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Old 07-31-2019, 04:19 PM   #211
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I wonder how this will be without Stack.
A fair shade better than it would be with him.

He doesn't talk much now.
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Old 08-01-2019, 08:24 AM   #212
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Found some news on the new Unsolved Mysteries...

EDIT: My apologies, I see this article was already posted.
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Old 08-01-2019, 11:19 AM   #213
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The case of Lena Chapin, who vanished without a trace in Dent County, Missouri in 2006, will be one of the episodes featured in the upcoming Netflix series.

http://www.thesalemnewsonline.com/ne...d2f556b16.html
The first crumb of info we've gotten in a while... interesting
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Know this is a bit OT here, but I hadn't heard about this, and I always considered UM and Rescue 911 to be 'complimentary' shows.

https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/res...es-1203015488/
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I found an article from January 2019 featuring an interview with John Cosgrove. He stated the new show will not feature a host. I wonder if anything has changed since...

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https://www.channelnonfiction.com/in...ed-to-netflix/
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Old 08-14-2019, 11:32 AM   #216
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I found an article from January 2019 featuring an interview with John Cosgrove. He stated the new show will not feature a host. I wonder if anything has changed since...

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https://www.channelnonfiction.com/in...ed-to-netflix/
"Itíll be very different and thereís no host and no narrator, so it will be pure documentary style."

I guess I can envision this and see how it could work.... clip of a family member talking cuts straight to a recreation of what may have happened, or an interview with LE.
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Old 09-15-2019, 02:01 AM   #217
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I found an article from January 2019 featuring an interview with John Cosgrove. He stated the new show will not feature a host. I wonder if anything has changed since...

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Well, f#$% there goes any real interest I have in the new series. I can't stand how the newer shows are done either in all text or with some artsy camera angles introducing a survivor or family member telling the story. I'm sure I'll still watch it, but they are shooting themselves in the foot for trying to make it so contemporary.

Why do they think they are getting the numbers that they are on streaming services? BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE THE ORIGINAL FORMAT. If it isn't broke, don't fix it. Minor adjustments for a new era are to be expected, but Unsolved Mysteries without a host? Check please.
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Well, f#$% there goes any real interest I have in the new series. I can't stand how the newer shows are done either in all text or with some artsy camera angles introducing a survivor or family member telling the story. I'm sure I'll still watch it, but they are shooting themselves in the foot for trying to make it so contemporary.
I assume the fact that the production company behind Stranger Things is involved means it will be self-consciously retro.
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The Stranger Things connection doesn't mean there's anything retro about Unsolved Mysteries. But "The producers behind Cheaper By The Dozen 2" or "The producers behind Night at the Museum" doesn't have the same curb appeal.
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Well, f#$% there goes any real interest I have in the new series. I can't stand how the newer shows are done either in all text or with some artsy camera angles introducing a survivor or family member telling the story. I'm sure I'll still watch it, but they are shooting themselves in the foot for trying to make it so contemporary.

Why do they think they are getting the numbers that they are on streaming services? BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE THE ORIGINAL FORMAT. If it isn't broke, don't fix it. Minor adjustments for a new era are to be expected, but Unsolved Mysteries without a host? Check please.
I agree and I was hoping for more of the original format -- creepy and with a host.

I have the feeling now that the new episodes will be similar to the new UM episodes they did for a while on YouTube (for example, Maura Murray). In those they have the surviving relatives/friends narrate the case as scenes are played. They aren't bad but they definitely don't have the same look and feel of classic UM. It's more of that story format which isn't bad but it is very different than what we all grew up with.
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Well, f#$% there goes any real interest I have in the new series. I can't stand how the newer shows are done either in all text or with some artsy camera angles introducing a survivor or family member telling the story. I'm sure I'll still watch it, but they are shooting themselves in the foot for trying to make it so contemporary.

Why do they think they are getting the numbers that they are on streaming services? BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE THE ORIGINAL FORMAT. If it isn't broke, don't fix it. Minor adjustments for a new era are to be expected, but Unsolved Mysteries without a host? Check please.
I share your feelings, but realistically, how should they produce the show?
There's quite a bit of intangibles that make the original show great. People complain about the conciseness of the segments, but that too is why it's great. Here's a photo or sketch; quick dramatization; quick speculation; opposing viewpoint; and on to the next story. They left details out all the time, and that's where our imaginations kicked in.

It's also difficult to replicate a former state in time. Nostalgia gets very close, but intentionally gets it wrong, to differentiate from the source material. Stranger Things is an exercise in aesthetics, but seemingly fails to capture the actual zeitgeist of the period. To explore this concept I have two experiments:

1) Watch all the 80s "kid cast" films. Then watch Super 8. The aesthetic is there, but the films rings hollow.

