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Old 03-10-2006, 11:55 AM   #16
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I'm in the final stages of completing a 700 Disc trade. I posted out the first 630+ discs within the first ten days of arranging the trade. The remaining discs took longer as they needed to be created and they were sent about a month after.

Almost all of my trades are in the 100-200 disc ammount now-a-days. I'm fine with it.
I did a couple of 400 discs trades before christmas also.

Its not a drain on my writers, and when they do die, I just go to the shop and get a new one. (Note, when a writer dies in a dongle box, it will still work in a pc, so don't throw it away just yet. Its all about the writing formula, a donglebox works diffrently to a pc. And lowering the write spped can also bring a writer back to life also).
But when you concider the price of a writer, compared to the number of disc you'll get in trade created by it, theres no comparison. To buy the discs you'll be getting at shop price, is a mere fraction of the price of the writer.
So if you really use this as an excuse not to do a big trade, then theres no hope.

As for the trade itself, I have to know the trader well. If its a new trader to me, then they send first. Which surprising has happened with some of the 150 disc trades!
But I enjoy them, as I get tons of new shows to watch, which will keep me entertained until retirement.
Yes, I hate the staying up till 1am running off disc after discs, every day for weeks upon end, but thats my choice, and its only temporarily. I don't have to work like that, i choose to so that they can recieve their half of the trade sooner.

And 100 discs cost about £20.00 ($38.00) which is nothing. I concider this hobby 'gambling'. But where the odds are better.
On some occasions, your going to strike out and lose some discs to a bad-trader, but for the majority of the time, your going to come out on top. The cost of the gamble (the discs) is small to what you'll get back in return. Once you get the shows you traded for, you not only have new shows to watch, but new shows to add to your list, and trade with again. You get so much more in return for the little you have to send.

Anyway, hope that helps.

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Old 03-10-2006, 12:07 PM   #17
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What's a donglebox?

I agree, it all comes down to choices. Which is why it's a good idea to at least look at a trader's trading terms (if they've posted them) first before contacting them with a shopping list, to see how they've chosen to work in the hobby. When a trader posts something I'm interested in, the first thing I look at before contacting them is their want list to see if I might have something they'd want in return, then their trading terms if they've posted them.

I don't deal in rips at all - I have one set that's a rip, and I didn't realize it was before I traded for it, so it's not on my list of available shows. So trading is on top of my retail purchases.
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Old 03-10-2006, 12:22 PM   #18
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Like Deb, I feel I'm spending too much time on this hobby, right now. I've built up my collection quite a bit recently (thank you to those who've helped - you know who you are! ) and need to go through a couple of stacks of discs & catalog them. (I mean, what's the point of having the stuff, if you don't remember you have it or can't find it when you want to watch it?) I'm also recording several shows and doing some authoring as well. Plus, I'd like to WATCH some of my new acquisitions! So I try to keep my trading down to 1 or 2 at a time with maybe a 3rd one in negotiation. It also depends upon WHAT I'm trading out. I'm more apt to do a larger trade when all I have to do is make copies of DVDs. But if it's something that's not yet transferred from VHS or needs to be authored, that takes more of my time & more of my computer's time & will go more slowly.

I really prefer trades in the 1-30 disc size. As mentioned earlier, if the package gets lost, damaged or there's a compatibility issue, it's less discs to have to replace. And there are not too many people who have enough shows I'd want to warrant a larger trade, at this point.

Postage doesn't bother me, either, if someone has something I really want. It's not unusual for me to trade one 30 or 60 minute show for another, if it's a show I'm looking for. I once traded a 30 minute show for a 7 minute segment of a show. Eventhough the 7 minute segment was only 7 minutes of a longer show, it's the only part of the show that's known to be in existance & very hard to come by. It was certainly worth the trade, to me.
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Old 03-10-2006, 12:37 PM   #19
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If its someone I know and have good trades with
100+ discs is fine
b/c i know what to expect

but if its someone i have never dealt with i avoid big trades
EVEN IF THEY SEND First
b/c i have had people before send me 100 or 150 discs and they are all messed up and useless
and they get mad when i tell them i wont trade for junk like that and just send it back uncopied

so the moral is, know who u deal with?
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Old 03-10-2006, 01:02 PM   #20
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i have had the same poor luck on 5 disc trades

poor discs are not limited to 100 disc trades

they occur in every size trade


for those who are afraid they spent too much time in the buring, then drink one less capachino a week and by a duplicator

ebay has single targets for under $200 shipped

they will handle between 4 and 8 discs an hour, depends on the size of course

just an hour an day yield 30 to 50 per week

too much $$, what did you pay for that slow computer you have, now this looks like a bargain doesnt it???


