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Old 10-02-2009, 12:57 PM   #31
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For the record the pictures are the offical photos taken by the police. The clothing that you see on are not what the family recieved. The police justified their actions for not givng the clothing back by stating there was too much decomposition on the body and they had to destroy the items. The explanation did not come until 6yrs later after the pictures were released. Up until that point the family had no idea that someone changed his clothing. The items which were returned to the family at the time of death were brown leather boots, a blue hoodie jacket and a ripped up bag. if you closly examine the pictures none of these items are near the body. The items were the items the police said were on his person at the time of death. The items returned to the family are in fact those that belonged to keith, however the items on the body on the tree are not.


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That photo in Jet magazine is very disturbing to view. I know we're all pretty well used to seeing and talking about horrific subject matter, but I wasn't expecting the photo to be so large, or to be the first thing to show up after clicking the link.
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Old 10-02-2009, 11:16 PM   #32
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This is absolutely a case where LE bungled the investigation from day one. Whether it was done from malice (i.e., the police had something to do with the crime) or incompetence (sadly, not uncommon among LE), the failure to properly investigate this crime when it was fresh is inexcusable and, sadly, likely ensures it will never be solved. I hope I'm wrong.
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Old 10-02-2009, 11:49 PM   #33
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The Keith Warren segment has always been hard for me to watch.
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The Keith Warren case has always been very strange and sad to me. I really feel for the family and for him. For some reason, even those this happened in 86 I believe, it always seemed more recent to me. Maybe because it was a newer segment, or because his mother seemed so young. Keith seemed like a nice kid and reminds me of someone I know, so I have always felt like I knew him in a way. I hope this gets solved and I can't believe it has already been so long. It is too bad for everyone involved.
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Wow! That picture is truly disturbing. I'm very surprised it was actually printed in that article. To think that those photos were actually mailed to Keith's mother.

I just watched this segment for the first time in years and it's still hard to watch. Keith looked like a nice, very harmless guy in those photos. It's hard to believe that someone would want to end his life the way they did.

I'm reminded of a quote from one of the investigators in the Danny Casolaro case. He said, "When police screw up, they cover up." That seems so blatantly obvious in this case. There's just too many questionable moves by the police from day one.

My thoughts and prayers go out to Keith's family.
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For the record the pictures are the offical photos taken by the police.
Is the pictures from what the mother received or is the pictures from the police? I mean have the pictures the mother received been confirmed authentic?
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The items returned to the family are in fact those that belonged to keith, however the items on the body on the tree are not.
This is strange indeed, I can not see any logical reason why someone would change Keith's clothes. It make no sense. Thats is why I ask if the photos are confirmed authentic.

That being said I'm pretty sure this is a racist related killing. Keith was known for dating white girls, and the key to solving this case could be to find all the white girls he was/had been dating. It could be one of the white girls family member or friends which are responsible. The only reason the police did so little to investigate is because they are racist themselves.
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Yes , the pictures are authentic and were confirmed by the police department to be the photo's taken by the investigative team at the scene.

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Is the pictures from what the mother received or is the pictures from the police? I mean have the pictures the mother received been confirmed authentic?

This is strange indeed, I can not see any logical reason why someone would change Keith's clothes. It make no sense. Thats is why I ask if the photos are confirmed authentic.

That being said I'm pretty sure this is a racist related killing. Keith was known for dating white girls, and the key to solving this case could be to find all the white girls he was/had been dating. It could be one of the white girls family member or friends which are responsible. The only reason the police did so little to investigate is because they are racist themselves.
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Sadly Keith's mom passed away unexpectedly at the end of May this year.
I am so sorry. Please accept my condolences. I hope that she is resting at peace and with her son. This situation must be very hard on your family and friends. I hope you get the answers you deserve.
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Good Lord, those pictures. I admit that when I first saw this segment as a kid, I was morbidly curious to see the pictures that were sent to his mom. But actually seeing them, especially the one where his face is shown, is just so sad. Poor guy.

