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Old 06-01-2009, 08:48 PM   #76
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Has anyone considered that maybe Poe was subdued or dead by Megadeth's feet. If he was behind the counter when the customer came in, Poe might have been as well? That would explain, if he is the killer/kidnapper, why he would stick around to wait on a customer.
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Hmm, unlikely IMO. He's a vagrant, a common thief IMO. Maybe he's the killer who knows, but he sure had a unique look to him. If he's the killer why does he let himself have a conversation with a customer? Plus he's raggedly looking, he looks like he belonged to a garage band. Is he really going to change his entire look? Would he risk that by getting caught by a customer?

This is a convenient store in the middle of the night. The people that show up at that time arent always "salt of the earth" people. He was likely a thief.
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When she first came into the market, was he already behind the counter? did he seem startled or unnerved by her presence? I know that the UM segment portrayed the guy as being very calm, but who knows if that was just how the actor decided to portray him or if it was based on the statement from the witness.
I agree. I would like to get a more accurate account of Megadeths actions and appearance when she walked in on him.

I tend to believe that Megadeth is the killer, because his politeness and accomadating manner seems in line with a person looking for a new victim.

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Hmm, unlikely IMO. He's a vagrant, a common thief IMO
Sure he could be a common thief. But he could also be a common thief that killed Debra Poe as well. He may have been on drugs, tried to rob the store and shot Debra in a panic.

Guilty or not, Megadeth is a witness and he should be found.
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Has anyone considered that maybe Poe was subdued or dead by Megadeth's feet. If he was behind the counter when the customer came in, Poe might have been as well? That would explain, if he is the killer/kidnapper, why he would stick around to wait on a customer.
That's an interesting possibility that I don't think has been mentioned. I never thought to think of it myself. I think it's certainly plausible--and as ms_bates stated earlier, there's no way of really knowing if he seemed calm, as in the reenactment, or nervous (I find, however, UM usually does an exceptional job of portraying events nearly just as they actually happened. Who knows, though).

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Sure he could be a common thief. But he could also be a common thief that killed Debra Poe as well. He may have been on drugs, tried to rob the store and shot Debra in a panic.

Guilty or not, Megadeth is a witness and he should be found.
Agreed.


I recall reading that a bloodhound had actually traced Debra's scent to the parking lot in front of the store, and that he just stopped there--like maybe she'd been picked up in a car. This is what gets me about the possibility of abduction within the store itself:

1. Convenience stores are very brightly lit within. Everything that goes on can be seen by those who pass by--and apparently, this is a pretty hoppin' place in the early morning hours: Debra's friend dropped by twice, she waited on customers, a woman came in at 3:30 to buy cigarettes. Why take the risk of a passerby noticing something, or a customer walking in? Then again, the Thrill Killer in Sacramento didn't seem to be troubled by that notion at all.

2. That store is not a very big one at all. It's a Circle K, and its approximate address can actually be found on her Charley Project page. I looked it up on Google Earth one day and it's tiny--which is why I wonder if there's even a backroom in there with enough room for an abductor and victim.

3. There were absolutely no signs of struggle. That would possibly support the abducted-in-the-parking-lot scenario.
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It might be possible that Mr. Megadeath had an accomplice if he was indeed part of the crime. He could have had a buddy hiding behind the counter holding a gun to Debra's head telling her not to make a sound when the woman walked in to buy cigarettes at 3:30. That could explain why there was no blood or signs of a struggle in the store and why Megadeath guy looked nervous. You then wait for the coast to be clear, take her in your car and that's that. It's disturbing to think about but it's possible. (Or maybe I've watched too many action movies.)

I still can't wrap my head around there being no surveillance cameras at the store. You'd think all conveniant stores by 1989 would have had them. And this didn't take place in the country in central Iowa either. This happened right outside Orlando, Florida!
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Anyone think this looks like Richard Grieco?