i have a wire serving cart from sams club--its industrial strength

i have some dupers on the cart

it rolls into the tv room with ease

i can watch my favorite tv shows and run discs at the same time

not tied to the office

watch a movie and in that 2 hours, you could easily burn 8 to 15 discs with one duplicator

get a two target machine and have another set for the next trade, in no extra time---

dont just sit and complain that _______ will not mess with your 10 disc trades

make yourself avaible for some action

no one says you need to do a 100 or more

but, ill pass on 10 disc trades all day long. due to cost, and time involved in messing around

most of my trades are made from my stock shelf

almost every trade can be shipped the next day
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Old 03-10-2006, 02:09 PM   #21
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ok lets say u have a set of 10-15 discs just an example number and all of the stuff is dual layer.. can u change it to single layer with a duplicator??? or how do you go about doing that? that is an issue i have at the moment. a lot of things that i trade right now i have to convert with the computer.. but i would really like to buy a duplicator.. what are you currently using right now and which one do u reccomend 500$ range or so.. i mean my dream is to have a robotic one but i dont have like 3000$ to spend on one.. soo what is recommended to use???? i would like a place with a warrenty.. ebay garrentys me if i get ripped off tuff s***
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Well some traders only have one duplicator (like me), as for other traders may have up to 5 duplicators *cough*scottdvd*cough*
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well can someone tell me name, brand, store, etc for a good one??
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I only do about one trade a month or so and everyone I have done is always a small trade. I think the most I did was a 6 disc trade.
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Old 03-10-2006, 07:30 PM   #25
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i hope i dont cause any fights here with this question but i was just thinking about how un reasonable some people can be it all goes back to my one and so far only attempt at trading it happened way back in 1993 and i was trying to get some early hee haw eps and at that time a hhad a second vcr so it was simple for me to set up trades . anyway i saw an ad in a collector mag. and he said that he had 7000 shows and welcomed all trades so i get on the phone with this guy and i knew i was heading for disaster from the second i started talking to him first i asked him what sort of shows he had meaning of course what type of shows did he specialise in ie comedy drama or whatknot well instead of saying i mostily deal in such and such type of show he was very snippy and said WHAT DD YOU WANT ME TO DO DO YOU WANT ME TO NAME ALL 7000 shows i said no and then explained what i meant and so he asked me what i had for trade and then gave me a whole list of shows he wanted that i didnt have and he kept getting madder and madder at me because i didnt have them and then he asked me how long ive had a vcr and i told him that i got my first one in 1984 he then talked to me like i was a stupid idot and asked me well if you have had a vcr that long then how come you dont have any of the shows i asked about i then had to explain to him that i was not really a trader and that i was tot going to spend good money and waste tape watching and taping things that i didnt like he then wanted to aurgue about how i shouldnt be so unreasonable so then he asked me if i had any gong show eps i said yes he then asked me if i had any with gene gene the dancing machine i said yes he said great because he wanted one i said great thinking i was home free on the hee haw eps but then he asked me if it was an nbc airing i said no that it was from usa network he then said forget it he then asked me if i had any network airings of game shows i said that i had the last week of the richard dawson family feud from abc and as a bonus i had a few synde feuds too he said great i want those . again i made the giant mistake of thinking that this moron might not be as bad as i thought until he asked me4 what proof i had that these feud eps were the last week of abc eps i then started to think that this guy might not be all there but i kept my cool and explained that i was sitting at home watching thhe eps off of my tv as i taped them .bleieve it or not he asked how i was sure that they were the last week of eps and how do i know that you didnt tape a different set of ep and maybe you just thought it was the last week. so he said he didnt want these ether but i kept trying to please this weirdo so then i asked him if he would trade some of my hee haw eps for the ones i wanted he then goes on a rant about how no he dosent want any more hee haw eps how much he hates hee haw and everything about hee haw so after a calm him down i try one more thing that im sure will work earler he had told me that he collected all norman lear shows as long as they were complete network broadcasts with comm. and at that time i had some jeffersons eps with comms billboards the whole nine yards and so i told him i had these eps and he said no that he didnt want these ether finally i had had enough of this guy and i said but you just told me that you collected all norman lear eps as long as they were network telecasts he said to me but i dont like the jeffersons. well enough was enough i slammed and i mean SLAMMED THE PHONE DOWN so hard it could be heard in 2 states well i have plenty of old hee haw eps now and ive made some wonderful trades here at so and other places too life is too short to dael with pains in the a;; like the man i just discribed and im sorry if my story went wayyy too long but the question i really have for all of you is have you ever had a trader not just here but anywhere be so unreasable please share your horror stories ive always wondered if anyboddy else had an experience like mine
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Disc trades are the bomb! I hate VHS, it's so old and nobody wants to do trade tapes nowandays.
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im so sorry for ruining this therad with my own therad im not sure how this hapened
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im so sorry for ruining this therad with my own therad im not sure how this hapened
its a little more civilized now

the better prepared traders have web sites and you can sit and look for hours and pick what you would like

some folks even list them by single episode

shipping is quite cheap, compared to vhs trades
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ok lets say u have a set of 10-15 discs just an example number and all of the stuff is dual layer.. can u change it to single layer with a duplicator??? or how do you go about doing that? that is an issue i have at the moment. a lot of things that i trade right now i have to convert with the computer.. but i would really like to buy a duplicator.. what are you currently using right now and which one do u reccomend 500$ range or so.. i mean my dream is to have a robotic one but i dont have like 3000$ to spend on one.. soo what is recommended to use???? i would like a place with a warrenty.. ebay garrentys me if i get ripped off tuff s***

mine will burn dual sided disc, but not if they are copy coded

for $500, a 7 target is avaible

a single target is about $200

only advice i would add is --dont buy anything sony

you will learn why if you do

go on ebay and do the old search, spend some time reading
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