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Old 07-02-2012, 08:35 PM   #106
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if the allegations against denise are true, it says a lot about her morals and character....women cant have it both ways, there are consequences of sleeping around with many partners....it's like when a guy cheats, a woman does something for revenge and it's like he deserved it. We have heard this story countless times.....
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:31 PM   #107
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if the allegations against denise are true, it says a lot about her morals and character....women cant have it both ways, there are consequences of sleeping around with many partners....it's like when a guy cheats, a woman does something for revenge and it's like he deserved it. We have heard this story countless times.....
I seriously hope you don't mean that Randall's attack was warranted if the allegations are true. Promiscuity and cheating still don't make shooting, stalking, and kidnapping permissible. And it wouldn't be permissible if the male had been doing such things and the woman had gotten her "revenge" this way, either.
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Old 08-18-2012, 05:08 PM   #108
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Sisilyg5, I totally understand where you are coming from. My dad snapped and committed a crime and ended up in a fatal police shootout. A small town that knew my family. Most knew us enough, but for people who only got their information from the news and/or newspaper, the side was differed and some of those opinion hurt and still do.

That being said, you have to understand our point here. We do not know your brother. All we have is the UM segment and/or research some of our poster do from time to time. I'm sure Randall was a great brother and relative and I can tell you miss him. You're a good sister to defend him since he is not here to do it himself. However, he is not defending himself because he ran away from his actions and did not face them as an adult should. Also, when you come onto a site like this, yes there is going to be an opinion or two and that includes saying things that hurt. In this case, there is a criminal record to back up our opinion. Sorry.

Denise may be a complete sleaze and man eater off camera, but that doesn't matter. Your brother was abusive during their relationship. When Denise said it was over, THAT'S HER RIGHT. At that point, he needed to stop and change direction because as heartbroken as he was, that part of his life was over. Randall crossed a line not once or twice, but multiple times.

You're a good sister to stick up for your brother, but don't chastise us because we do not feel the same way. If it upsets you so much, maybe you shouldn't be reading these posts.
Thanks for commenting about this. I must admit yes some of the comments were and are hurtful and through all these years I have gone through roller coaster of emotions. Everyone has a right to their opinions and thank you for yours. Right or wrong, my brother needs to take responsibility for his actions and until he takes responsibility I can only hope he is still alive.
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Old 08-18-2012, 05:11 PM   #109
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Just rewatched this case.

I just have to say that even if these allegations against Denise are true, they do not excuse Mr. Utterback's actions. Period. I would also like to know what the statute of limitations is for these charges and if there's much else that's come to light recently.
From what I have been told, there is no statue of limitations because he was never convicted for the crime. In fact, I am sure he will get added charges when or if he is ever found. I have not heard of any updated information but if I do, I will definately post. thanks for your post. Randall's sister, Susan
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From what I have been told, there is no statue of limitations because he was never convicted for the crime. In fact, I am sure he will get added charges when or if he is ever found. I have not heard of any updated information but if I do, I will definately post. thanks for your post. Randall's sister, Susan
I can only imagine how much pain you've gone through having this hang over your head and of course concern for his welfare regardless of anything he did. That's a lot of stress to deal with and must be very upsetting. I hope that what I said did not cause you any offense or anything like that.
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I grew up around Randal. He looks rough in the mugshots but was always real into nice stuff. he always had the best stereo equipment and road racing bicycles. He usually had at least 2 crotch rocket motorcycles that were extremely souped up. He liked to go really fast. He was actually pretty flashy and had quite a bit of cash because he is the type of guy that would work three jobs. As far as the ex-girlfriend, she liked to start crap and get revenge on people. I have no doubt that he wanted her back but I don't think he went nuts on her. Knowing her and him I'm pretty sure she said that to get him in trouble with the police. As far as being in Missouri I would bet anything that he is not. He is known to be a pretty crafty and I would bet he is in another state working in a factory saving all of his cash for quick moves so that whenever they show him on T.V. he can jump up and move on a moments notice. As for England, I could see that. I'm telling you Randall could be anyone he wanted to be. He can dress the part and have the accent. He did pretty good interpretations.
no you are not randall LOL. you seem like maybe you are just his secretary.
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Wow, one of the best threads I've ever read on here. So here is my opinion. I understand randall's family and friends that love him. no he did not committ a terrible crime like some of the others we have seen on UM that make us lose sleep at night. So I'm not going to say he's a terrible person without knowing him personally.

