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Old 09-09-2017, 05:06 PM   #31
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That Jeffrey Digmin, Tony Lombardi, Norman Ladner, etc. committed suicide.

Or that defendants like Thomas Drake, Larry Race, John Branion, Stuart Heaton, etc. could actually be guilty.

It just seems that there is a tendency on here, for reasons I can only speculate, to automatically give more weight/credence to the versions of the stories told by the family, hired PI, defendant, or whoever.

Hand in hand with this is the a priori assumption that the police and/or prosecutors must be incompetent, corrupt, covering up, even in cases when there is no known evidence that this has occurred.

It some times makes it frustrating trying to debate if you believe the theory of the police or prosecutor, yet you have folks coming right out of the gate just automatically disbelieving the authorities and giving the opposing side a leg up.
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The only ones of those I'd disagree with is Norman Ladner, just a bit too strange for me to believe suicide. I think in general though the 'did he commit suicide OR not?' cases on UM are too far fetched, but I always found Ladner one of the most questionable of all of them.

There are some times that the cops in the story are so incompetent that It's hard not to doubt everything they say.

The two examples I'd think of are the Albuquerque Police re: Kaitlyn Arquette and even more so the North Carolina police interviewed in the Debbie Wolfe segment, to me one of the most frustrating UM cases.
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Larry Race is innocent
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Don't know if it's unpopular anymore but o believe Cindy James was very mentally ill and there was no harasser
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A few more where I am against the majority are thinking Cindy James was murdered, Al Henderson did not harm Jean Moore and that the Maples took their grandchildren to protect them from being abused.
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That Jeffrey Digmin, Tony Lombardi, Norman Ladner, etc. committed suicide.

Or that defendants like Thomas Drake, Larry Race, John Branion, Stuart Heaton, etc. could actually be guilty.

It just seems that there is a tendency on here, for reasons I can only speculate, to automatically give more weight/credence to the versions of the stories told by the family, hired PI, defendant, or whoever.

Hand in hand with this is the a priori assumption that the police and/or prosecutors must be incompetent, corrupt, covering up, even in cases when there is no known evidence that this has occurred.

It some times makes it frustrating trying to debate if you believe the theory of the police or prosecutor, yet you have folks coming right out of the gate just automatically disbelieving the authorities and giving the opposing side a leg up.
I wasn't convinced by any of the military suicides that are supposed to actually be murders.

Nor that girl who's mother used a broom to measure her arm as a means to rule out her daughter firing the shotgun.
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Nor that girl who's mother used a broom to measure her arm as a means to rule out her daughter firing the shotgun.
I agree. I am 100% convinced Rae Ann Mossor killed herself.
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Don't know if it's unpopular anymore but o believe Cindy James was very mentally ill and there was no harasser

I believe this as well
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I also think Norman Leander committed suicide. His parents mentioned he loved the woods/animals so it makes sense he ended his life in a place where he felt at peace
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Rae Ann Mossor I would normally think suicide but I must admit the placement of the gun is kind of strange
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Never believed the full story of the Casie Nicole. I'm not saying Billy murdered his shipmates, but his story doesn't add up nor make sense. No way he could've swam that distance. I wonder if he just chose not to go along with the others but lied so he wouldn't seem like a bad guy?

I also wonder if he chose to save himself and let the others drown?
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and that the Maples took their grandchildren to protect them from being abused.
If that were the motive, why didn't they take the third child? There was another son they didn't bother with. That's what always made that theory fall apart for me.

The fact that such cases bring out such strong and polarizing opinions is probably why 1) later Unsolved Mysteries didn't have parental/familial kidnapping cases 2) almost all of them are cut from the Amazon seasons.
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Rae Ann Mossor I would normally think suicide but I must admit the placement of the gun is kind of strange
I don't remember the specifics at present but I think a lot of these generic "inconsistencies" can be explained by an involuntary body movement or spasm brought on by the event, to say nothing of weather conditions like wind, knocking things in an unexpected manor.
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