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Old 07-25-2018, 09:33 AM   #136
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I've gone back and forth on this case. Either Hank or the bikers did it, and the other are red herrings. The Prime update says that the police were able to verify "some" details of Branch's death bed confession. I did not know that of the week she went missing there was a huge bike rally in Daytona in which members of Branch's gang attended. I don't think it's a coincidence that Branch knew of the scar that was never publicized. The biker theory seems to be the more accurate one, since there hasn't been any verifiable ties to Hank other than Amy mentioning a man named Hank and a picture of a white van in one of her photos.
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Hank might just have been somebody imaginary-a bored/restless kid inventing somebody, a bit like Tara Calico's creative writing inspired by those abysmal books she & many teen girls liked back them.

It is possible she got into a biker gangs vehicle, although it could have been anybody. I always take the details never released stuff with a pinch of salt as that has been shown not to be the case in cases in the past where the media have printed stuff or announced it on television-if so it would have been easy for the biker guy to do a library search before meeting her. Branch's supposed deathbed confession differs from what he told Mrs Billig-instead of her being his 'old lady' for some time before he sold her now they took her to party, they gave/forced her to have too many drugs, assaulted her & her heart stopped, so they fed her to the alligators in the everglades the same day.

Also it is quite possible that he saw a photo of her in the mothers house where the scar was showing, or maybe he got her to volunteer the information without her knowing as psychics do. Either way they were purely trying to get as much money out of her as possible.

I cannot make out all the print here, but it s possible the scar which would be a big identifying feature might even have been listed on missing posters she had made up.

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Hank might just have been somebody imaginary-a bored/restless kid inventing somebody, a bit like Tara Calico's creative writing inspired by those abysmal books she & many teen girls liked back them.

It is possible she got into a biker gangs vehicle, although it could have been anybody. I always take the details never released stuff with a pinch of salt as that has been shown not to be the case in cases in the past where the media have printed stuff or announced it on television-if so it would have been easy for the biker guy to do a library search before meeting her. Branch's supposed deathbed confession differs from what he told Mrs Billig-instead of her being his 'old lady' for some time before he sold her now they took her to party, they gave/forced her to have too many drugs, assaulted her & her heart stopped, so they fed her to the alligators in the everglades the same day.

Also it is quite possible that he saw a photo of her in the mothers house where the scar was showing, or maybe he got her to volunteer the information without her knowing as psychics do. Either way they were purely trying to get as much money out of her as possible.

I cannot make out all the print here, but it s possible the scar which would be a big identifying feature might even have been listed on missing posters she had made up.

http://i.imgur.com/h8w3I5Dl.png
not sure I buy into this dude going through all the trouble of going to a library for a story....but I can see him and others mkaing up stuff just to toy with her, and they either know something or they don't. The scar isn't reportedly something featured in the missing posters though, and if even some of his details were verified then it still leaves the mom on the right path, even if all the known details or info isn't corrrect
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don't bikers have a code to basically just leave normies alone? Is it possible bikers have no dealings with her situation?

Why would a biker gang want heat on them for no reason? Most organized gangs don't just go for random people. They also are not desperate for women either.
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Susan Billig was one of the most admirable people ever featured on UM. It’s a shame she never found peace.

My theory on this case is that Amy was not kidnapped, but encountered the bikers socially, and being a free-spirited type, partied with them willingly. She probably enjoyed the lifestyle, what they stood for, etc. but one thing lead to another and she either died of an overdose or got killed within a few years of her disappearance.

Death by misadventure, more or less.