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He still did something wrong or he wouldn't have been arrested multiple times and then run away from everything. By now he could have had this completely behind him and done something positive with his life. He did this to himself and hurt his family with his actions.

If the victim lied about him or if UM was overdramatic I really don't care. Afterall she was only 18 years old and he was treating her like she was his daughter? Most 18 year olds aren't ready for that and at some point want to be young and into other people their age as well. That's why you see so many people get married young only to get divorced after a few years of marriage. I'm sure randall wouldn't have wanted a 30 year old woman telling him what to do when he was an 18 year old kid. He probably would have tapped. This is all just speculation on my part.

Maybe it wasn't right at the end of the day what she did or how UM only showed one side, but he is the one that ran and we only have the UM segment to go by because he never stepped up to face the charges and give his side of the story. spells GUILTY in my book. At least this case didn't end like the jim burnside case.

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Old 08-23-2012, 04:29 PM   #113
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im sure that i probably know more about this case than most of you because im was friends with both randall and his accuser. anyone who knows the both of them knows the truth of who is the criminal in this case
Did you ever see that episode of COPS where the criminal was drunk and slamming his own head on the cop car and then turned to the cops and accused the police officer for police brutality? The officer told the guy you are on camera silly.

I'm just asking because I just wonder if you know who the real criminal was in that case too?
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Old 06-20-2013, 01:33 AM   #114
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hi there..i dont know if you still get on this page and check the comments anymore..but do you remember randalls girlfriend before denise williams? cathy ? im not obligated to say her lastname due to the fact i really dont know if i can..lol..but she is my mother..and randall is my biological father..if you really are his sister..then u can see a true definition in our different pictures
I have thought of you for so long and the few pictures I have seen of you I definitely can see the resemblance of you and Randall. I am his sister, and I feel so bad for what you and your mom has gone through. I do not have a clue where he is, and nor do I want to see him as long as he is a fugitive. I never knew about you until I was looking on case.net and seen where he was to pay child support. This was in 2005 so I was very shocked to know I had a blood nephew. I never got the chance to meet your mom and I feel really bad for anything he did to her. I wish things could be different and I could meet you but I truly understand the anger you have. Yes I do remember Denise Williams and I actually have videos of them at our house. Never in my wildest dream would I have ever thought I would be in this situation of not knowing where my brother is. But he made the choice to escape and that is something he will have to deal with for the rest of his life. One of my wishes in life is that I get to meet you and your mom and though the relationship between Randall and you is not good, I hope you will find it in your heart to want to meet me one day.
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I'm not sure about the legality of it all, but could he still be prosecuted for the crimes? What about the statue of limitations?
The escape would stay any SOL.

If he had not been charged, it would almost certainly be too late to bring charges, but he was charged, he just hasn't faced trial.

And that's the rub for some of his defenders claims. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Denise did bait him into certain actions or even that she made the whole thing up. That would certainly give him good reason, in my mind, to stay and make sure his side of the story is known. Yes, lawyers are expensive, but I can't think of a better reason to make sure you have one and when the cost is justified.
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Wow, quite the magnitude of victim-blaming and downplaying of stalking and attempted murder in here.

I can't believe this sick freakshow has never been found. It's not like this guy is some genius. I hope, at least, that he never sucked another woman into his creep vortex again.
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This thread was a great trip down memory lane...

To answer a legal question, egswango was correct. If Randall escaped while he was awaiting trial, the statute of limitations would be tolled because there is an active warrant for his arrest.

And even IF Denise is a big old whore, it in no way excuses Randall for his actions. Everyone makes mistakes. Just suck it up and take responsibility. Sheesh. It's not rocket science, people.
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Haha I love the title of this thread.
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Haha I love the title of this thread.
I was seriously just about to post the EXACT same thing.
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I was seriously just about to post the EXACT same thing.
I love it whenever this thread is bumped for that very reason.
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