the segment and noticed the bruising on the boy's neck.
Good God....

I decided to check out the DVD of the episode, which I haven't seen in a LONG time.

Maybe it's just my eyes, but the picture seems clearer on the DVD than it does in the various scans that have circulated online.

That being said, I agree with your assessment. It looks very much like bruising. Interestingly, it doesn't look very "uniform" either and almost has the appearance of fingermarks.

Regardless, it's sickening and I had the same feelings as I did they day I discovered the Nyleen Kay Marshall letter could be read if you do a freeze frame. Almost wish I hadn't.
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Yeah. I viewed it on my tv, so it was a larger version of the pic than you can see online. Do you think that makes abduction more likely, whoever these children are?

I have no idea why they aired the Nyleen letter. Someone must have been having a brain freeze.
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Yeah. I viewed it on my tv, so it was a larger version of the pic than you can see online. Do you think that makes abduction more likely, whoever these children are?
Truthfully, no, I don't. I still think the photo could be something a parent or guardian took of their own children for whatever purpose - sexual gratification, as some kind of sadistic, sexual power game, or even resale as child pornography. Not to be graphic, but the Noreen Gosch website has many examples of this type of pornography. Unfortunately, it would appear to be somewhat common.

Assuming this is a child abduction in progress, I keep struggling with the offender profile. I suppose it's not impossible that there could exist some criminal mastermind who steals children, regardless of sex and age, and poses them for taunting Polaroids. I don't know though, the whole thing just seems pretty unlikely to me.

Assuming this was an abduction - what do you think the purpose of taking the photo was? Was its being left behind in the parking lot even intentional? Not trying to be caustic, just genuinely curious how you perceive the angle here.

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I have no idea why they aired the Nyleen letter. Someone must have been having a brain freeze.
My feel on this is that it was a sign of the times (late 80s, early 90s). I just don't think they (the show's creators) anticipated people doing freeze frames and trying to read the letter. That being said, I don't think the inclusion of those graphic lines was intentional either.
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My take is that there's something sinister going on in the photo. I suppose there is a possibility that they are the real children of whoever took the photo. Perhaps they were "home-schooled" or had been pulled out of regular school years prior and that's why they are still unidentified.

I think profiling is helpful to an extent, but it's not 100% accurate. For example, tomorrow I am watching an episode of A Crime To Remember, that is profiling a Michigan serial killler from the late 60's. He was handsome, clean-cut, attended college and doesn't at all fit the typical mold of a serial killer.
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I think profiling is helpful to an extent, but it's not 100% accurate. For example, tomorrow I am watching an episode of A Crime To Remember, that is profiling a Michigan serial killler from the late 60's. He was handsome, clean-cut, attended college and doesn't at all fit the typical mold of a serial killer.
Would that be John Norman Collins? Because if so, I'd like to see it myself if it's on TV. That was before my time but my parents were in college when those killings were going on and they told me stories.
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My take is that there's something sinister going on in the photo. I suppose there is a possibility that they are the real children of whoever took the photo. Perhaps they were "home-schooled" or had been pulled out of regular school years prior and that's why they are still unidentified.
I think I've said on this thread before the fact that they have not been identified means very little because the photo could have been taken anywhere in the world. There is a good possibility that the kids aren't even American. Not to mention this case is 25 years old.

Also, if they are child abuse/pornography victims there is a good chance they are still alive to this day, and were never missing to begin with. The problem is that this photo is usually touted as being of Tara Calico and/or Michael Henley and/or "child abduction victims" or "missing children" when we really have no idea if any of those scenarios are correct.

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Yes, you're correct, profiling is not 100 percent.

However, deductive reasoning based on the known facts isn't a bad starting point in a case like this. As I said earlier, considering the abduction scenario, it's not impossible that this offender exists, it's just atypical and unusual behavior for an offender of this type.

Part of my assessment in trying to deduce the most likely scenario is to reject hypotheses that are unusual and/or atypical in order to more narrowly focus on what is more likely. The criminal mastermind stealing children, regardless of sex and age preferences, and keeping them alive, and posing them for Polaroid photos that will then be discarded as taunts doesn't pass the sniff test, for me anyway, because such behavior is rare and other, more plausible, explanations exist.
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The criminal mastermind stealing children, regardless of sex and age preferences, and keeping them alive, and posing them for Polaroid photos that will then be discarded as taunts doesn't pass the sniff test, for me anyway, because such behavior is rare and other, more plausible, explanations exist.
Not to mention the fact that this person abducted two unrelated children of different sexes, relatively around the same time. That's got to be almost impossible.
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The more I mull it over, the more I'm convinced the Polaroid was a remnant of some sicko's kiddie porn collection and not Calico/Henley or any other abducted child for that matter.

If a parent/guardian truly did take the picture, it's hard to imagine they would be so careless as to let it get out in such a public manner, especially if the kids could potentially be identified as their own.

That being said, I still think a parent/guardian could have taken the pictures, but sold them to a third party. If that was the case, this was likely a series of pictures. This particular shot was either accidentally dropped (unlikely) or intentionally dropped just to mess with people who might find the photo and would obviously find it disturbing.

Of course, this whole affair could be a hoax, but I think the bruising on the boy's neck shoots that down.
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I know there is a lot of debate as to what constitutes pornography. I generally understand it as material in which naked (or mostly naked) people engage in sexual activities. If that's the case, the infamous "Calico" picture doesn't qualify as pornography. It's been shown on UM and other programs, and I don't think they would put a porn pic up there. I'm thinking it would be classified under something else. In any event, I find the picture horrifying.
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I hope that it wasn't a parent or guardian that took the picture, but a 3rd sibling or young relative. The girl's face makes me think this is what happened. She looks bored and unamused, and was possibly goaded into doing it by whoever took the picture.
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I know there is a lot of debate as to what constitutes pornography. I generally understand it as material in which naked (or mostly naked) people engage in sexual activities. If that's the case, the infamous "Calico" picture doesn't qualify as pornography. It's been shown on UM and other programs, and I don't think they would put a porn pic up there. I'm thinking it would be classified under something else. In any event, I find the picture horrifying.
For the sake of furthering the discussion, I strongly encourage you to go to Noreen Gosch's website about the disappearance of her son Johnny. There are many shocking and horrific pictures of clothed children tied up and gagged that have been sent to her by pedophiles or downloaded from websites and forums intended for pedophiles.

As I mentioned earlier, last year I attended a presentation for law enforcement personnel about child pornography. Believe me when I say there are sickos out there who get turned on pictures of kids tied up. Whether such pictures constitute a definition of "pornography" is up for grabs, but pictures like this are taken and the rationale, audience, and end use of them is, unfortunately, obvious.
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I understand. I have been to the Noreen Gosch site in the past. An episode of "Maxium Drama" I recorded awhile back showed one of the pics. Police had stated that these pics were a hoax, that they came from Florida in the late 70's and they had idenitifed all the kids in the pictures, none of them had been kidnapped. Apparently, some sick person played a cruel joke on Noreen Gosch.
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What is with that horrendous age progression pic of Tara in the link above???
The age progression is totally uncalled for and even scarier than the Polaroid.

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