I honestly think this mystery man had to be involved in some form. Why would an innocent person simply feel it necessary to stand behind the counter when he had nothing to do with the disappearance? "Oh, the clerk's not here, I guess I'll do that job". I don't buy it. I would have guessed he might have seen the store unsupervised and decided to rob it (jumping behind the counter to detract suspicion) but nothing was noted as being missing from the store. I think he was involved, somehow overpowered her, and sold cigarettes to the customer to avoid suspicion, then abducted the clerk.
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Anyone else find it odd that Debra's friend came by the store at 3am and then the next time he came by at 3:50am she was gone. Does the friend have something to do with her disappearance? I just can't see why a person would hang out at a convenience store TWICE in the middle of the night for no particular reason. Shouldn't he be sleeping or working?

It likely wasn't him because there was an obvious pattern of convenience store clerks that had gone missing in Florida in a 6 month span, but still it is weird
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Anyone else find it odd that Debra's friend came by the store at 3am and then the next time he came by at 3:50am she was gone. Does the friend have something to do with her disappearance? I just can't see why a person would hang out at a convenience store TWICE in the middle of the night for no particular reason. Shouldn't he be sleeping or working?

It likely wasn't him because there was an obvious pattern of convenience store clerks that had gone missing in Florida in a 6 month span, but still it is weird
Not really. I mean, you and I might not be going to qwk-e-marts at 3am, but that might be perfectly normal for some people, and it's certainly not unusual that someone working the graveyard shift might ask a friend to check in on them. The segment doesn't give any reason to suspect him, and we can presume LE would absolutely have checked him out and cleared him.
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Not really. I mean, you and I might not be going to qwk-e-marts at 3am, but that might be perfectly normal for some people, and it's certainly not unusual that someone working the graveyard shift might ask a friend to check in on them. The segment doesn't give any reason to suspect him, and we can presume LE would absolutely have checked him out and cleared him.
Especially if the individual is in a profession that frequently means late or early hours, and even more especially if that person is self-employed. Debra and her friend were discussing house plans, and the UM portrayal seemed to indicate that he may have been a contractor or architect. Being that he himself came to consult with Debra (coupled with the time), it might be deduced that he answers only to himself. Debra was working two full time jobs in 1990. He might not have had any convenient time to meet with her during the day. There's any number of speculative reasons one can come up with--but for me personally, I don't find his being there odd at all.
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I honestly think this mystery man had to be involved in some form. Why would an innocent person simply feel it necessary to stand behind the counter when he had nothing to do with the disappearance? "Oh, the clerk's not here, I guess I'll do that job". I don't buy it.
I agree. Most likely he is the murderer.
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The Debbie Poe case always intrigued me. When I first moved to Florida in 1992 I would read the Orlando Sentinel daily. Every day in the classifieds section right at the very beginning was a message to Debbie from her parents telling her they still loved her and they would never stop looking for her.

When I got a job at the Orlando Sentinel I ran into a reporter who had been there for years. I mentioned to him over lunch the ad I had seen in the classifieds and he told me he had covered the story when it happened and how her parents spent a lot of money to make sure the ad appeared at the very top of the classifieds every day for 10 years. After 10 years the ads stopped abruptly and have never appeared since. He wasn't sure if they bought a 10 year block of time or her parents passed away and that was why they stopped, but the case always made him sad because he said her parents were good people who wanted to know what happened to their daughter.

He said for a while around the anniversary of her disappearence her parents would take out a bigger ad to draw attention to the fact that she was still missing.
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Just a puzzling case. There are NO answers. There was never any indication of Debra being involved with the wrong people. There were no cameras. There was no evidence of a struggle, nothing. Plus there were no witnesses save for the woman who may or may not have bought cigarettes from Debra's abductor. This is a true case of someone vanishing into thin air without a trace.

Even people like Wendy Camp, Angela Hammond etc. at least had witnesses (and suspects) of their last whereabouts and there is at least a theory that can be broken down. Not so much with Debra
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I however am one that believes that the three cases of the missing women in Florida from the gas stations are NOT connected. The one involving Donna Callahan, she disappeared from a store in Gulf Breeze, Florida, right across the bay from Pensacola in the panhandle of Florida. Pensacola is around 430 miles away from Orlando. Two men were eventually charged and convicted of Donna Callahan's murder and both were sentenced to life in prison. It was not until 6 or 7 years after she disappeared that they were charged. The other woman was in Lake City, Florida which is just under 300 miles east of Pensacola and about 130 miles north of Orlando.