The Hank thing doesn’t add up to much in my opinion. It could be the same guy but there’s no evidence whatsoever that he was involved. Blair seemed like a mentally ill person maybe with an obsessive crush on Amy but not enough balls to have made any drastic moves.
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don't bikers have a code to basically just leave normies alone? Is it possible bikers have no dealings with her situation?
Most of the time, yeah, but young bikers sometimes hang out in the same social situations as other young people. This was probably even more common in the 70s.
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My theory on this case is that Amy was not kidnapped, but encountered the bikers socially, and being a free-spirited type, partied with them willingly. She probably enjoyed the lifestyle, what they stood for, etc. but one thing lead to another and she either died of an overdose or got killed within a few years of her disappearance.
I'm at the point now where I don't think the bikers were involved. I'm not saying they didn't take women in the past but I think it was just a well timed coincidence they happened to be driving through the area at the time. The bikers just strung Susan along like so many other people cruelly did through those years.

Keep in mind, Amy knew that her father was expecting her within the next 10 minutes or so and her friends were expecting to meet her after that. So she knew immediately that multiple people would have been looking for her right away if she suddenly changed plans for anything else.

As soon as she got off the phone with her father, she walked a block and half down her street, reached the corner and stuck out her thumb. (Street maintenance workers verified seeing her hitchhike at that corner.) Hitchhiking was not at all out of the ordinary in 1974. Whoever picked her up at the corner killed her, I believe. It was as simple as that. And the family was left spending the next 30-something years being purposely led down dead end roads.
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Susan Billig was one of the most admirable people ever featured on UM. It’s a shame she never found peace.

My theory on this case is that Amy was not kidnapped, but encountered the bikers socially, and being a free-spirited type, partied with them willingly. She probably enjoyed the lifestyle, what they stood for, etc. but one thing lead to another and she either died of an overdose or got killed within a few years of her disappearance.

Death by misadventure, more or less.

The Hank thing doesn’t add up to much in my opinion. It could be the same guy but there’s no evidence whatsoever that he was involved. Blair seemed like a mentally ill person maybe with an obsessive crush on Amy but not enough balls to have made any drastic moves.

This pretty much fits Occam's Razor for me. I asked myself what's more of a stretch - A high school girl ending up at a wild party and getting drugged by some unsavory characters?? Or the mention of a name and the picture of a van, leading back to a mentally unstable alcoholic who managed to pull off the perfect crime while leaving no trace evidence behind??

I think this guy (Blair) knew of Amy and/or her family - how, I don't know. He developed a fascination/infatuation with her and, during his drunken binges, harassed her - telling her about fantasies of them jetting away to South America and such. Enough harassment may have led Amy to mention Blair in her diary, but I don't think he did it.

On the other hand, Branch knowing about her scar (which was not public info) and police verifying several parts of his story makes the biker angle more credible - thinking of Gus Hoffman for a moment, drugging, raping and other unspeakable acts wouldn't be out of character for bikers like Branch and his ilk.
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From what I read in 1998 the guy confessed on his death bed. Then apparently susan accepted it. Then a couple years later susan said she didnt believe it anymore. The police believe the confession was true.
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Susan Billig was one of the most admirable people ever featured on UM. It’s a shame she never found peace.

My theory on this case is that Amy was not kidnapped, but encountered the bikers socially, and being a free-spirited type, partied with them willingly. She probably enjoyed the lifestyle, what they stood for, etc. but one thing lead to another and she either died of an overdose or got killed within a few years of her disappearance.

Death by misadventure, more or less.

The Hank thing doesn’t add up to much in my opinion. It could be the same guy but there’s no evidence whatsoever that he was involved. Blair seemed like a mentally ill person maybe with an obsessive crush on Amy but not enough balls to have made any drastic moves.
I can admire her tenacity, but really she was totally deluded & spent decades jumping down various rabbit holes/being exploited for money by con artists. She reminds me of Noreen Gosch-somebody who cannot accept that her daughters vanishing/murder was likely as straightforward as her hitch-hiking & just getting in the wrong persons car & instead created/was sold multiple scenarios due to the publicity she created that led her into a total fantasy world where she even put herself in danger. She let some random weirdo taunt her for decades, flew over to the UK to investigate some ludicrous tale about some biker dude wandering around quaint rural villages offering a now thirty something Amy as a sex slave, she was hanging around with bikers who were patently ripping her off seeing how desperate she was etc.
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