2) Watch as much of this channel as you can. https://www.youtube.com/user/80sCommercialVault/
It will figuratively transport you back in time, to the 1980s. I can watch 80s films back-to-back, but the only thing that will actually take me back there are these commercials. It's a unique experience that only occurs with people who lived during that time. Young folks watch these commercials and just laugh.

Another thing I want to mention is perception; how humans thought in the 80s and 90s. The unexplained segments at the beginning of the series were taken seriously, likely due to modernist thinking (There's a logical explanation for this, and it's extraterrestrials). Near the end of the series, the unexplained segments suffered tremendously in quality, I speculate, due to a shift towards postmodernism. Why bother searching for the truth if the truth is whatever you want it to be?

What are we hoping for here, ultimately? A dramatized crime/mystery show with an 80s aesthetic that tries to solve 21st century crimes/mysteries with an 80s frame of mind? Can you imagine that? It's a wishy-washy concept. They'd have to pretend not to be aware of certain scientific and cultural advancements to interact in that hypothetical space. Even the original UM suffered from presentism in some places.

Things were scarier and more mysterious when you had to reach a land line to call the police; Things aren't that scary or mysterious when everyone has a computer more powerful than the Apollo Lunar Module in their front pocket.
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I share your feelings, but realistically, how should they produce the show?
There's quite a bit of intangibles that make the original show great. People complain about the conciseness of the segments, but that too is why it's great. Here's a photo or sketch; quick dramatization; quick speculation; opposing viewpoint; and on to the next story. They left details out all the time, and that's where our imaginations kicked in.

It's also difficult to replicate a former state in time. Nostalgia gets very close, but intentionally gets it wrong, to differentiate from the source material. Stranger Things is an exercise in aesthetics, but seemingly fails to capture the actual zeitgeist of the period. To explore this concept I have two experiments:

1) Watch all the 80s "kid cast" films. Then watch Super 8. The aesthetic is there, but the films rings hollow.

2) Watch as much of this channel as you can. https://www.youtube.com/user/80sCommercialVault/
It will figuratively transport you back in time, to the 1980s. I can watch 80s films back-to-back, but the only thing that will actually take me back there are these commercials. It's a unique experience that only occurs with people who lived during that time. Young folks watch these commercials and just laugh.

Another thing I want to mention is perception; how humans thought in the 80s and 90s. The unexplained segments at the beginning of the series were taken seriously, likely due to modernist thinking (There's a logical explanation for this, and it's extraterrestrials). Near the end of the series, the unexplained segments suffered tremendously in quality, I speculate, due to a shift towards postmodernism. Why bother searching for the truth if the truth is whatever you want it to be?

What are we hoping for here, ultimately? A dramatized crime/mystery show with an 80s aesthetic that tries to solve 21st century crimes/mysteries with an 80s frame of mind? Can you imagine that? It's a wishy-washy concept. They'd have to pretend not to be aware of certain scientific and cultural advancements to interact in that hypothetical space. Even the original UM suffered from presentism in some places.

Things were scarier and more mysterious when you had to reach a land line to call the police; Things aren't that scary or mysterious when everyone has a computer more powerful than the Apollo Lunar Module in their front pocket.
A lot of this is dead on.

If they try to recreate the original, that is almost certainly doomed to fail. For the reasons above and many others, it's not feasible.

I'm sure that they are not trying to make it like all the present day ID channel stuff, because there is no point in wasting the UM name and franchise to try to pawn off yet another one of those shows.

It has to be something that harnesses some of the spirit and vibe of the OG but adapted to 2019. I'm hopeful that they have the right people on board to make it happen, but we won't know until we see it.
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I never had high hopes that this would be even close to the original. I just hope CM learned from the disaster that was the Farina remakes. The overuse of sound effects, the fake call center, and the poor graphics are what really sunk that reboot.

They don't need to try to recreate what Stack did. Just keep the same pacing, feeling, and storytelling as the original and that will be fine. The early music was creepy because it was simple. When it comes to UM, less is more in terms of sound, graphics, and special effects.
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I never had high hopes that this would be even close to the original. I just hope CM learned from the disaster that was the Farina remakes. The overuse of sound effects, the fake call center, and the poor graphics are what really sunk that reboot.
The budget for that version must have been *tiny*.

...which makes me think they must've made a ton of money off of it considering how many times those eps got shown.
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I'd love to see this on Netflix around Halloween, but doubtful it will be released then as we've heard nothing about it.
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