But yeah, I do find it strange that the mystery clerk was just hanging around in there and my guess is that he probably was the murderer. I imagine Debra's friend was investigated as a suspect as by his own admission he was at the gas station less than an hour before she is thought to have disappeared. However I really do not find it all that unusual that he was there even at that time of the night. I used to go visit friends at their places of employment at odd hours too when they worked at Wal-Mart.
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I however am one that believes that the three cases of the missing women in Florida from the gas stations are NOT connected. The one involving Donna Callahan, she disappeared from a store in Gulf Breeze, Florida, right across the bay from Pensacola in the panhandle of Florida. Pensacola is around 430 miles away from Orlando. Two men were eventually charged and convicted of Donna Callahan's murder and both were sentenced to life in prison. It was not until 6 or 7 years after she disappeared that they were charged. The other woman was in Lake City, Florida which is just under 300 miles east of Pensacola and about 130 miles north of Orlando.
Me neither. I'm also of the opinion that the abductions investigators wanted to tie to Angela Hammond's are not connected either.
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Also, I found the killer's names, I had forgot them but here they are. William Wells, now 42 years old and was 22 at the time Donna Callahan disappeared and as it turns out was murdered. Wells can be best described as a career criminal. In fact ironically, at the time of the murder he was actually on probation for burglary and grand theft. He has a felony record stretching back to when he was 20. 4 months after the murder he was arrested again for burglary and grand theft and was then released on bail. He was actually arrested again while out on bail for burglary and grand theft but was released on bail again and remained out on bail until May of 1991 when he was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon and false imprisonment as well as armed robbery. He was later sentenced to 30 years in prison on all of those charges. If you count the murder charge, he has no fewer than 12 felony convictions.

Anyway, I guess while in prison for the 30 year stretch for robbery, Wells decided to try to make himself big on the prison totem pole and was boasting to other inmates about how he killed a gas station clerk in Gulf Breeze and how he had never been charged with it. Well his fellow inmates ended up ratting him out to Santa Rosa County, Sheriff's Detectives to get their own time reduced. Wells was indicted in 1995 on charges of kidnapping and first degree murder. He later pled no contest to the charges in exchange for a life sentence. A condition of the plea deal was that he had to lead investigators to the body. This is William Wells: http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInma...onID=544136792

Meanwhile in 1996, when he let police to Donna Callahan's remains, Wells unleashed a bomb shell. He said that his half brother Mark Riebe had also been involved. Riebe was indicted in 1997. In 1998 he was convicted of first degree murder and was sentenced to life in prison. Riebe has gone back and forth, on some things claiming he is innocent and that his brother Billy Wells is the real and only killer and that his brother lied about his (Riebe's) involvement to save himself from a death sentence. Interestingly, before his 1997 arrest when he was 36 years old, Riebe had had no major run ins with the law and no felony convictions. Riebe though has sometimes claimed that he is a serial killer, he says this to other inmates I guess, because he has at times claimed that he killed 3, 4, 5 other women and then other times it turns into 13, 14, 15 other women. However when the cops confront him, he either denies he is a killer at all or he claims he is responsible for every unsolved case so they do not know what to think of him.

However the reason I bring this is up is among the people that Riebe is suspected of killing? None other than Pamela June Ray. In fact Riebe has confessed to at least three homicides including Ray's however in each instance while he revealed things in the three cases that took place in 1986, 1990 and 1992, that were not revealed to the general public, when he is confronted hard on it he has always recanted the statements and shifted the blame to his brother Billy Wells. Anyway, this is what Mark Riebe looks like.http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInma...onID=544136811

This is an article about what he said about the cases: http://www.newsherald.com/news/riebe...tors-case.html
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