I know that the clothes he was found wearing did not belong to him, but did the police ever say where they found the clothes that were returned to his mom? (this included his pair of brown boots.) Were they near the body? or was this never addressed?
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Neither the Unsolved Mysteries segment nor any articles seem to mention anything about the final hours or days of Keith's life. Who was the last person to see him alive? When was the last time any of his friends or family talked to him? Was he acting strangely? Was he acting scared? Depressed?

That car of shady looking characters looking for Keith happened a full week before he died. And then we don't anything else about that week except for the fact that Mark Findley was looking for him as well.

I'd like to know more about that last week.
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Good Lord, those pictures. I admit that when I first saw this segment as a kid, I was morbidly curious to see the pictures that were sent to his mom. But actually seeing them, especially the one where his face is shown, is just so sad. Poor guy.

I know that the clothes he was found wearing did not belong to him, but did the police ever say where they found the clothes that were returned to his mom? (this included his pair of brown boots.) Were they near the body? or was this never addressed?
the explanation given to the family by police concerning the clothing was
that the items that they received were in the vicinity of the body but not on the body
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Neither the Unsolved Mysteries segment nor any articles seem to mention anything about the final hours or days of Keith's life. Who was the last person to see him alive? When was the last time any of his friends or family talked to him? Was he acting strangely? Was he acting scared? Depressed?

That car of shady looking characters looking for Keith happened a full week before he died. And then we don't anything else about that week except for the fact that Mark Findley was looking for him as well.

I'd like to know more about that last week.

The week of his death, on that Monday Keith had a conversaton with his sister and had planned to pick her up from out of town and bring her home. On Tuesday Keith left the house and did not return home that evening or the next day. This was out of character for him. Keith always let his mother know if he planned on staying over a friends house. His mother tried to file a missing persons report on Wednesday and was told by police that she would have to wait 48hrs before she could file the report. Keith's body was found on that Thursday.

On a side note on the offical medical examiners report he stated he had talked to Keith's sister and she stated that Keith was depressed and missing for several days. This was a bold face lie. Keith only had one sister and at the time of the report she was not in the state of Maryland. The ME has never had contact with her.
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Interesting. So basically we have roughly around a 48 hour period from the time Keith left home on Tuesday to the time his body was found on Thursday.

This happened in July and Keith was a month away from starting college so he wasn't leaving for school on Tuesday. Did he have a Summer job? If so, his co-workers might have been the last ones to see him. If he didn't have a job, then it's much harder to trace his steps from the time he left home. And really...you had to wait 48 hours before you could report a missing person in those days? I always thought it was 24 hours.

The issue of the clothes always bugged me. I always suspected Keith had been murdered and his killers made a lame attempt to make it look like suicide. I just never understood why they changed his clothes. Killing him was their main goal. What difference did it make what he was wearing?
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The issue of the clothes always bugged me. I always suspected Keith had been murdered and his killers made a lame attempt to make it look like suicide. I just never understood why they changed his clothes. Killing him was their main goal. What difference did it make what he was wearing?
According to the segment, "the only items of clothing returned to the family were Keith's jacket and brown boots". If that is true, than the only thing I can think of is that the rest of his original clothing (shirt, pants, etc..) had to have had some evidence of foul play on it. So those items were disposed of. He was probably redressed because they wanted it to look like a suicide, and it would have seemed odd if he'd been nude. That's the best I can come up with.
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According to the segment, "the only items of clothing returned to the family were Keith's jacket and brown boots". If that is true, than the only thing I can think of is that the rest of his original clothing (shirt, pants, etc..) had to have had some evidence of foul play on it. So those items were disposed of. He was probably redressed because they wanted it to look like a suicide, and it would have seemed odd if he'd been nude. That's the best I can come up with.
If you recall the independent ME stated that Keith had high levels of several different chemicals in his body 7yrs after his death. The levels were so high that the ME couldn’t imagine what they were in 1986. The ME also stated that Keith would not have had the mental or physical capability to tie the rope in such an elaborate manner let alone climb up on something and jump. The chemicals were not those used in embalming, they were paint thinners and degreasers. It is the belief of the family that Keith threw up on his clothing and soiled them.
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